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Two days ago (28 October), FBI Director, James B. Comey, sent a letter to the US Congress disclosing that  the Bureau was investigating newly-discovered emails from disgraced former US Congressman, Anthony Weiner.

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The new  material  “appeared relevant” to the Hillary Clinton private-server/email case, according to Comey. In an explanatory email to FBI employees, Comey wrote;

“This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation.  Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case.  Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.

Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.  At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression.  In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.”

The political version of an atomic-bombshell came eleven days before the US Presidential Election (early voting in several states notwithstanding) on 8 November.

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Interestingly, Comey himself admitted;

“Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations…”

Comey tried to justify his disclosure to Congress;

“I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record…”

But in his rambling note, he then revealed;

“…however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails…”

And then pointed out the blindingly obvious;

“I don’t want to create a misleading impression…”

Director Comey had already created “a misleading impression“. By publicly announcing the “re-opening” of the investigation and referencing a “connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation“, irreparable damage had been done to Clinton’s campaign and Trump’s presidential chances suddenly took on new life.

As former Attorney General, Eric Holder, pointed out;

“Justice Department officials are instructed to refrain from commenting publicly on the existence, let alone the substance, of pending investigative matters, except in exceptional circumstances and with explicit approval from the Department of Justice officials responsible for ultimate supervision of the matter,” the letter says. 

They are also instructed to exercise heightened restraint near the time of a primary or general election because, as official guidance from the Department instructs, public comment on a pending investigative matter may affect the electoral process and create the appearance of political interference in the fair administration of justice.”

Current US Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, also opposed Comey’s decision to formally write to Congress;

Lynch expressed her preference that Comey follow the department’s longstanding practice of not commenting on ongoing investigations, and not taking any action that could influence the outcome of an election, but he said that he felt compelled to do otherwise.

The response from both Republicans and Democrats has been unrestrained anger. Senate minority leader Harry Reid  was unequivocal in condemning Comey’s behaviour;

“Your actions in recent months have demonstrated a disturbing double standard for the treatment of sensitive information, with what appears to be a clear intent to aid one political party over another.

My office has determined that these actions may violate the Hatch Act, which bars FBI officials from using their official authority to influence an election. Through your partisan action, you may have broken the law.”

What is even more startling is that at the time that Comey made his disclosure to Congress (28 October), it was not until two days later that the FBI  obtained a warrant to actually look at the emails on Weiner’s computer.

So on what basis did Comey feel the need to advise Congress?

When Comey sent that letter, he had no way of knowing what the emails contained. For all he knew, they could have been recipes for apple pie.

In which case, Comey has single-handedly interfered in an election process by using the power of his position.

Which would be an abuse of power.

Which would be a situation that we here in New Zealand would be intimately familiar with;

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As the NBR reported over this incident in November 2014;

Security Intelligence Service director Rebecca Kitteridge has made a formal apology to former Labour leader Phil Goff for the way in which the SIS released “incomplete, misleading and inaccurate information” in response to an OIA request from Whale Oil Blogger Cameron Slater.

In 2011 Mr Goff said he hadn’t been briefed about alleged Israel spies being caught in the Christchurch earthquake earlier that year, a contention Prime Minister John Key and then-SIS director Warren Tucker disputed.

Dr Tucker’s briefing notes were declassified, then swiftly released to Mr Slater after he requested them under the Official Information Act.

The notes appeared to confirm Mr Goff had been briefed on the matter but Ms Gwyn’s investigation has established this was not the case.

The apology to Mr Goff is one of the recommendations in the report of inspector-general of intelligence and security Cheryl Gwyn, which stated “These errors resulted in the misplaced criticism of the then leader of the Opposition, Phil Goff. Phil Goff is owed a formal apology by the Service.”

Although Ms Gwyn found no evidence of political partisanship by the SIS, its actions did have a politically partisan effect and she found the agency had failed to take adequate steps to maintain political neutrality.

The NZ Herald reported;

Prime Minister John Key is “in denial” over a report which backs Dirty Politics allegations his staff used information from the SIS to orchestrate a smear campaign against former Labour leader Phil Goff, the Opposition says.

Inspector General of Security Intelligence Cheryl Gwyn’s report yesterday found primarily that former SIS director Warren Tucker was at fault for supplying “misleading” information about Mr Goff to the Prime Minister during a 2011 war of words between the pair.

Mr Goff claimed he had not been briefed by Dr Tucker about suspected Israeli agents in Christchurch at the time of the earthquakes earlier that year. However, based on the information supplied by Dr Tucker, Mr Key said he had been briefed.

The report found Mr Key’s former senior communications adviser Jason Ede helped attack blogger Cameron Slater obtain that misleading information from the SIS which Slater then used to embarrass Mr Goff in blog posts.

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Ms Gwyn’s report said the information supplied by Dr Tucker about the briefing was “incomplete, inaccurate and misleading” and “resulted in misplaced criticism” of Mr Goff. It also found that after learning of the information, Mr Key’s deputy chief of staff and primary point of contact with the SIS, Phil de Joux, suggested to Mr Ede the information “might prompt an OIA request”.

Mr Ede then gave that information to Slater, discussed how an Official Information Act request should be worded, and provided Slater with draft blog posts attacking Mr Goff.

Ms Gwyn’s inquiry found Mr Ede was on the phone to Slater when Slater emailed his OIA request to the SIS.

Patrick Gower from TV3 was his usual ‘delicate’ self when he expressed his assessment of the politicisation of the NZSIS  by the National government;

3 News understands the spy agency and Prime Minister John Key’s office were found to be in cahoots with Slater to get the information out.

It was sensitive information that embarrassed Mr Goff, pertaining to the issue of supposed Israeli spies Mr Goff said he didn’t know about, though he had been briefed about it.

The report deals with how the information got out, and that is through former SIS director Warren Tucker. Mr Tucker is found have been unfair and politically partisan in the way he dealt with the Prime Minister’s office to get it out, according to 3 News’ understanding of the report.

Then-head of the SIS, Warren Tucker, used his position to embarrass the Leader of the  the Labour Party, just months out from the 2011 General Election. It was done with the full knowledge of members of John Key’s staff. Our esteemed Dear Leader was probably fully aware of the plot.

No wonder the Comey Affair seemed so hauntingly familiar when news of it broke.

Because FBI Director Comey has his own political affiliations;

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Even though he has been a registered Republican for most of his adult life, FBI Director James Comey testified Thursday that he is no longer a registered member of the GOP.

“Although our politics are different — I gather you’re a Republican — that correct?” Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) asked Comey in prefacing his remarks.

Comey responded, “I have been a registered Republican for most of my adult life, not registered any longer.”

The FBI director, who previously served as deputy attorney general in George W. Bush’s administration before President Barack Obama appointed him to his current position, donated to the presidential campaigns of John McCain in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012.

Mr Comey – meet Mr Warren Tucker.

You two would appear to have a bit in common.

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References

Washington Post: Read the letter Comey sent to FBI employees explaining his controversial decision on the Clinton email investigation

Wikipedia: Anthony Weiner

Politico:  Polls show battleground map tightening

The Hill: Holder, ex-Justice officials question Comey’s ‘breach of protocol’

The New Yorker: James Comey Broke with Loretta Lynch and Justice Department Tradition

The Guardian: Clinton emails inquiry – FBI gets warrant as Comey told he may have broken law

NBR: SIS report equals egg all over Key’s face – Goff

NZ Herald: Dirty Politics – John Key ‘in denial’ over SIS report

TV3: SIS to say sorry for Whale Oil OIA release

Politico: FBI director says he’s no longer a registered Republican

Additional

Radio NZ: Phil Goff receives apology from SIS over release of information to Whaleoil

Other Blogs

The Standard:  Timeline – Key responsible for SIS release

Wheeler’s Corner: SIS Forced to Apologise to Phil Goff says leaked report

The Pundit: John Key – The buck doesn’t stop with me

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110 COMMENTS

  1. Interesting stuff, Frank.

    I like the way you’ve juxtaposed what took place here in NZ and what’s going on in the good ole US of A.

    And irony of ironies, both instances involve multi-millionaires. One a current PM, the other an aspiring President. Coincidence?

    You do realise you may’ve generated a whole new Conspiracy? I look forward to Infowars doing a number on this. Oh wait, they’re hard right conspiracy nutters……

    • Theodore;

      “I look forward to Infowars doing a number on this. Oh wait, they’re hard right conspiracy nutters……”

      Whether you are joking or not,here it is.

      As close to reality as you will get from any other pundit.
      Liberty Seeking Constitutionalist tracking the Elite for 20yrs to their End Game.

      View the three videos to understand the scope of his contacts and sources.

      http://www.infowars.com/election-fraud-smokescreen-by-new-fbi-investigation-special-report/

      With the breaking of the latest news below, we really are living in historic times.
      The Counter Coup has begun. All the players have been informed.
      This is not ‘conspiracy’ or alarmism.

      This group is feeding Julian Assange of Wikileaks.

      http://www.infowars.com/internal-coup-against-hillary-clinton-has-begun-red-alert/

      With things moving so fast now folks, those who wish to witness the unraveling
      of events should now visit Infowars on a daily basis until it all plays out.

      Monday’s Show with discussion of Franks subject matter,but more importantly,
      Also, election expert Bev Harris explains the latest on voter fraud and how the public can help maintain integrity. The science of the rigged computers. Recent.

      “Hillary Plans To Rig Election Leaked”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFxSuV3ACJs

      Dr Steve Pieczenik will be interviewed on show Wednesday 2nd Nov. (3rd nz)
      http://stevepieczenik.com/america-thanks-brave-fbi-agents-ic-and-local-police/
      http://stevepieczenik.com/

      I prefer UK arm Prison Planet for layout and easy access archives.
      http://www.prisonplanet.com/

      Cheers.

      • Story of the Century?

        “Evil Happens when Good Men stand by and do Nothing.”

        Dr Steve Pieczenik interview of 2nd Nov 2016. 33mins.
        http://www.infowars.com/delta-force-creator-reveals-coup-against-hillary/

        “Full Show-History Happening! US Intel Battles Globalist Takeover.”
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSakq1JNmQ8

        Alex Jones Channel.
        https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

        https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel/videos?sort=dd&
        shelf_id=1&view=0

        Well,Good Men have stepped Forward. Hopefully for a Soft Coup.
        2nd American Revolution?

        Let our spirit go with them world wide.

        Cheers.

        Watch for False Flag?

        • I could kick myself. Took my eye off the ball by not going through my authors. This broke 28th Oct.

          After going through the links I have posted it is quite clear Dr Steve Pieczenik is probably the head organizer of this coup/group.

          After all, this used to be his job,working for Gvt in the past.
          See his about/bio.

          So instead of waiting for his interviews on Infowars/Prison Planet, it becomes clear when seeing it all in writing alongside what the law actually says, and his analysis.

          If you are an english/law man and you like spy and intrigue. This should be right up your ally.

          This is the man we go to to keep up to date. Logically it will be the most accurate.

          The new ‘Tip of the Spear.’ From the start 28th Oct.

          http://www.stevepieczenik.com/clintons-coup-in-broad-daylight/

          http://www.stevepieczenik.com/clinton-coup-vs-info-counter-coup/

          The rest I have posted. Now we can keep up. There is interesting stuff in his archives.

          http://www.stevepieczenik.com/

          Cheers.

          • Iain, I’ve had a look at Mr Pieczenik’s website and it is a hodge-podge of bizarre conspiracy theories such as “9/11 truthers” (http://www.stevepieczenik.com/911-truth-doc-architects-and-engineers/); UFOs (http://www.stevepieczenik.com/tag/ufo-truth/); ,the Sandy Hook school massacre conspiracy (http://www.stevepieczenik.com/50m-brand-new-sandy-hook-school/) and others.

            As such, it is worthless and Mr Mr Pieczenik’s comments are little more than smears from the Republican/Trump campaign.

            If this is the “evidence”, I counter with Brothers Grimm fairy tales.

            The more such commentary is presented from the Right, the more convinced I am that this tells us more of the sources than the content itself.

                • Iain , I would be more inclined to consider your evidence if you had any. But linking to far-right Amrican hate-blogs is about as credible as… well… linking to Whaleoil.

                  You can imagine the response you’d get if you tried using local far-right blogs as “credible” sources.

                  So far all we’ve had from you, Andy, et al, is rumour; unsubstantiated allegations; and stuff which seems to emanate mostly from the Republican camp.

                  You need to do better to convince us.

                  As far as I’m aware, only one Presidential candidate is due to appear in Court in the near future; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit

                  Of course, he’s innocent until proven guilty, right?

                  • Frank,

                    Just what is going on with this site
                    when I get a full page notice saying
                    my access has been limited?

                    Just when I was about to answer
                    your 11.45 pm reply.
                    Maybe you can help.

                    And there is the other issue.

                    I finally got to answer your Nov 5
                    reply after a bloody weekend of
                    visitors, I posted at 10pm on the
                    6th and yet your reply now went
                    up at 11.45pm.

                    Have you not seen it yet?
                    Has it been disallowed?
                    I was genuinely concerned for you.

                    I will wait for tomorrow to repost
                    but while we are here now your
                    reply;

                    This is exactly what I talked about
                    in the reply you may not have
                    seen?

                    And don’t try and lump me in with
                    this “Andy et al is rumour” stuff with me.
                    I usually substantiate all my major
                    posts with verified links.

                    This “far-right Amrican hate-blogs is about as credible as… well… linking to Whaleoil.”

                    More than person has picked you up on this,Frank.
                    Trying to conflate two vastly
                    different situations to suit your
                    narrative.

                    Again in my reply that is not up.

                    “You need to do better to convince us.”
                    Just who is us Frank?

                    Again, in my missing reply, you
                    seem to echo MSM rhetoric.

                    Msm is now discredited. Finished.

                    This Guardian article is so full of
                    holes it’s not funny.
                    Frank,if they had anything this big,
                    or any big,it would have been out
                    by now.

                    It is a known tactic to accuse your
                    opponent or enemy of the very
                    same thing that you are doing to
                    occupy that space and confuse public opinion.
                    eg Clinton’s with rape and worse.
                    Russia the aggressor when America is guilty.

                    There is big stuff in the latest
                    Wikileaks dump. Just the subject
                    I tried to warn you about.

                    Latest show that covers this very
                    subject. What Nitrium posted and
                    worse.
                    NYPD were about to hold a press
                    conference that forced Comey,FBI
                    to take over the case.
                    Knowing the players about to be involed it may well be damage
                    control.
                    I know that Jones is not allowed to talk about anything that is not or about to be in the public domain.

                    Full Show – Democratic Party Pedophile/Satanic Network Blown Wide Open By Wikileaks – 11/04/2016
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRr6CTYjPUk

                    Latest Dr Steve Pieczenik.
                    http://www.stevepieczenik.com/us-takeover-may-be-near/

                    Cheers.

                    When my missing post goes up tomorrow feel free to delete this
                    exchange and start again.

                    • There appeared to have been a technical or system related problem last night, I got the same message. I am sure you will blame the Illuminate, right?

                • Good luck Iain, your journey is one of no return, I fear, as I met a few others, who are beyond repair, that is after engaging heavily into conspiracy theory stuff, it is cult like stuff to many, and we know how hard it is to get out of cults.

            • So anyone who questions the official narrative on 9/11 is “worthless”?

              Is that your honest opinion Frank?

              Note that there are now large groups (in their thousands) of scientists, intelligence officers, architects, pilots and others who question the official narrative

              • “large groups (in their thousands) of scientists, intelligence officers, architects, pilots and others ” also vote for the Republican Party in the US; Conservatives in the UK; Lineral-National in Australia, and National Party here in New Zealand.

                Anyway, other professionals have debunked those crazy conspiracy theories; http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

                What is indeed interesting is that Trump has attracted conspiracy theorists to his cause.

                But wouldn’t it be a *hoot* if the wildest conspiracy was that the so-called “rogue candidate” (Trump) was not a rogue at all, but was carefully orchestrated by the Right to appear to be anti-Establishment.

                Is it a coincidence that so many pro-Republican blogs, websites, and groups endorse Trump?

                Join the dots. Then colour in the picture.

                One does not get to be a billionaire by being “anti-Establishment”.

                Just look at our own Dear Leader.

      • Infowars? Prison Planet? Steve Pieczenik??

        Those are all right wing conspiracy websites. (And Pieczenik is a nutcase.)

        Got anything more credible, Iain? Rumour, innuendo, and smears do not make for a very compelling case.

        • Otto;

          This is an excerpt from my missing reply to Frank.

          He is Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, MD, PhD.

          “Dr. Pieczenik is an expert in psychological warfare, political psychology, regime change, intelligence, counterintelligence and covert operations.

          He served four presidents as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr. and was a Senior Policy Planner under president Reagan.
          Dr. Pieczenik worked directly with, and reported directly to, Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker, as well as the respective White Houses.

          To this day he still strongly believes in the integrity of the Office of the Presidency and the Republic, both of which must be bereft of corruption, deception, betrayal, collusion and crony capitalism by any and all parties, including financial, political, medical, pharmaceutical and academic special interests.

          His basic belief is that no one person is indispensable to the viability of State.”
          More;
          http://www.stevepieczenik.com/about/

          Interview with highly respected Doug Hagmann

          “Insider: Clintons Caught Conducting Voodoo Marina and Spirit Cooking”
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcoIVyjY0-g

          “NYPD Preparing News Conference to Expose Clinton Sex Crimes”
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf6jP_WfqYM

          Cheers.

          • Ahem.

            Serco is taking entire markets private shifting to a single provider Model. There will be no correction more like trading will stop and Neo-feudalism will start. It’s a disturbing trend but new Zealands wealth and prosperity is dependant on this type of trade.

            Quote: “New Zealand is a trading nation. Our first world life style is supported by a disaggregated global trading system based on free and open trade routes, transfer of information and the free flow of funds. We rely not just on the security of our own trade routes, but the security of every one else’s trade routes, because in effect, they are our trade routes as well.”
            Full speech: http://navalinstitute.com.au/norms-and-standards-a-view-from-nz-navy/

            R Adm Martins speech regarding NZs position is instructive. So one part of spending on intelligence and defence spending is going up and social spending is going down. The same is true in other domains is going down for example legal aid for the poor is being slashed and virtually destroyed but crown security systems is going up so prisons are going way up. Crime it’s self hasn’t changed for 20 years. Incidentally crime rates are not off the spectrum contrary to popular belief.

            There is a side benefit to putting people in jail and in fact under harsher and harsher conditions is a technique of social control for every one else. If some day down the road you decide to run a dictatorship and you want to really harm people like Hittler. Said in another way, you know you are going to carry out policies that are causing people a lot of harm you have to control them some how. There aren’t many ways and every one hits on the same ways engendering fear and hatred making them hate a guy that looks a little different or what ever it may be then you punish those bad guys and woman more horribly and that makes people more frightened. You can see that right around NZ.

            Building up perceptions of crime has a literary herious subtext meaning you are supposed to have criminals with the word brown in front of it. Just like welfare and other supposed rich brown welfare. So criminal means the brown guys coming after you. This has a dual effect of getting of superfluous population, basically unskilled labour which is a close race/class correlation. So demonising people and pointing to demons so every one doesn’t look at what the source is. The drug war is basically for this and has nothing to do with drugs and plenty to do with criminalising unwanted populations and scaring every one else. Harshening conditions scars every one and it’s gone off the charts in recent months in violation of treaty principles and getting much worse.

            Since there are no jobs for ex cons they are going to work in subsidised low wage work and welfare but that pushes wages down a bit because employers have access to this cheap labour. But the scale of this type of worker has on the labour market and construction which is a kind of stimulus but the scale has an effect on high tech industry, you know those guys that rip off the defence budget, they are the guys introducing the high tech gadgets to monitor not just prisoners but winz beneficiaries and all other kinds of beneficiaries across NZ and so on.

            This is another way of transferring public funds to make sure high tech industries continue its reach. It’s not the scale of prisons but it’s going up.

  2. The funniest thing of all this was Donald Trump grinning and saying that thing might not be rigged after all!! LOL!! the little boy was happy all of a sudden because he was allowed to have his toys back!!

  3. It seems to be all about the Clinton Foundation which apparently reaches into every government of the world. The Weiner emails opens up a can of worms which disclose the Foundation as another hidden arm of the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia. All seems to be unraveling as one of today’s blogs states General Dunsford is reported as putting troops on stand by for takeover of Washington as these emails make clear that Congress en masse operates outside the Constitution and most, if not all members, have been bought and paid for. How deep in mud is New Zealand? Interesting times.

  4. It seems to be all about the Clinton Foundation which apparently reaches into every government of the world. The Weiner emails opens up a can of worms which disclose the Foundation as another hidden arm of the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia. All seems to be unraveling as one of today’s blogs states General Dunsford is reported as putting troops on stand by for takeover of Washington as these emails make clear that Congress en masse operates outside the Constitution and most, if not all members, have been bought and paid for. How deep in mud is New Zealand? Interesting times.

    • Wow Helena! You seem to know more than the FBI about the content of the mystery laptop! Did that come from Moscow, or have you been corresponding with Carlos Danger?

      Seriously, this can only be an almighty stuff up or a cynical plan either to cover his backside with his Republican critics or to help “the” Donald.

      Anyone, like you Helena, who weighs in on the actual content of the emails in question is either colossally ignorant, or blindly partisan.

      These two conditions are not mutually exclusive.

  5. “In which case, Comey has single-handedly interfered in an election process by using the power of his position.”

    This is nonsense. Comey promised, under oath, to provide any updates he got on the email situation before Congress. He would have perjured himself had he not done so. Given that there are some 650,000 emails on Weiner’s laptop, this thing is going to take months (if not years) to properly disseminate. If you, as a voter, don’t think you should be told that YOUR Presidential Candidate is CURRENTLY under active FBI investigation and may well end up being impeached if elected, then you’re borderline insane.
    I find it hilarious that Comey was seen as a Democratic stooge just a few months ago when he refused to indict Clinton under blatantly obvious breaches of US law (just watch the press announcement, it’s just painful), but now has been branded a Republican stooge for following protocol and promised he made before congress.

    • So the question is, Nitrium, should he have made that promise in the first place?

      This would not be the first occassion where an FBI Director has held sway over Presidents;

      Hoover habitually used the FBI’s enormous surveillance and information-gathering powers to collect damaging information on politicians throughout the country, and he kept the most scurrilous data under his own personal control. He used his possession of these secret files to maintain himself as the FBI’s director and was apparently able to intimidate even sitting presidents by threatening to leak damaging disclosures about them.

      ref: https://www.britannica.com/biography/J-Edgar-Hoover

      • Kia ora Frank 🙂

        Thanks as always for your contribution to our ongoing and hopefully increasing democratic awareness.

        I’m encouraged by several of the comments here (especially by Helena, Nitrium and Cemetery Jones) which indicate this increase in awareness of the USA situation.

        Comparing Comey with Hoover, while valid prima facie, is not I believe supported by further research. Rare indeed is the state servant powerful enough to be able to threaten both or all parties in a government without seeming to need support from any.

        More apposite is the situation here regarding our dirty politics, where a state servant was party to a smear of one party leader clearly at the behest of the other.

        Of the many (thousands of) clips and pundits I have viewed over several months, I’d pick Judicial Watch, Election Justice USA, Charles Ortel, and shows by/named Redacted Tonight, Sane Progressive, Jimmy Dore, and Styxhexenhammer666 as being those most prepared to offer evenhanded criticism of the two apparently least popular frontrunners ever to contest a US presidential election.

        Trump has several small groups who advocate vociferously for him. Clinton has almost the entire mainstream media working for her (sound familiar?), so effectively that even on TDB and The Standard there have been posts trying to cover up for her.

        James Comey is widely alleged to have tried to cover for her as well. I agree with those allegations and feel sure that he would have got away with it but for Wikileaks.

        Once it became clear that Wikileaks had a great many ‘deleted’ emails and has been releasing them at increasing speed and with increasingly scandalous content, presumably ‘saving the worst for last ‘(just before the election), I reckon James Comey would have calculated that the risk of being proved (any day now) to have covered up for Clinton would exceed the possible risk of joining the long list of those who have thwarted the Clintons, later to die in suspiciously poorly investigated circumstances.

        My take from all the viewing I’ve done is that, in a nutshell, one candidate has committed civil crimes against individuals and the other has committed genocide against peoples. One has no track record as a state ‘servant’, the other has a terrible one.

        • Trump has several small groups who advocate vociferously for him. Clinton has almost the entire mainstream media working for her (sound familiar?), so effectively that even on TDB and The Standard there have been posts trying to cover up for her.

          Oh, I think Trump has done very well out of the mainstream media;

          Donald Trump has gotten the equivalent of nearly $3 billion in free advertising since last May, according to the latest statistics from the firm mediaQuant, blowing away rivals in both parties.

          Trump, who became the presumptive Republican presidential nominee when last rivals Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. John Kasich exited the race, has received the equivalent of more than $2.8 billion in free ads through April. That’s based on media coverage and the equivalent advertising rates.

          By comparison, Cruz, who dropped out on Tuesday, has received the equivalent of about $771 million since last May.

          The numbers are likely to add fuel to critics’ charges that Trump has gotten too much unpaid air time. Cruz in March said the media was “engaged in a love fest” with Trump — before TV host Anderson Cooper said Cruz had declined offers to be on his CNN program.

          The runner-up to Trump in free media is Hillary Clinton, the leader for the Democratic nomination and Trump’s probable opponent in November. Through April, Clinton earned the equivalent of $1.1 billion in free advertising.

          ref: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-has-gotten-nearly-3-billion-in-free-advertising-2016-05-06

          The media and Trump feed of each other in a shark/remora fish relationship. (Though I’m not absolutely certain which is shark and which is remora fish…)

          My take from all the viewing I’ve done is that, in a nutshell, one candidate has committed civil crimes against individuals and the other has committed genocide against peoples

          If you’re referring to the unprovoked, illegal invasion of Iraq, both Trump and Clinton supported that act of aggression. In that respect, neither of them are fit to be President, perpetuating the power of the American Empire.

      • I suspect Comey already knows the emails are thermonuclear for Clinton’s presidency. He doesn’t want to be on the wrong side of the blast radius. Hitherto pro-Clinton CNN and Obama (who has publicly announced he supports Comey’s decision and DOESN’T think it’s a conspiracy to sabotage the election) have both dropped Hillary like a hot potato. She’s utter poison at this point. Even Jill Stein – the Green Party Presidential candidate – prefers Trump, since he’s less likely to start WWIII. Think about that for a second.
        https://twitter.com/ed_hooley/status/789439939540758528
        https://twitter.com/DrJillStein

        • Hi Nitrium,
          if he already knows the content of the emails, they would be inadmissible in any legal process. The information would have been obtained without a search warrant and therefore anything coming from them would have been poison fruit.

          The gee whizz factor of the number of emails is convincing but misleading.

          First, emails are not crimes (yet);

          Second, since they were back-ups of a phone, there could easily be multiple, multiple duplication, and probably are.

          Speculation is easy, but the conclusions are likely to be facile and partisan, as we can see.

          Comey should not have sent the letter, against all protocol, but having foolishly chosen to do so, he should have had the decency to do it in person and make sure there was no doubt in anyone’s mind that there was no new evidence and that no false assumptions should be made.

          He could still hold a press conference and admit his mistake, but he probably will just keep quiet: for many among us sorry is the hardest word.

          And the rest of the world may pay the price.

  6. Unfortunately Loretta Lynch blew any credibility she might have been able to claim about responsibility and process after she got busted having her secret airport tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton while she was supposed to be awaiting Comey’s recommendations on how to proceed with the initial investigation.

    • She didn’t blow her credibility, as you put it, but it is true she made it harder to put a brake on Comey’s arrogant enthusiasms. Remember, normally it isn’t the FBI’s role to decide on prosecutions, that is the role of the Dept of Justice. And it certainly isn’t the FBI’s job to editorialize on the carelessness or otherwise of officials in extra-prosecutorial contexts, as he chose to do with Hillary in July.

      However, you do know that if the tarmac meeting never took place, an if Lynch did intervene, she would still have been subject to a barrage from the Right. After all, like Comey, she is a political appointment.

      • To that, all I can say is what I said in a similar conversation over at the Standard yesterday:

        I think the New Yorker’s Amy Davidson wrapped it up in a cutesy polka dotted bow when she wrote, “Are the Clintons correct in saying that there is an attack machine geared up to go after them? Of course. But why have they made it so easy?”

    • She didn’t blow her credibility, as you put it, but it is true she made it harder to put a brake on Comey’s arrogant enthusiasms. Remember, normally it isn’t the FBI’s role to decide on prosecutions, that is the role of the Dept of Justice. And it certainly isn’t the FBI’s job to editorialize on the carelessness or otherwise of officials in extra-prosecutorial contexts, as he chose to do with Hillary in July.

      However, you do know that if the tarmac meeting never took place, an if Lynch did intervene, she would still have been subject to a barrage from the Right. After all, like Comey, she is a political appointment.

  7. Nope, I think this is too far fetched, Comey made a mistake in July, making an announcement then, when the FBI should not comment on any investigation while still in process. He made another mistake now, I fear, in poor judgment, thinking he better signal there may be more to come, while he should again have kept his mouth shut.

    No info of substance has been delivered, it all still seems to be under investigation, so perhaps none of these statements should ever have been made, not the one in July, suggesting Hillary may have nothing serious to worry about, and not now, suggesting the opposite again.

    The man needs to be taken out of his job, to do some other work, as he seems unfit for his position.

  8. Innocent until proven guilty, that still applies under the rule of law, so the FBI should say no more than: “We are investigating, no further comments”. Trump is exploiting this for his ends, of course, but even if Hillary has stuff to hide, so does he, re other matters. Those that think this is stuff that serves one before the other, better take a chill out pill and get back to reality. Voters in the US better vote by their conscience and gut feeling, with also a balance of common sense or reason. Whoever ends up in the White House will be a liability for the US population as a whole.

  9. It’s been a long time coming for the Clintons. They are now the subject of three separate investigations.

    I’ll cheer when she’s wearing an orange jumpsuit and leg irons.

    • Yes and so will I when Jonkey is also finally wearing orange jumpsuit and in irons too.

      Why don’t we have such watchdogs as the FBI here and who does that role here to keep Jonkey “honest” which is a physical impossibility.

      • Sadly, if Key were clad in an orange jumpsuit and shackles, you’d just see them on sale at Glassons and Hallensteins the next day.

  10. Clinton 50.5%
    Trump 49.5%

    Just to make it look as though there was an election and that it was a close-run race.

    Voter turnout: 40%? 30%? 20%?

  11. Here’s part of today’s blog from Ben Fulford : http://benjaminfulford.net/
    (I don’t believe everything Fulford says but the gist goes with everything else I’ve read.)
    Members of Congress serve not the United States and its constitution but serve US Inc, owned lock stock and barrel by the Rothschilds as is (was) the IRS, Fed. US Inc Hqs in Puerto Rico is bankrupt and Obama as CEO has been role playing – which the Pres of the Philippines knew only too well when he handed out the “son of a ……” insult and why Obama did not get the red carpet treatment in China. The Clinton Foundation expose would, Fulford says, cause mayhem in America and possibly risk of total civil war – if not invasion from outside countries. The FBI Director knows his life is at risk as well as his immediate and extended family. What to do? Will General Dunford (presently acting President of USA) take charge publicly? I don’t know. Will the elections be suspended on grounds that current Hillary is a body double (maybe clone), war mongerer for the Rothschild banksters, guilty of genocide of millions of people … gee, I sure hope so.

      • What’s more, wikileaks has exposed a multimillion donation by the Russian government to the Clinton Foundation. So it pays not to believe what is being fed to you by left leaning NZ media.

        It’s all coming unstuck for the Clintons – they were bound to run out of rope eventually. Even if the Democrats do manage to manipulate the election to get her elected, it won’t be long before she’s impeached.

        Even the Democrat leaning Chicago Tribune is calling for her to withdraw:

        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-emails-kass-1030-20161028-column.html

      • Really, “Establishment controlled website”, is it?

        I wonder what “establishment” you refer to? This does not look like it serves the interests of some who may see themselves as having axes to grind, who may perhaps want their preferred kind of “establishment” a Mr Trump would look after, once President of US Inc..

        http://www.motherjones.com/topics/investigations

        • Mike in Auckland;

          Just one look at the front page should tell you they have bias.

          Now the MSM is totally discredited and with the shift to the Internet,
          there are plenty of Alt Media posing as ‘truthers’.

          Acting like a shill. ie 95% of what they say may be correct but that
          crucial 5% hides Real and Huge Truths we never get to see.

          When a site does not have a search facility to check certain
          themes/subjects, to me,it makes them dubious,regardless of what
          nice words they might say in their ‘about column.’
          Apart from the vast number of authors nobody has heard about.

          Try Infowars,which apart from the Drudge Report,is now the biggest
          Alt Media on the Planet.Then Breitbart and the Daily Caller.
          Maybe WND.com I think I gave you a list awhile back.

          Note that those sites listed above are the very sites Hillary has
          stated she wants to shut down.
          You should need no more evidence than that.

          Cheers.

          See my posts at top. With the Events about to unravel you should
          not be on anything else.
          Clean up with GlobalResearch.ca at a later date.

  12. You’ve got to wonder about your argument when you need to use Eric Holder’s idea of ethics to support it.

    • well, spiked boy, it looks like Comey has egg on his face. The FBI have found nothing new in any of Clinton’s emails.

      do you think an apology is called for in this case?

      especially when, irony of ironies, it is Trump that is currently facing court cases, not Clinton!!

  13. At least the FBI had a warrant. Unlike Hagar who had stolen emails.
    Hypocrites the lot of the dirty left.
    Hows it feel to be on the other side now?

    • Jack Attack, I note.

      What has the FBI and a warrant to do with investigative journalism, done with expertise, while able to source emails from a person who happens to have had abilities to get info that was useful for the public good. When so-called “stolen” emails are obtained by another person, who writes a book about dirty tactics and worse, by those reaching up into the office of the PM, then this is in the public interest, for the public to get informed.

      That overrules any concerns with the source, my friend, we also have a whistleblower provision in law, for government employees, which the Ombudsman also supports, so using material that would otherwise not be allowed to be shared, to serve the wider public interest and the maintenance of law and justice, that is LEGAL!

      But you just love to have a police state, where any dissent is shut down from the start, right?

    • Thank you Helena, Nitrium and George Hendry. Sorry Frank, but for the first time I disagree with you. I see no excuse for giving Hillary the benefit of any doubt. There is no doubt…. The Clintons are rotten to the core. Both of them.
      Sure the Republicans have got what they deserve, but that is no reason to support the Clintons.

      • I see no excuse for giving Hillary the benefit of any doubt… Sure the Republicans have got what they deserve, but that is no reason to support the Clintons.

        Actually, Garibaldi, that was not the point of my blogpost.

        The point was whether or not we are prepared to tolerate heads of governmental agencies such as the SIS and FBI interfering in the electoral process. Remember that the FBI don’t even know what is in the emails.

        Comey himself warned, “I don’t want to create a misleading impression…” – which he certainly has.

        If events such as Tucker’s and Comey’s involvement are to be normalised because it happens to suit our personal viewpoints, then we have embarked down a very dangerous road.

        As for “supporting the Clintons”, please refer to my November 1, 2016 at 7:32 pm post.

        • I was going to support Churchill against, the Nazis, but then I read some emails from someone which suggested he not only drank a great deal, but also had had some homosexual experiences.

          Signed
          The Man in the High Castle.

          (Look it up)

          • So you suggest Hitler was more credible and ethical, as he did not drink and had no homosexual tendencies?

        • Thanks, Garibaldi 🙂

          To refer again, Frank, to the main point of your post, that elections should not be influenced by spy agencies, in principle I fully agree. However I would argue that, when presidential candidates flout the law of their country as egregiously as these have done, the state agencies tasked with addressing their crimes would undoubtedly influence the election just as much by refusing to take action or comment publicly.

          I watched hours of questioning of Mr Comey and Ms Lynch by the senate investigating committee about the private server affair. Though questioners often referred to the relevant law, or quoted it, pointing out that breaking it required no evidence of intent to do so, Comey and Lynch would every so often reply to the effect that evidence of intent did matter, that they could find none and that therefore they couldn’t recommend indictment.

          It was glaringly obvious to me that Comey and Lynch were not there to inform, but to obfuscate – and they did it brilliantly.

          Comey tried – oh, how he tried ! – to get Clinton off the hook. And, but for relentless wikileaking, I think he would have succeeded. And had he done so, he would indisputably have influenced the election. Either way it seems impossible for him not to have.

          In case you were wondering, the purpose of giving Trump all the free airtime was to try to ensure his nomination. Please note that media coverage largely favoured him before he was nominated and turned against him afterwards. Bill Clinton himself encouraged Trump to stand, because he wanted the most flawed Republican candidate he knew chosen to run against his deeply flawed wife, in order to maximise her chances.

          Thanks as always Frank for your list of references/sources,of which the US examples happen to be largely on the list alleged to be under Clinton control. Along with the posts already cited I also visited The Young Turks, The Humanist Report, Infowars, MLord and God, AMTV, The Colbert Report, SGT Report, the Next News Network, Victurus Libertas, Tim Black, H A Goodman, Economic News, Michael Trimm, William Mount, RT America, The Daily Show, Democracy Now, Project Clarity, the Still Report, Going Underground, and several others, some of them several hundred times for crosschecking. Not until I had seen a report on about four different sites did I decide it was valid.

          In my view the Wikileaks have had far more public influence than the spy agencies. Why most of it has fallen on Clinton may be due to her having done so much more, or because Julian Assange resents the leading role she has played in keeping him stuck in the Ecuadorian embassy for so long.

    • “However, no official had a warrant to segue from the Weiner investigation to the Clinton one — although the investigators agreed those emails could be potentially relevant.”

      He had a warrant for the initial investigation, but he did NOT have a warrant to connect the case to Weiner’s, which is the focal point of this article. Stay on target, Jack.

      http://www.salon.com/2016/10/31/james-comeys-letter-about-hillary-clintons-email-exposed-a-rift-in-the-fbi/

  14. I think you will find that most thinking people on the left welcome the transparency that these emails bring. Many of us do not subscribe to the lesser evil theory of voting since the direction is the same only a little slower.
    Hillary has blood on her hands in Libia and Nicaragua and is a cheerleader for more blood in Syria. We know which way she faces and its not pleasant. So people like Frank and Chris Trotter standing up for Hillary do not speak for all on the left.
    I would also add that at least part of the reason for the FBI continuing their investigation of Hillary is the pressure being exerted by the continual dumping of emails by wikileaks. By Jacks definition above these are also “stolen ” emails. And this type of theft is to be welcomed since all such emails regarding officiall government business should be accessable and made available

    • I wouldn’t be so angry at the email leaks if they happened a year or two ago. And, ideally if there were similar disclosures on the other side.

      Someone doing that might claim to have been working in the public interest and with enough time to sort the wheat from the chaff.

      It might have hurt the free exchange of ideas and sent us back to a face-to-face discussion environment, but it might be argued that was a price worth paying, maybe.

      That is not what we are dealing with here.

      If you support the way these emails have been leaked, you have no business being within a bull’s roar of political power. Your instinct to embrace dishonest assertion, unfair distortion, and untested, context-free partisan disclosure show an unhealthy belief that the ends justify the means – ends chosen by a little band of cognoscenti like yourselves – that I hoped we left behind with Stalin and Mao.

      Fortunately you are likely to remain an embarrassing fringe.

  15. According to one report Comey broke under pressure: it is said that FBI staff refused to return his greetings and looked away if he approached; it is said that he was under pressure from a mass of resignations and threats of resignation from staff who were utterly disgusted by his failure to act on the clear evidence of wrong-doing by Clinton and others in the Clinton gang. And that he could see the writing on the wall: Clinton is so corrupt that remaining as one of her protectors could lead to Comey ending up living the life of a fugitive, if not behind bars.

    Of course all that is all hearsay, and none of us in NZ knows what is really happening or why because the truth is the first victim in any war, and we are fed whatever line particular organisations in America and elsewhere want us to be fed in the war the 0.1% is engaged in on the general populace.

    You only need read any NZ ‘newspaper’ or listen to the ‘news’ to recognise that most of what is promulgated as ‘news and commentary’ is either propaganda or is utter garbage, intended to deceive and distract.

    One thing that has surprised me is that the Dow has been allowed to continue to fall towards 18,000 in the lead up to ‘the election’. The entire edifice of the western oligarchy’s rule is founded on maintaining confidence that is based on the myth that the self-serving liars who are in control know what they are doing with respect to the economy and markets and can maintain ‘growth’.

    America is going down; everyone with a brain knows that. And the rate of decline will accelerate whoever becomes president, so it best view the whole election as a puppet show…..for amusement purposes if you happen to be amused by such things.

    And contrary to the assertions of some, I do not believe America will start nuclear war with Russia rather than fade into irrelevance quietly. Although maniacs like Clinton may believe in the omnipotence of the American military, there are still enough sane people in the Pentagon to point out that America will lose any major war it engages in, and that no one survives nuclear war. I see it all the saber-rattling as posturing in a futile attempt to maintain yet another myth.

    American politics is now tedious and irrelevant because it has been corrupt for decades and is now completely detached from reality, just as NZ politics is now utterly corrupt and completely detached from reality.

    Here is something FAR MORE IMPORTANT than whether Clinton or Trump becomes president or whether either of them ends up in jail:

    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/

  16. Since when did a bloated parasite billionaire , with delusions of entitlement over women’s bodies, come to be the “darling” of some on the Left?

    We might as well be supporting Key. Same bloat and sense of entitlement (remember ponytail-pulling??). Just less money than Trump. Both parasites on the system.

    Frank’s raised a valid point reminding us how State security apparatuses can influence elections. Is that what we’re really wanting??

  17. Sorry, Frank. I seldom disagree with your posts, but I think this is wrong:

    “So on what basis did Comey feel the need to advise Congress?

    When Comey sent that letter, he had no way of knowing what the emails contained. For all he knew, they could have been recipes for apple pie.”

    Here’s my take on what is likely to have happened:

    Comey is the boss. Someone who works for him discovered a cache of over half a million emails on a computer, knowing full well that those emails most definitely should not have been there.

    Do you think for one moment that the discoverer of the illegal cache did not run his/her eye over the cache to get a feel for the contents of those emails before reporting what he/she had found to the boss?

    Having discovered stuff there that would blast the Clinton campaign out of the water, he/she might then have reported to Comey, including his or her “feel” for what the contents of the cache contained.

    It is naive to assume that Comey had no inkling whatsoever of the general contents of the cache before reporting it to Congress.

    In my view Comey MOST DEFINITELY did the right thing. The people should not be voting from a position of ignorance.

    • And just to comment briefly on the notion of “Innocent until proven guilty”. Well, no doubt, that is totally appropriate in general, as far as the “law of the land” is concerned. But I’m not so sure that it should apply to someone who might be on the verge of being voted into the office of “Commander in Chief of the Western World” and all that this currently stands for. Especially when there is a “past record” to be considered.

      Perhaps we should not ALL be regarded as “born equal in the eyes of the law”?

      Complicated!

  18. Michelle Obama has just deleted the last three years of tweets

    I imagine that there will be a lot of deletions of Tweets, facebook posts and blog articles as the true nature of the corruption becomes apparent to the wider public

    • When riightwing neo-liberals like Andy/Andrew support a racist misogynist like Trump, what does that tell us?

      Nice juxtapositioning there, Frank. The Republicans are up to their ears with their usual smears and dirty tricks and a few of our comrades seem to have fallen for it.

    • Where is your evidence that the Obamas are corrupt? They may have given in to the powers of Wall Street, the Pentagon and corporates, but giving in to formidable pressures does not necessarily mean they are corrupt.

  19. Just curious Nick but were you this incensed by Nicky Hagars book release last election? Keys dirty tricks are just party games compared to Hillary. Also, exposing Hillary for what she is does not mean endorsing Trump. Your anger at emails is easy from your safe secure spot of nz. Try viewing things from the horror of Libya and the tragedy of Honduras. The brutality unleashed in these places is directly attributable to Hillary. These are the ends and the emails show the means i.e the money. To these people Trump is irrelevant and nobody has died over the emails so I’m not sure where Stalin and Mao come in? Plenty people have died in Honduras and Libya however. Check out the very sad story of Berta Cáceres. Just one of many sad stories of people that you could get angry about rather than emails.

    • Thanks Spikeyboy 🙂

      Agreed, that story looks all too familiar from following what Clinton has brought about elsewhere.

      A consistent minority (of ‘paid trolls’ ?) has for some years continued to point out that entities like Nicky Hager (surname, as in this thread, often misspelt) and Wikileaks can safely be disregarded because they committed the crime of stealing the private emails (‘intellectual property’?) of the people they expose.

      I’ve seen rare examples, the most recent by Donna Brazile, of an exposed person trying to make the conversation about ’email theft’ rather than the content of the emails. I recall only two instances of someone alleging that email dumps include falsified ones among the genuine, along with a wide consensus that however the emails may arrive is justified when balanced against what they reveal.

    • Spiikeyboy, I’m not sure why you’re attempting to conflate Nicky Hager with Hillary Clinton. Unless you’re trying to somehow muddy the waters?

      Hillary Clinton hasn’t been charged with anything so your vendetta against her is opinion, nothing more.

      As for the Middle East, don’t forget that Trump also supported the US invasion of that country. So they’re BOTH war-mongers.

      • Hi Pris. Nickys great contribution as always is to shine light into the darker areas of power and control. The emails he obtained made it very difficult for Key et al to deny what they were doing. Here as with Clinton no one was being charged. It is disingenuous to suggest that no one knows what is in Clintons emails. We have wikileaks after all and plenty of analysis of where the paper trail is leading if you care to look. Wikileaks performs a similar function on a global scale to what Nicky does for nz. The FBI was quite happy to sweep this whole saga under the table but it is becoming harder as wikileaks divulges more information. Only the FBI and Clintons know the full extent of what could potentially be released. I guess they have their fingers crossed that wikileaks doesn’t have everything but they are obviosly worried

        • Here as with Clinton no one was being charged. It is disingenuous to suggest that no one knows what is in Clintons emails.

          Perhaps Clinton is not being charged because so far all we have is emails unread by the FBI (which Comey admitted to) and a smear campaign run from far-right hate-blogs like “Infowars”.

          When “Whaleoil” tried the same tactic, very few posting here on TDB would use him as a credible source.

          So not sure why you think “Infowars” should be treated any differently.

  20. I think Comey will be seen as a United States hero when this washes out. He was under enormous pressure NOT to persue Clinton but has finally done all he can (within the law) to try and stop what in effect is a coup by the wider Clinton organisation.

    The levels of corruption are beyond belief. It is in the emails. It will come out and she will be convicted along with Bill Clinton and many others.

    There is a revolt within many state organsations in the USA – the FBI was in turmoil. Comey was dead in the water there – now he has joined with those fighting for justice, along with many others spread right through Washington.

    • “I think Comey will be seen as a United States hero when this washes out. ”

      What about Warren Tucker, Steve? Is he your hero as well? Don’t forget he successfully undermined Phil Goff’s election chances with his lies.

      How does that pan out for you when security intelligence chiefs can so blatantly influence an election??

  21. If empathy doesnt work for you Nick then lets take a little look at your thought experiment above. An election between Hitler and Churchill you say? I assume that you equate Trump with Hitler but Hillary as Churchill?? Only “an embarassing fringe” would assert such a thing. If you are allowed to go to such hyperbole then please allow me to choose Stalin or Mao for Hillary. In this election how do you choose the lesser evil? And it would certainly take a little more than emails of a few too many drinks to sway voters one way or the other.

  22. No matter what argument is put up the fact remains that hitherto three powers run all world governments (except Russia/China where their agents are entrenched): The Vatican, The City of London and Washington DC. Putin threw the Rothschild money changers out of the temple and stomped down on the Zionists and Russia has been dedicated to Mother Mary with the Church now in high political standing. These ‘elite’ 3 also control the TPPA and other so-called free trade agreements. Our government is controlled and run offshore. jonkey obeys orders and takes his money. The 3 own, control and thru their lackeys here run all spying outfits in NZ and our police are in place to carry out the orders of the 3. We are ‘educated’ to believe what is taught, do our duty, believe the media fairy-tale spinners blah blah blah. Trump and Clinton both work for the 3. Clinton is by far the most dangerous and if elected, it is said, will have no hesitation in declaring war on Russia believing that Rothschild hidden forces inside China will support and that between the US and China they will carve up the world into “his and hers” using various weapons such as Harp and weaponized satellites and more ground troops to speed up depopulation. Only problem is Russia/China now aligned and members of SEATO fast moving in direction of AIIB. Its all about the money!!! Wars are money spinners and the added bonus for the 3 is depopulation. Remember the Georgia Guidestones. That poor fellow didn’t carve those words in stone for fun. Bill Gates didn’t make his TED statement in 2010 for fun. He was under orders from the Bilderberg.
    Our spy agencies are controlled by other spy agencies and our government works in an Illuminati Beehive. Illuminati truth in plain sight.
    New Zealanders are not free sovereign people nor is New Zealand a free and democratic land.
    Anyone for a quiet revolution? Enough is enough.
    Thank God that these emails are on all the players’ private servers – not secure. The Russians have copies. Kim Dotcom also has copies. Assange has copies. I don’t think the Chinese care.
    Finally, how can there be an election when US Inc is bankrupt and is no longer in power? There is no legal government, there is no lawful law, and can’t be until General Dunford steps up to the plate to declare the return of the Republic of the United States of America.

  23. No matter what argument is put up the fact remains that hitherto three powers run all world governments (except Russia/China where their agents are entrenched): The Vatican, The City of London and Washington DC. Putin threw the Rothschild money changers out of the temple and stomped down on the Zionists and Russia has been dedicated to Mother Mary with the Church now in high political standing. These ‘elite’ 3 also control the TPPA and other so-called free trade agreements. Our government is controlled and run offshore. jonkey obeys orders and takes his money. The 3 own, control and thru their lackeys here run all spying outfits in NZ and our police are in place to carry out the orders of the 3. We are ‘educated’ to believe what is taught, do our duty, believe the media fairy-tale spinners blah blah blah. Trump and Clinton both work for the 3. Clinton is by far the most dangerous and if elected, it is said, will have no hesitation in declaring war on Russia believing that Rothschild hidden forces inside China will support and that between the US and China they will carve up the world into “his and hers” using various weapons such as Harp and weaponized satellites and more ground troops to speed up depopulation. Only problem is Russia/China now aligned and members of SEATO fast moving in direction of AIIB. Its all about the money!!! Wars are money spinners and the added bonus for the 3 is depopulation. Remember the Georgia Guidestones. That poor fellow didn’t carve those words in stone for fun. Bill Gates didn’t make his TED statement in 2010 for fun. He was under orders from the Bilderberg.
    Our spy agencies are controlled by other spy agencies and our government works in an Illuminati Beehive. Illuminati truth in plain sight.
    New Zealanders are not free sovereign people nor is New Zealand a free and democratic land.
    Anyone for a quiet revolution? Enough is enough.
    Thank God that these emails are on all the players’ private servers – not secure. The Russians have copies. Kim Dotcom also has copies. Assange has copies. I don’t think the Chinese care.
    Finally, how can there be an election when US Inc is bankrupt and is no longer in power? There is no legal government, there is no lawful law, and can’t be until General Dunford steps up to the plate to declare the return of the Republic of the United States of America.

  24. On this topic we are now truly off track and into fantasy-land, with many conspiracy theories and what else there may be in some people’s minds. I cannot believe that some still defend a Donald Trump and consider Clinton to be a greater threat to peace.

    But then we all have our freedom of thoughts, I suppose.

    • John Pilger thinks that Clinton would be the most dangerous US President ever. Jill Stein says Clinton is a greater threat to world peace than Trump

      Meanwhile, the internet has gone completely off the scale today, with the latest Spirit Cooking sex cult stuff from the Podesta emails.

      Meanwhile, the media tell us Trump is the bad guy.

      I really feel like heading to the hills for 2 weeks.

  25. So it looks like COmey and his FBI boys and girls have nothing in any of the new emails?

    more and more I am coming to the conclusion that Clinton is facing a vast right-wing conspiracy against her.

    • Samwise;

      This ploy of ‘Left and Right’ is a tool of the TPTB
      that is used to Divide and Conquer.’ and needs to
      stop. Part of the Paradigm Shift.
      In todays world the battle is between Nation States
      and the Globalists / Oligarchs.

      Cheers.

  26. To Frank and others.

    AltMEDIA TEMPLATE.

    Here is a more extensive list that should cater for most tastes.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/ Most visitors globally. (like information clearinghouse)
    http://www.infowars.com/ This now the biggest Alt.media globally. (election coverage now)
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ UK arm of above. Paul Joseph Watson has huge following. I prefer the layout better with static articles in categories and better access to archives without having to turn off adblock. Also see at glance what subject matter the Alex Jones Show will cover, any important guest interviews.
    Accumulate more sites through articles linked to. You decide.

    http://www.breitbart.com/ Huge global coverage.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/ Also Israel,Texas,California.

    http://dailycaller.com/
    http://www.ukcolumn.org/ Alt. UK perspective.
    http://www.activistpost.com/ Wide range of subjects.

    https://www.rt.com/news/ The other side of the story. Professional. Great shows in Crosstalk and Keiser Report and Sophie&Co.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ To get behind any breaking MSM news within 24-48hrs. What we are not told. Huge data base.
    Note partner websites in left column and stack of 100 rolling videos on right.
    Check all info from above and below.

    Important health site;
    http://www.mercola.com/ Top global independently rated. Search disease on site.
    and http://myeclinik.com/dont-ever-do-this-to-your-precious-child/ Click home top.

    Top authors; Click website name for home.
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/michel-chossudovsky
    http://stevepieczenik.com/
    http://tarpley.net/
    http://journal-neo.org/author/william-engdahl/
    http://www.wnd.com/author/jcorsi/
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/wayne-madsen.html
    http://stonecoldtruth.com/

    Important Geo-political site;
    http://www.voltairenet.org/en Thierry Meyssen from France.
    Plus; https://geopolitics.co/

    Those interested in how the Universe really works.

    Plasma is the 4th state of matter.
    The Sun is a Plasma Discharge.
    Electro-Magnetism is the main driver not Gravity.
    Gravity is an Electro-magnetic phenomenon.
    30yrs+ of observed and scientific data.
    Accepted hypothesis by the World Electrical Engineers Association.

    Read ‘The Electric Sky’ first. Much easier. 4th-5th form Physics.
    http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm
    Then will ready you for the live site with Conferences.
    https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/ I find the picture of the day interesting.

    Local Domestic;
    Now you are ready to sift out the wheat from the chaff with best MSM we have,
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/
    and the independent;
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/index.html

    Finish with some good homegrown Alt.media of our own;
    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.com/
    Example;
    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.com/2011/12/07/christchurch-fletcher-and-zombie-banks-are-john-keys-masters-making-a-mint-out-of-the-christchurch-quake/
    Hat tip to BLAKE.
    And these;
    https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/home-2/
    http://www.laudafinem.com/ – Sabin info here.
    http://www.kiwisfirst.com/
    Hat tip to Hellena.

    Finally; To those who wish to catch up fast before any problems may happen to the net with the UN take over 1st October I recommend to go to;

    https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel
    https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel/videos

    I just use the first line as it includes the Nightly News edits.
    The full show is always there with any interviews edited out previous.
    Remember there is an election on. Probably the most important one in the history of America.

    He will cover his days info in the first 45min. A lot of info can be missed with edits.
    Alex has extensive knowledge of how the world really works and the players in it.
    He was brought up with his father educating him from a really young age about the world. eg.He had read Hitler’s book Mein Kaumph before the age of 10.

    His extended family is littered with CIA operatives or insiders in very high places.
    Just get used that ‘Texas Persona’ because he knows his stuff.
    He knows TPTB/Globalists agenda’s 100% by reading their very own books and documents. Some can be displayed on screen as show progresses.

    For the crash course go to the bottom line where all his documentaries are.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&list=PLFFA6FE0800D92CAD
    At least watch the first four and maybe no.10. (Police State 4;Rise of Fema.)
    Skip his speeches when he was younger and slightly amateurish.
    Record them and pass on to family and friends. At least the first three.

    He’s come a long way in 20ys of his message and now a huge following with Heads of State,Military,Police world wide. The Military is wide awake and not taking orders from Obama anymore.

    His 20yr message is coming to fruition in the very near future now.
    The world has woken up and now we can ALL see it unfolding before our very eyes.

    Cheers.

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