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  1. Does anyone know what happens if Biden wins but doesn’t make it to inauguration ?
    D J S

    1. DJS
      Should be Harris as President in that scenario, with Pelosi as backup if she dies too. When Ford succeeded Nixon they then appointed a new vice-president for the remainder of the term. Hasn’t a dead Republican already been elected this election?
      But really, we’d be looking at street chaos and legal bullshit.

  2. All very true Martyn, but the toxic polarization isn’t just us on social media, it is the media itself, which is hyper partisan and almost exclusively anti trump.
    Our media is no better.
    I watch the commentators with some interest – did you note the twitter boss “endorsing” CNN coverage as balanced?
    Another Democrat circle jerk of self reinforcement.

    Biden headlines gently told us he expected to win, trump headlines screamed trump was calling the election early when he said pretty much the same thing -with his usual exaggeration.

    No wonder the population is polarized and uninformed, and no one could see how well trump polled because no one is actually listening to the other guys.

  3. You think Bernie Sanders could turn Maricopa county blue or flip georgia or win the leafy suburbs that are flipping? I’m yes and no. I think these people mostly college educated would vote anyone but Trump but then I think self interest might rule the day. I don’t think Bernie actually would have got the youth voting, they may have supported him but would they vote ? They didn’t in the primaries they stayed home. It’s sad shit. I wanted Sanders Warren or Yang but hey…. As a kiwi I’m glad the guy who him and his right wing compatriots have a seething hatred of our country due to covid and would want to make life hard for us , appears to have lost.

    1. Kiwis lest not forget that jonkey signed us into the TPPA, with secrecy as to its provisions. This is a major concern as Parliament also has no knowledge of what key signed away.
      Biden will reactivate the TPPA that Trump dumped.

      1. Um.
        No.
        The Labour/green/NZ first government of last term signed the TPPA.
        Are you here to to spread misinformation?

        1. Actually they both negotiated the deal. Although Key’s lot did the bulk of it once the USA became involved. Labour then betrayed its own foundational principles to simply sign it off.

  4. MSM in US serves the same purpose they do here. The are the key that locks voters into supporting one or other flavour of neo liberalism. Thats all there is to it.

  5. Yes the USA has a policy based on WAR.

    NZ needs to remain independent as possible with no excuses for supporting war.

  6. “People saw through the BS and thought fuck it I don’t like that treatment.”

    Yeah “that treatment” couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. A compulsive liar, racist, multiple bankrupt, defaulter on loans, fraudster and thief.

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