Comrades – I get we need tourism to keep parts of the economy alive, but this current threat in Welly highlights the risk of more travel before we have herd immunity – this is the most dangerous time because we risk losing all we’ve sacrificed so Tourism can make a buck!
The first we will know we have contracted the virus from Australia will be when sick people turn up!
What’s the fucking point of the Australian tourist being vaccinated when the vaccination doesn’t stop you from passing the virus along?
Opening the travel bubble up before we are herd immunity vaccinated doesn’t seem like a bright idea now does it?
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It looks like the vaccine the guy had only confers up to 60% protection from the delta variant although being vaccinated may reduce how much virus he sheds, having caught it.
What this current drama is highlighting though is our useless vaccination rate, holes in the border STILL (unvaccinated border workers -still don’t know how many)and shambles for testing stations where contacts can’t get a test.
What has become evident is the trans Tasman bubble has split the country down the middle. Listening to ZB most callers have been supportive of the bubble even after this event. On RNZ the opposite was true with plenty of “I told you so” comments being triumphantly read out by Lisa Owen.
The focus groups must be telling the Blairite that 40+ Aotearoans without penises want the bubble otherwise this wouldn’t have been a starter at all.
As for Wellington enjoy. You told us all to suck it up – let’s see how you feel when the shoe is on the other foot.
The retired teachers and public servants who vote Labour are quite happy to get paid in lockdown while the economy collapses if it improves their own survival chances 0.5%.
Never mind the survival struggle for working people.
Hey wouldn’t it be nice to have more working people vaccinated and less at risk by now. It would make the open shut border debate irrelevant.
I’d hate to see what the back of the queue looks like if we are at the front of it (lowest vax rate in OECD)
Unfortunately vaccination won’t make a fig of difference – it’s only a matter of time before there is a super variant that emerges that is resistant completely to current vaccines – and then back to square one.
That is the issue here until humanity accepts this is a endemic virus we will manage at best there isn’t any hope to normality. In the interim money printing quantitative easing will create hyperinflation that will lead to asset stagflation in most developed economies.
And who benefits most from that……..
People don’t seem to get it. Imagine purple slime (the virus). Now imagine it all over your hands, then your face, then all over your clothes, then the salt seller at the restaurant, the toilet seat, the door handle, the Uber seat, purple slime everywhere…you get it now? Vaccination is one thing, managing the spread is another story altogether.
Not us Frank its the politician elected from all over NZers don’t blame us Wellingtonians.
Eighteen months
‘Wonderful! The tourists are back!’ gasped the Queenstown care propietor just as they slipped the oxygen mask over her face and started the ventilator.
She would have been in a hospital ward but they were all full.
Yes New Zealand vaccination roll out pitiful,last in the OECD despite being told by Arderns labour government we were first?
Lies? Deception?
Many vaccines might not work on the new variants the poor countries should have been vaccinated first.
This is what the ballerina leader of the ACT party wanted and he certainly got what he asked for. This is what the mass debater Hosking wanted and he certainly got what he asked for. Asking for the borders to be open by “leaving it to the market” doesn’t work in life and death situations. The government is guilty of cowering to a right-wing roundtable. As I’ve said before, the economy is no good to you or I if we’re dead!
Well said Bert. Seriously ill or dead people are not profitable for business or the economy, because they are not in a position to spend money! Except in the latter case of course, giving business to the funeral industry!
Great comments Bert, Mike Hoskings is a sad Mass debater & his Dances with the Morons mate, David Seymour is no John Travolta, more like John Revolta? But my words are less complimentary? They are both Right wing Fucknuckles who both moaned like fuck about opening up the Borders to Travel & then got what they wanted but now that it’s all turning to shit, they hypocritically put the boot into Jacinda & Labour for this Covid disaster they called for? Now listen to the bleating & moaning by these two arseholes when their open borders mantra has blown up in their faces like a iED? Do they admit they got it wrong? No way in hell, Hoskings & Seymour just double down with their bullshit & blame the Govt again like the arrogant fuckwits they are! Pathetic!
Better keep those money printers going then Bertie. Thanks to Grunter and Beetroot we are apparently the 4th wealthiest country in the world so said ZM.
Covid is endemic – trying to eliminate by vaccine is a modern day salute to King Kanute.
The focus groups said +40 females want their trip to the GC so it continues. Lol.
Yes bert those tossers said open the border we have to learn to live with it, more like die from it, selfish pigs. Or is pigs to good a word for this lot.
Yep pigs to good covers pa
Gosh Bert such vitriol it’s not becoming.
Wow John such wokeness by you, I suggest a lie down and cup of tea old boy!
Those highly educated autocrats in the politburo have outdone themselves!
More of this fuckery will only lead to what happened in 2008. Another 9 years out in the cold with those 22,000 people they didn’t give a fuck about who will be all turfed out of the motels that they all call home now!
The idealistic, incompetent and vain all belong to this one party, Labour!
I really didn’t think they could be this bad but a re-run of their last time in government, 1999-2008 I thought was a lesson for them all. I was wrong. Funny how history repeats itself.
Now that they’re nearing halfway into their second term, the wheels are truly coming off the bus, again!
They’ve peaked at 50% and controlled the majority in the house and have done fuck all with it and have spunked $62b+ with nothing to show for it. The covid system is turning into a joke where they say get yourself vaccinated as soon as your group is able too! But the number of available vaccines are low and we have millions of doses on order but we kinda don’t know when we’re gunna get them! Who the fuck organised this piss-up without any booze! Oh! The woke libtards in the politburo in Wellington. Lockdown level 2. Fuck’em! Leave them there indefinitely.
Bert I understand where you are coming from but I must disagree with you . Life is full of risk and I think the best path to follow is to proceed with care which is better than hiding behind a rock. We could all travel at 30 Kph in our cars and few people would die but the economy would grind to a halt ,
Throughout my life I have had to make hard calls between staying in a job with a wage or taking a risk and becoming self employed. It takes all,sorts to make a country and I would calculate many of those on the right are those that take the risky decisions and those on the left do not . This is not a put down of any sector as both are needed to grow .
We need farmers and tourists to support the Nation going forward as they are our main strengths and we need to be able to do these in as save away as possible
I do agree but only to a small degree Trevor. This is a pandemic that has life ending consequences. Jobs are a dime a dozen and aren’t life threatening. Whilst you believe those on the right may take more risks, I believe they are also more likely to let others sink rather than going down with the boat.
Do you think Ghandi was right wing or Martin Luther King, they certainly took risk but not for themselves but for the many. The risks you talk about are for personal gain and that’s where I see the flaw in right wing ideology which creates the haves and the have not’s. Lastly, the reason I disagree with you is that we are a small country, a country that would be decimated if we allowed covid to become rampant.
thank you for reply as usual you give a concidering reason why you think as you do and made me check my own thoughts
Thank you sir, as do you. I enjoy our exchanges and thoughts and I admit to myself on many occasions you are right. Our government is not acting as quickly as it should on many things. You back your thoughts with critical thinking, personal experience and evidence. I admire that in a person.
Unlike our discussions, unfortunately I react to rather lame, tired,uneducated and irrational comments with little evidence to support with an emotional response. That is my issue to own, when all I want is for the best in people.
Put two sugars in Bert wonderful feeling much better.
Thanks for the tip.
You need sweetening up.
Bert. Ha Ha! And your words, “ took risk not for themselves, but for the many,” sounded very sweet to me. Well said, sir.
The visit to Wellington by the Australian tourist, proved the value of making use of the Covid Tracer app. Without its use, the places he visited could have been untraceable, thereby making the Covid issue more threatening than it already is.
It seems he did everything right during his stay, by making sure he recorded his visits.
I sincerely hope this virus doesn’t rear its ugly head in NZ. But only time will tell in the coming week or two week period.
I’m for keeping our borders shut, until Covid-19 is more controllable. We will all have to manage get by the best we can and do our bit in these unusual times.
Kia Kaha Wellington and the rest of NZ.
Bang on Mary.
mary-a. Agree. We should have exercised caution re visitors from NSW, and another lockdown will be hard for many of us, but we must do the right thing “ for the many”, and that’s that. Kia kaha.
Yes ironically the tourist used the app. Unfortunately not many of our own general population they would rather wring their hands and gnash their teeth (like many on this forum) and blame the government for their Covid ills. The vaccination is coming to a town near you soon , however it will only part of our Covid defense. We will still have to wash our hands, not go to work if sick and get a test if required. We will also have to scan which for many New Zealanders is a dirty word. For goodness sake stop with all the grizzling its all so useless and tiring. Have a look around the world , many countries have been in lockdown for ever just look at the UK. Whether you people like it or not Covid is in the world so just deal with it and get over yourselves and take your own responsibility.
I do agree but only to a small degree Trevor. This is a pandemic that has life ending consequences. Jobs are a dime a dozen and aren’t life threatening. Whilst you believe those on the right may take more risks, I believe they are also more likely to let others sink rather than going down with the boat.
Do you think Ghandi was right wing or Martin Luther King, they certainly took risk but not for themselves but for the many. The risks you talk about are for personal gain and that’s where I see the flaw in right wing ideology which creates the haves and the have not’s. Lastly, the reason I disagree with you is that we are a small country, a country that would be decimated if we allowed covid to become rampant.
Sorry for the double up Trevor.
“What’s the fucking point of the Australian tourist being vaccinated when the vaccination doesn’t stop you from passing the virus along?”
If you are truly interested why didn’t you first ask a virologist or immunologist instead of this forum?
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