The Daily Blog Open Mic – Sunday – 13th September 2020

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    • We do @Kheala, but none that are prepared to tolerate the exploitation, ripoffs and scams that have infiltrated the system AND which both the industry and MBIE have allowed to happen (both because of short term greedy thinking, and because of what H1 described as lack of capacity in our public service – and the way in which they’ve allowed themselves to be captured). Personally, I’ve no sympathy for either of them (the industry and MBIE). They’ve brought it on themselves

  1. Chippie and DR Shane seemed to agree on 99% of issues this morning on the Nation. Not sure if I’m happy of worried by that. Would have been a completely different interview if Woodhouse was still Health spokesperson? If National elected (choke) what guarantee does Dr Shane have of becoming Health Minister? None? Nil? Nada?

  2. Our climate is our future incinerator- read this;

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/us/climate-change-california-wildfires.html

    If climate change was a somewhat abstract notion a decade ago, today it is all too real for Californians. The intensely hot wildfires are not only chasing thousands of people from their homes but causing dangerous chemicals to leach into drinking water. Excessive heat warnings and suffocating smoky air have threatened the health of people already struggling during the pandemic. And the threat of more wildfires has led insurance companies to cancel homeowner policies and the state’s main utility to shut off power to tens of thousands of people pre-emptively.
    “If you are in denial about climate change, come to California,” Gov. Gavin Newsom said last month.
    Officials have worried about cascading disasters. They just did not think they would start so soon.
    “We used to worry about one natural hazard at a time,” said Alice Hill, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who oversaw resilience planning on the National Security Council during the Obama administration. “The acceleration of climate impacts has happened faster than even we anticipated.”

    Climate scientists say the mechanism driving the wildfire crisis is straightforward: Human behavior, chiefly the burning of fossil fuels like coal and oil, has released greenhouse gases that increase temperatures, desiccating forests and priming them to burn.
    Mark Harvey, who was senior director for resilience at the National Security Council until January, said the government had struggled to prepare for situations like what was happening in California.
    “The government does a very, very bad job looking at cascading scenarios,” Mr. Harvey said. “Most of our systems are built to handle one problem at a time.”
    In some ways, this year’s wildfires in California have been decades in the making. A prolonged drought that ended in 2017 was a major reason for the death of 163 million trees in California forests over the past decade, according to the U.S. Forest Service. One of the fastest-moving fires this year ravaged the forests that had the highest concentration of dead trees, south of Yosemite National Park.
    Further north, the Bear Fire became the 10th largest in modern California history — burning through an astonishing 230,000 acres in one 24-hour period.
    “It’s really shocking to see the number of fast-moving, extremely large and destructive fires simultaneously burning,” said Daniel Swain, a climate scientist in the Institute of the Environment and Sustainability at the University of California, Los Angeles. “I’ve spoken to maybe two dozen fire and climate experts over the last 48 hours and pretty much everyone is at a loss of words. There’s certainly been nothing in living memory on this scale.”

  3. Anyone know what’s happened to Shane? I haven’t seen him in the MSM lately – not even modelling the latest mafia Don’s fashion, or even exercising his ego telling us all about the wonderment of his intellectual and linguistic abilities. Has something happened to him? I’m really concerned now, and just hoping he’s discovered some pornographic mid-lie crisis activity to keep his spectacular mind from descending into a depression where he could end up finally realising he is a useless piece of shit.
    Maybe even Winston’s finally realised as well

  4. Anyone know what’s happened to Shane? I haven’t seen him in the MSM lately – not even modelling the latest mafia Don’s fashion, or even exercising his ego telling us all about the wonderment of his intellectual and linguistic abilities. Has something happened to him? I’m really concerned now, and just hoping he’s discovered some pornographic mid-lie crisis activity to keep his spectacular mind from descending into a depression where he could end up finally realising he is a useless piece of shit.
    Maybe even Winston’s finally realised as well

  5. No worries folks – unless it’s a duff lead. I think I’ve tracked him down. Or at least partly. Someone told me he was last seen in a David Jones dressing room, arguing with an ex Carnaby Street fashionista about the width of pin stripes on the suit he’ll wear when next we see him, AND over the style of headwear.

    Shane eh? whoar! he’s a survivor eh Winnie! Roll him out when things get really desperate. I’d suggest Morning Report on Monday might be the best time to bring him back into the fray

  6. Not sure if this is NEWSROOM or NEWSROOM PRO, however:
    “Hey… Govt borrowing costs just went negative” (Bernard Hickey)
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/pro/hey-govt-borrowing-costs-just-went-negative

    We’re still wedded to what’s now economic orthodoxy among politicians of the left and the right.

    Hickey politely points out that our politicians ‘came of age’ during the time the cult/religion of neo-liberalism and all that supposed ‘efficiency and effectiveness’ that’s burning the planet took hold.

    (To be read in conjunction with Bryan Bruce’s latest – https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2020/09/13/guest-blog-bryan-bruce-the-danger-of-fundamentalism/ )

  7. So who should bother follow the Level 2.5 rules in Auckland now, when the police allow thousands to ignore the 10 person maximum gathering rules, the distancing rules and so forth?
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/12/crowds-rally-in-new-zealands-auckland-against-coronavirus-lockdown.html

    “Local television footage showed tightly packed crowds, with many people not wearing masks, with estimates of the attendance varying in reports between a thousand and a few thousand people.”

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/tightly-packed-crowds-people-descend-auckland-cbd-anti-lockdown-protest

    As I observed it, the cops just stood by and looked.

    This is a message to the people that rules will not be enforced. I have witnessed the same when taking buses in Auckland. Some people ignore the requirement to wear masks and some also ignore the distancing rules, which drivers do NOT enforce.

    If this is how the government thinks it can control and contain the Corona virus outbreak and Covid 19, then I think they are not living in the real world.

    When people see the law is not being enforced, then they will laugh about it and ignore it.

    As far as I know, in other countries in Europe for instance, they’d tell people to break up the protest and go home. If they do not follow this, then they get broken up by force.

    The only Minister I heard comment on this was Grant Robertson, simply saying, people are allowed to protest.

    What is it now, Jacinda?

    • Drivers are there to drive the bus.They should not be put in a position where they are expected to enforce pandemic rules.

      • Indeed. If you want the drivers to become proxy enforcers, pay them more – much much more. Or at the very least, give them some hi-viz clothing and a stash of orange cones and the promise of better things to come.

        • Yep, that’d do it. Think of the opportunities for some entrepreneurial personage to manufacture some yellow hi-viz gear with a few blue and white checks. Win win so long as we don’t ‘offshore’ it in the uniform manufacturing space (goinfg foward)

      • If people breach the rules, they can stop the bus and say, I won’t go any further, until you put on your masks, or get off the bus, simple. They do it with people not paying fares or behaving offensively, at least some drivers who care.

      • So they should risk those refusing to wear masks spread the virus in the buses, potentially infecting them as driver also?

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