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  1. Perhaps it would be advantages in a future blog posting to paint a picture of what New Zealand society will look like under a communist system. All we ever hear is capitalist=evil. Property owners=evil, workers=saints. How do you see your ideas coming to fruition? Through the ballot box where one person=one vote? Or by the barrel of a gun?

    Maybe start at the most contentious. Will the state own everything? Will the “workers” own nothing and be happy?

    How does the state owning everything fit in with Maori ownership of property. Will they have to forfeit just like the 85% will?

    Never thought I would say this but the TOW will prevent any communist uprising in New Zealand.

      1. I did but apart from a slight more hazy “road map” then one produced by Ardern;

        “Meanwhile, Marxists know that ruling class will never allow any bourgeois government to enact such a program. If as a result of this election we take the left fork on the road to survival we will accompany the working class as a whole in the development of its “struggle against the bourgeoisie”. Along this road it will learn through experience that it needs its own independent workers party, workers’ councils and militias, and a program that guides it in the struggle to make the socialist revolution and create a Workers’ and small Farmers’ Government.”

        there is no picture of what New Zealand society will look like under communism in all those tomes.

        Maybe you could start with the answers to the question posed.

        How do you see your ideas coming to fruition? Through the ballot box where one person=one vote? Or by the barrel of a gun?

        Will the state own everything? Will the “workers” own nothing and be happy?

        How does the state owning everything fit in with Maori ownership of property. Will they have to forfeit just like the 85% will?

        Problem with all the post put up there is much Marxist ideology and hatred of capitalism, no much in the way of constructive action planning to achieve a result.

    1. COMMUNIST !! [preferally at volume 10]. I guess someone had to leap strait to the great capitalist fear. I prefer socialist. What we had before Roger Douglas came along. Perhaps modified somehow to follow the laws of Physics rather than the slanted, unfair and climate fucking monetarist ideas of capitalitalism. Put your thinking caps on folks. Regards, Keith

      1. Thanks kejo. My sentiments entirely. Why is criticism of the current state of Capitalism always met with Red Peril fear cries? Surely we are more intelligent than to fall into these same old reactions. We need a government that will not allow capitalism to trump people. That doesn’t mean throwing the baby out with the bathwater as some would have it. I suggest these Red Peril criers are propogandists of neoliberalism as they have a vested interest.

        1. “We need a government that will not allow capitalism to trump people”.
          Capitalism by another name?

          “That doesn’t mean throwing the baby out with the bathwater as some would have it”.
          Hasn’t this been tried before?

  2. Counter view – the virus was manufactured in a lab by a communist state
    Capitalism created the vaccines in record time that have the potential to save billions

    Here’s another good one – Labour NZ, amongst whom some members happily call themselves proud socialists whilst achieving and delivering nothing for the poor and needy despite an unheard of majority in an MMP environment

    1. Yeti living the Covid conspiracy in which Xi’s body is taken over by a Yeti to destroy the world.
      China has no interest in germ warfare. It has the most to lose releasing it in Wuhan. Nor is Xi so stupid as to allow the US to do it on China’s soil for the same reasons.
      Plus, China and US are global rivals and China is winning.
      What did you expect that Labour would do in power? It sold out the workers when it was formed in 1916.

    1. Trevor – I think you meant Capitalism.
      Capitalisation means turning small letters into capital ones, unless you are talking of capital in financial jargon.
      Of course, the alternative (leaving everything in small letters) would be a terrible disaster..

  3. Socialism in harmony with nature? Hmmm, when has that ever happened? The communisms were as much into the project of rapid industrialisation with all its resource depletion and pollution as the capitalisms were. And with the collapse of the communisms from the period around 1989 it is hard to see any kind of working class solidarity anymore. Consumerism, the neoliberal attacks on the unions and the shift away from manufacturing has certainly destroyed any semblance of working class solidarity in the Western countries. The former communisms of USSR and China are now brutal, authoritarian oligarchies on a dangerous mission of reviving good old fashioned nationalism. So much for the global alliance of the working classes. Will the working classes and peasants of China stop Xi from an egotistical invasion of Taiwan and risking global nuclear war? I can’t see it. And will the working classes of the USA get over their racist/nationalist MAGA madness and stop the GOP from gerrymandering the electoral maps and all the other attacks on democracy aimed to facilitate the corporate bullies to remain in power forever? I can’t see it. Cellphones, Tik Tok, guns, racist resentment and intolerance of difference have all done their bit to squash the socialist dream. And who reads Marx or Lenin for their utopianism anymore? Whereas their critiques of capitalist economics and imperialism, respectively, remain valid and useful.

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