It is a shockwave still reverberating around NZ politics and it will help form the next Labour led Government or create a backlash that sees National and ACT get elected.
There are many political winners and losers.
WINNERS:
Māori Party – A brilliant coup timed with the mischief only JT can pull. The Māori Party now have a Cabinet Minister ready candidate and JT is pushing the brand excellently. The momentum is with them alongside the Roy Morgan 4.5%.
Nanaia – With Meka crossing the Rubicon first, all eyes are on her to see if she will jump waka next. Her not telling the Cabinet about what was in 3 Waters hasn’t left her many friends.
Dr Kerekere – The Greens won’t take her call, but the Māori Party might. The Māori Party would be mad to accept her, there’s a reason the Greens are frightened of her.
Shane Jones – With the reality of a Labour led minority Government with Greens in support and the Māori Party providing confidence and supply becoming more of a possibility, watch as the big money start donating to NZ First (something that is already happening) and pressure comes on National to cut an Epsom cup of tea deal in Northland for Shane.
LOSERS:
Meka – It just seems all very self interested to voters. Meka was overlooked for promotion in favour of Willow Jean Prime and that always tends to make women of a certain age getting replaced very angry. Yes it’s smart politics, yes it gives the Māori Party advantage, but all at the cost of lot of her mana. She should call Willie and say sorry.
Parekura Horomia – That sound you hear is the great oracle of the East rolling in his grave. Parekura was staunch, staunch, staunch loyal when it came to Labour and watching his protege walk away from Labour would be a grim moment for him and his legacy.
Opposition – They are left bitching about whether the letter sent to the Speaker triggered the Waka jumping legislation like idiots arguing over a horse after the horse has bolted. Only beltway anorak wearing nerds care.
PREDICTIONS:
The management of this is a political test to the electorate over how Labour and the Māori Party can work together.
If it descends into recriminations and factional fighting we are seeing in the Greens, it will be the kiss of death at the election.
It is vital that dignity and mana dictate the response or else the media will seize on any shade throwing as the end of NZ democracy.
Solidarity and the ability to work together is where it matters now because a National/ACT Government intend to make enormous cuts in essential community infrastructure that will damage all the values both Labour and the Māori Party stand for.
This is a political test, managed correctly it will show the electorate there is nothing to fear from a Labour led Government with supply and confidence from the Māori Party.
Managed poorly and we hand ammunition to the Right.
If this works, Willie Jackson’s relationship with JT will become essential and it will highlight Chippy’s rightful faith in him as a senior Cabinet Minister.
For voters, a Labour led minority Green Government with supply and confidence with the Māori Party could generate the most economically progressive social policy change this country has seen since Michael Savage!
If ACT and National get in, however we will face the most right wing Government since David Lange.
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TMP needs Pakeha voters to vote for them to get to 4 5%. Not all, every Mowree votes for TMP or believes in their woke version of CRT. Maori have had enough of that belief theory bs.
As for the Pidgeon. She’d have to pull her head in if she was to defect to TMP and stay in her lane. I think that would be too hard for her to do.
As for the eco-terrorist mentally retarded gween party. They’re fucked! And good riddens!! They’ve been off their meds for the passed 6 years or so and it’s time that they be put under again. But for much much longer.
Martyn you miss the point about the opposition questioning this. It was Labour that brought in this legislation and now they have been shown that when it should have been triggered, they and their pet speaker have rorted the rules to their own end. This is not missed by a public getting more tired of this governments excesses while their standard of living declines at a rapid rate.
Wrong wrong. It was a NZ First policy crumb to get into government.
That’s why Winnie is very quiet. Shows he can’t draft a decent law even with all his ” experience”
A vote for him is a vote for Natacts. God help us.
SC I thought Trevor Mallard was their pet speaker, make up your mind
Queeny Mallard blotted his copy book and got exiled to Ireland. This one could end up on Pitt Island or the Orkneys.
Nothing was triggered except National party voters – maybe you need to take your concerns to the National Party and tell them you are not impressed with the way they handled Jamie Lee Ross’ departure.
Jamie Lee Ross salicious crumb
Martyn – Maori voters are not happy with BOTH Meka, and the Maori Party – it lacks Mana on both of them
Agree totes
Fantail – Thank you
Thank you for speaking for my family and myself, we as Maori, appreciate you for letting us know on how we feel.
“Only beltway anorak wearing nerds care.”
People should care whether the speaker broke the law, ELECTORAL LAW at that.
Loser: democracy.
Before we argue about who should be in power and what they should do with it we sorely need to clarify what that power is and how it should be restrained.
Our democracy is broken, and parliament is unacceptable.
This won’t get by the mods. Our democracy broke when a police officer at Albert Park, 25/3/23, allegedly stated that it was “not their job to protect women.” If their job was to protect others celebrating pure trans joy by silencing women gathered to speak and bullying, intimidating and punching biological women, then I suggest that signalled adieu to the rule-of-law, and democracy, both.
Democracy is of no concern to the Labour Party.
Of course not Ardern threw democracy to the wind in 2017.
Idiot it happened under Key.
Key gave us possibly the most democratic referendum we’ve ever had. Sadly, it was about our national flag.
I love these idiotic one liners! Did your mum tell you to say that?
100%
OMG I am in Te Pati Maori – a pakeha that I am – and absolutely they do not need the the parakeet and I am sure they just wouldn’t do that, they know she is A PAIN IN THE ARSE!
The maori party are too lazy to even turn up to work
facts bro
As long as the money goes in, it’s all good.
so how much money do you make on the sickness benefit bro?
Whats the point of that waka bill? Speaker is a disgrace! Intention was crhstal clear whether by text or written letter. His decision would never stand up in court. He should have said, sorry mate there has to be a by-election election.
Stuff and woke: How do we switch this back to Luxon?
There is zero chance of Nanaia defecting. She is way too deeply embedded at the highest levels of the Labour Party. A senior Cabinet Minister and a parliamentary member of Labour for 27 years. Also she looks at the world quite differently to Meka. She is not a Māori Party sovereigntist, but rather is at the forefront of biculturalism in the sense of a unified nation.
That may well be a very generous endorsement.
I wish you used plain English so that I, also, can understand what you said.
Would you have preferred him to say it in Afrikaans?
If we have to have the most right wing government since David Lange in order to cauterize and castrate the greens and labour who have everything coming to them, then so be it.
Labour need to spend time in the wilderness and take a good hard look at themselves and come back as advocates for workers and drop the woke virtue signaling nonsense.
” Labour need to spend time in the wilderness and take a good hard look at themselves and come back as advocates for workers and drop the woke virtue signalling nonsense. ”
LOL if nine years in opposition (and could easily have been 12 thanks to Winnie) they couldn’t do anything progressive or advocate and implement a fairer economy then they never will.
There has been a change at the top but Chipkins is no different to Ardern just listen to him evade hard questions like pensioner poverty or give a typical response from the neo liberal handbook.
The NZLP are prisoners of the plutocracy they have helped create and the powerful forces that now control and dictate economic outcomes then ask the public for a mandate to allow their agenda to continue.
Wouldn’t it be castrate first, then cauterize, rather than the other way round? Not that I’m down on the general idea.
Totally agree! I voted for Greens/Values once then Labour for three decades but I can’t see myself voting for Labour ever again. The “woke virtual signalling stuff” at the expense of the working class/small business class advocacy has lost me. Even Labour’s take on things Maori is skewed IMO and I’m of Maori descent. I long for real Maori leaders like Ngata, Paewai etc. of old not self interested frauds like Whaitiri who has let Parekura, her mentor and his forbears down.
Oh Jack what a naive comment. You want to sacrifice people on the NACT sacrificial altar.
I have a list of worthy victims, if you’re interested.
I see it as successful chemo.
Kills the cancer but has terrible side effects.
ACT wins, as deck chairs are rearranged & rats flee the ship.
How’s Co-Governance working out folks…???
At least people now know what they will be getting when they vote.
Why?. They didn’t last time.
Another costly pandemic? They didn’t know that last time, GP!
The “pandemic” part was well over by the 2020 election.
I meant he pua pua but I’m sure you knew that.
Voters should now know that Labour’s bold words & promises are quite different from their actual agendas & priorities.
A bit like Nat/ ACT the last time they were in power?
If Labour lose the Maori seats to TPM, they will not get them back again.
That’s my thoughts anyway.
Does it matter?
A vote for the left, is a vote for the left.
Maori who do not support woke will have to do a bit of soul searching before they cast their vote.
Nowhere to hide??
what you call ‘woke’ is simply enabling a decent society, devoid of poverty, homelessness, unemployment, racism, sexism, homophobia, and religous bigotry.
Paradox.
The hatred in your comments is palpable, only matched by homophobes and racists. Not a good look for woke.
I am sure you see yourself as virtuous.
Er Millsy…devoid of employment? That would suggest people will work. Sorry, you missed the bus on that one. We will never ever be devoid od unemployment. Too easy not to work.
They said that after they near all went to Nz first as well , but they did go back
Remember last time TPM went With National and ACT.
They won’t make that mistake again (nor will it be offered).
I do not understand why The Maori Party or the Greens lean the Labour as it treats them both with contempt. The treatment of the Maori King in London by ex Labour minister Palmer is a discrace .Surely someone in Chris Hipkins party was given a timetable of events for the ceremony and seen no space was allowed for an acknowledgement of the Kings presence. It shows the true feeling of Maori in the thinking of this party that is supposed have their back .
“The Meka defecation …” might be a better title.
Will it stay Meka or become Mega?
As I read this article, I find that there isn’t much in there that I would disagree with, or label as misleading, or partisan in it’s presentation of the realities faced by the various parties in the parliament…
What I am finding rather disquieting, verging on outright horror, are the utterly juvenile, ignorant, and the arrogantly bigoted drivel that passes for “political debate” in the comments section of practically every post written on NZ blogs “en masse”….
Having spent the majority of my time playing the blues everywhere but here, I come home in time to be trapped here by the lockdown, and haven’t I regretted it since!! I came back to find what used to be a country I could be proud of, turned into the largest daycare center for intellectual/emotional cripples I have ever seen..
I now have no choice but to accept that NZ has been stripped of it’s intellectual/philosophical foundation, and has been replaced with scratchy tape of circus music.. Such is how debased NZ’s intellectual/philisophical base has become.. What used to be regarded as poorly educated mediocrities are now the “smart ones”.. and every body else is too busy amusing themselves, or accumulating wealth at an insane level of greed to give even the tiniest fuck for what they are setting NZ up for.. They will probably be the ones putting up bunting to welcome the invaders once our power mad northern “friends” decide it’s time to “take out the gooks”… The Irish are extremely grateful to NZ for taking the heat off them for being the thickest people on Earth BTW..
Irish the thickest people on Earth? Well yeah, I mean what great minds has Ireland ever produced? Apart from Robert Boyle, Jonathan Swift, George Berkeley, Edmund Bourke, Oscar Wilde, WB Yeats, Seamus Heaney …
” Only beltway anorak wearing nerds care ”
Bomber I don’t describe myself in those terms but our parliament is supposed to adhere to their own rules but obviously only when it suits them.
Its hard to imagine Lockwood Smith , Margaret Wilson , Jonathan Hunt or even the despised Trevor Mallard would have dealt with this as seems to be the case with the current speaker.
It reminds me of the bias and dirty dealings of speaker David Carter during the government of the ” its almost legal ” gangsters in the shysters administration.
This whole inconsequential drama has show once again how self serving and arrogant these people are when it comes to the supposed mana of parliament.
This woman was a vicious nasty bully and should never have been a cabinet minister which is a reflection of the standards the LINO leadership adhere to when it comes to indulging these self serving individuals.
Winners at the next election, the new coalition government of Labour, Greens and TPM parties.
The losers (as they always have been and will remain to be) National and Act.
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