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  1. Actually, Andy, it’s not a “false equivalence” at all. You just can’t answer Frank’s point. The fact that you “have a problem with political Islam and Sharia” is your problem, not ours. In other words, GET OVER YOURSELF!

  2. Are you an expert on Sharia Law Andy? Neither am I, but if you’re prepared to base your understanding of it (probably just based on “these cunts chop people’s hands and heads off”) then let me know.
    We could then enter a discussion, but I’m picking your ego is driving your prejudice, and is getting the better of you (or maybe that should be the worst of you).
    All that aside, you’re probably on the losing ‘side’ – just as the likes of Garner and that pathetic comfy little Richardson have come to realise.
    (I.e. the keeper of statistics from polls you probably subscroib to on the AM show)
    What now is the outcome?
    They’ve accepted his beliefs are genuine – in that he doesn’t like usuary, or the downsides of commercialism.

    (And btw – that’s ‘by the way’), that’s coming from someone not that interested in sport since its commodification, and whose prejudices had me thinking SBW was just another pretty-boy poof (you know the ones that think during a same sex blow job, only the suckee is the gay man)
    I suspect you have many of the same fucked up values – but you know – es they say “En uff story” (Going forward)

    1. It appears the local and Aussie Rugby authorities are a lot more pragmatic than some posters here, Larry Williams etc etc. I saw footage on TV the other night of Aussie players with the same principles on the field without some of the logos worn by others.

      The Unions say they are quite happy to accommodate “sincerely held beliefs” held by their players. Ding!

      No players, no need for sponsors, no game.

  3. Really, Andy? Saudi Arabia – home of conservative brand of Islam, Wahabism – is a bedfellow of Washington and a staunch ally in Middle East affairs. Especially on Syria.

    Care to re-phrase your assertion?

  4. To be honest generalizing everyone in this country with an interest in rugby as being a boofhead etc is simply displaying the same ignorance you are all trying so hard to parody.

    I am left / love rugby / understand SBW’s stance and believe the best way for BNZ to handle this is to simply accept the removal of their logo.

  5. I am not religious but any belief system that does not promote and perpetuate greed like corporate banks will get my support .SBW
    has shown guts and integrity.The rugby community will survive
    because they know that one individual will not rock the boat
    so what is all the distress about?

  6. Me like rugby. Bank make rugby happen. Me like bank.
    He play rugby. Why he no like bank?
    Head hurt.
    Me drink beer now.

    1. That will encapsulate the level of discussion on this matter for many in this wonderful country.
      An opportunity to discuss the mere existence of legalised money printing and extortion as practised by the bankstas, and their parasitic relationship with dependent debt slaves locked into a soul-destroying financial system will pass by untouched.

  7. “Looking into the eyes of the boofhead sports broadcasters as they try to conceptualise SBWs ethical stance is just one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on NZ television.”

    Nice try, but (unfortunately) this has exactly NOTHING to do with ethics. This has EVERYTHING to do with Islam Sharia Law (SBW is a converted Muslim). The media should ask him what his thoughts are surrounding ISIL and their “righteous” effort to reform the caliphate. It would be quite amusing.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking_and_finance
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

  8. I never used to like Sonny Bill Williams, simply because I was fed up reading and hearing about his chopping and changing sporting codes. I thought he was so overrated and who cared anyway.

    However, since Sonny Bill became a Muslim I have changed my tune. It seems his choice of religion has made him a much better man with strong ethical principles and moral values. He seems more confident and outright, living his life through honesty, kindness and goodness.

    NZ needs more Kiwis of the calibre of Sonny Bill Williams. The country would be a much better place for it.

    Go Sonny Bill, you are a shining star in every respect.

  9. Good on SBW.

    For starters it raises the point that banks are not our friends and are in fact sucking the life out of this and many other economies simply to maximise returns to investors. All that money on overpriced houses that could have gone anywhere else but to the banks. Think about that!

    And this man is clearly evolving. And even better in his latest iteration he has done it to rugby where no one but no one every rocks the boat and the thickest of sheep mentality prevails.

    Where is Richie and Dan when they need em?