Look.
Firstly. It was a train-wreck debate.
Biden sounded out of breath as if he was running away from the Grim Reaper for the entire debate, but Biden is 81 years old!
Have you met many 81 year olds?
Biden makes other 81 year olds look positively youthful!
We are such an anti old people culture that is hyper youth focused, that we don’t actually see many 81 year olds!
Even our own parents we ship off to die alone in an evil corporate retirement village!
So when we do see an 81 year old, it scares the bejesus out of us.
Secondly, Biden maybe a better than average 81 yer old, he also isn’t a lying fascist criminal thug!
Trump lied and lied and lied and lied.
Sure Biden was a bit dazed and confused, but he isn’t an orange fascist lying corrupt cunt, and I just think not being an orange fascist lying corrupt cunt should matter more than it is.
Now, should Biden have been the candidate?
Fuck no.
Is this on the Dems for sticking to a candidate who was going to fail as spectacularly as that?
Fuck yes.
Should Biden step down and allow Michelle Obama to be the candidate?
Yes.
And for those who are walking away from Biden because his debate was shit, but were sticking by him despite his enabling of the war crime in Gaza? Wow!
If Trump wins this election, the planet is in danger. Can the Dems stop fucking around please?
I see the ‘world is in danger’ rhetoric, if Trump wins, is doing the rounds again.
The world was quite peaceful during Trumps term as president…
I’m not a fan of Trump, he is ego driven and indeed narcissistic in temperament, but the American voters were better off when he was president Vs Biden.
If Biden does step down it seems the only credible alternative is Newsome, and look at the absolute disaster California has become under his watch.
How can Michelle be ‘nominated’ as the Democrat candidate without a democratic mandate from the party? Or is that not important anymore?
Michelle is the epitome of Deep State, so we’ll just have more of the same please.
How does replacing a candidate at this later stage work without opening a can of worms? Doesn’t it have to go back to each state to select their delegates and Biden pretty much swept the primaries.
Why are these too old fuckers the best they can come up with .IM 70 and would not dream of standing for the job .We need to see a way more youthful person and I dont mean Hillary she is way past here used by date .Might be time they introduced an upper age limit on candidates .If either of these two get elected they may well die before the end of their term .
Martyn – Trump is 3 years younger than Biden…and his brain seems to be working okay.
Really? Does it? I think he sounds like a deranged idiot. Mind you – he is not a ditherer.
lols, covfefe to that.
I guess you’d take the ‘lectroction over the sharks as well.
Richard Christie – Huh?
What do you mean. huh? Don’t you understand Trump talk?
Biden appears to be well past it , but the only reason he’s even a consideration is that Trump ( who let’s face it is only about 10 minutes behind Biden) is a vile piece of shit. You can bullshit all you like. He’s not anti deep state at all, he’s not for the down trodden,and he actually attempted to incite a coup FFS. His own vice president could have been killed if one of the knuckle dragging boofheads had stumbled upon him.
All this talk of replacing Biden, even from the Democrat talking heads at CNN and MSNBC is a fantasy. Quite simply, they cannot replace him at this late stage, and I can only presume they’re ignorant of their own electoral processes. It’s excellent news for Republicans because such talk is an open admission that Biden is unfit to govern.
The individual states run elections, not the Federal government. Each state has its own election rules, and many have already closed their ballots and have rules preventing a change of candidate. If the Democrats tried to get around these rules, they’d be tied up in legal action for the rest of the century.
We often make the mistake of thinking the people behind the scenes of US politics are all evil masterminds, but this instance shows how hopeless they really are. There were calls as far back as 2019 not to put Biden up for election because of his health yet they chose him regardless I suspect because he is so easy to control. So now they’ve painted themselves into a corner and must bear the consequences.
Come on Marryn, Michelle Obama for POTUS, are you for fucking real, maybe you should tune in & watch Michelle Obama’s failed & excruciatingly bad Netflix Show that’s been a ratings disaster & a big dud, she has no qualifications, no credibility & zero legitimacy to be a Presidential Candidate, she’s not even a Politician, Senator or Governor so your suggestion is ludicrous, at least Bill Clintons evil witch of a wife, Hillary, served in Govt as a Secretary of State but Michelle’s only claim to fame is being Barak Obama’s wife! Both Biden & Trump are too fucking old, that’s it, there should be a age restriction, no one older than 70 yrs old can run for Office & that includes NZ, so right off the bat Winston Peters would be sent out to pasture a long time ago & that’s a good thing? Gavin Newsome & Gretchen Witmer will be parachuted in as President Candidate & VP Candidate, helicoptered in to rescue the Democratic Party because Dementia Joe is finished, he’s toast & so is the Democratic Party if they stick with this stilted walking, mumbling, bumbling Cadaver called Biden, his catastrophic Debate performance can’t be bullshitted away this time, but this is not a surprise to anyone who has watched this guy over the last 4 yrs, lying eyes can’t hide the reality anymore, even his leftist Political class & especially the Donor class who hold the purse strings want him GONE & even the compliant Western Media is braying for his removal, the 25th Amendment must be invoked, he’s gotta be removed from power NOW, the fate of the World is at stake?
The Merkins seldom select anything other than animated manikins and/or mental midgets as presidential candidates.
So a big fail for the “speak truth to power” media then? They couldn’t even resist the “Biden has a cold” dissemblance during the debate. No wonder Trump calls them fake news.
My grandad passed away last year at 85 after several years dealing with dimentia, that’s how old Biden would be by the end of his term…
I absolutely don’t want Trump to win, but if he’s the threat to American democracy that democrats say he is then they should have picked someone else as leftists warned years ago
The vicious trade bans and sanctions that Trump has promised to impose on China if he is elected, will devastate China’s export economy and ravage its industrial heartland.
https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/china-exports-boom-papering-over-economys-structural-deficiencies-by-alicia-garcia-herrero-and-alessio-terzi-2024-05
There can be little doubt that Trump’s actions will plunge this region into war.
We can’t do much about that here. What we can do is make sure that we stay the completely the hell out of it.
On the election of a Trump administration in America, New Zealand must immediately cut all intelligence and military ties with the U.S. and urge all our Pacific neighbours to do the same.
It should be a given that the war between the US and China that will be fought in this region will be fought in the same manner as the war in Gaza is being fought. Modern munitions and delivery systems are proving to be as devastating as nuclear weapons, with no long lasting radioactive fallout to contend with. Israeli experts who have perfected this type of warfare are being invited to take part in the military exercises being held in preparation for war in the Pacific.
It should be a given that the war between the US and China in the Pacific will be fought the same manner that it is being fought in Gaza. Israeli military experts who have perfected this type of warfare are being invited to the war preparations being practiced for in this part of the world.
1# Any attempt by any of our lickspittle politicians to sign us up to the AUKUS nuclear pact must be met with biggest protests the New Zealand peace and antinuclear movement can muster.
2# NZ involvement in war games and military exercises in preparation for this war must be also be met with mass protest.
“Biden was a bit dazed and confused, but he isn’t an orange fascist lying corrupt cunt,”
But he is an MIC warmongering glove puppet who provoked a war in Ukraine.
And why was Kennedy who is polling at 16% cancelled out of the debate. At least he can string a sentence together.
Michelle Obama would surely suffer the same fate as Hillary. What’s the qualification for the job? Marriage!
” Have you met many 81 year old’s ? ”
No they are kept out of sight and hidden away as to not cause embarrassment.
Along with many other things Biden is utterly selfish. Something the millennials can recognize.
Only he alone can decide not to contest the election as LBJ did in March 1968 the last sitting president to not contest a general election.
So far he has stubbornly refused to stand aside for the good of the country. He has just given Trump even more of a chance at defeating him in November after he limped through the debate.
Its ego and arrogance and the utterly compromised American electoral system and corporate moneys interference that are at fault here and the entitled members of the Democratic party and Biden who forget that its actually not all about them.
It seems the Americans have joined the predicament that is plaguing all the other pretend liberal free market democracies and that is an intense dislike of the two choices to lead their respective countries.
Confidence and hope have been sucked out of the electoral process as everyone realizes that no one has the answer or solution to the crisis of market driven neo liberal corporate control and oligarchy.
Either Biden does the honorable thing and looks past his entitlement and arrogance and steps aside , he loses to Trump or he wins and does not complete a second term such is his rapid decline to be responsive to the authority he holds as president.
” If Trump wins this election, the planet is in danger. Can the Dems stop fucking around please? ”
Its in danger regardless of the result. That much is certain.
The Dems are oligarchs in blue. Reich is very fond of Biden, which is a plus in my book. Just, the genocide and he can’t talk.
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