Māori Party shockwave – Labour Cabinet Minister to defect

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Labour minister Meka Whaitiri to stand for Te Pāti Māori

Labour minister Meka Whaitiri will stand for Te Pāti Māori next election, Stuff understands.

She is expected to officially announce her candidacy for Te Pāti Māori on Wednesday. By switching sides, Whaitiri is expected to lose her positions as a minister in the Labour Government.

Te Pāti Māori had already announced Heather Skipworth as its candidate for Te Tai Rāwhiti, a seat currently held by Whaitiri. However, Stuff understands an announcement will be made on Wednesday at Hastings’ Waipatu Marae about the seat.

This is an enormous political shockwave and John Tamihere is the expert at pulling these types of outrageous stunts.

To take a sitting Cabinet Minister and have them defect to your Party is classic political mischief from Tamihere.

It is also a tactical master stroke.

The Roy Morgan Poll released yesterday has the Māori Party jumping to 4.5%!

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Heather can be given a high Party ranking in return for Meka standing in the electorate she currently holds.

This shows a deepening of strategic ties between Labour and the Māori Party as the polling suggests the Māori Party will be Kingmakers.

What it is also showing is that when the Māori Party negotiate with Labour post election, they want the maximum leverage to negotiate with.

Add in possible surprise wins in South Auckland General electorates with Left wing royalty candidate like Louisa Wall and well known community leaders like Dave Letele, and the Māori Party could be the surprise winner on election night.

There is a demographic change occurring politically in NZ and the Māori Party and the Labour Māori Caucus is the beneficiary of that demographic change.

 

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124 COMMENTS

  1. Perfect timing.
    While the cat’s away the mice will play.
    I’ll bet my left nut there will be other defections from Labour to the Maori Party.
    With Labour falling 10% ( 33% to 30% ) in the latest poll there will be ongoing ructions within the Labour Maori caucus.
    Meanwhile the Greens continue their internecine civil war in public.
    Nothing but good news for both ACT and National.

    • There will be more defections from Labour as those low on the list fear for their political future.
      Outside of politics they are unemployable.
      Chippie is an embarrassment adding to the uncertainty.

    • Its an extremely poor way for Whaitiri to depart, especially for someone so senior as a minister. The big ol’ defect this the other side, fuck you, game over, thanks for employing me!

      She doesn’t bother telling the PM, he finds out when he turns his phone back on in the UK. It appears she told very few if any in Labour. Class all the way.

      No political party containing someone like that is worth even looking at let alone forming an alliance. Because that is the untrustworthy conniving standard they work from!

  2. The party switch will make very real the prospect in median voters’ mind that the next Labour Goverment will be led on co-governance by the Māori Party.

    • Who will defect next?

      Is there ideological room on the right for a Republican National faction? I think the conservatives will need to be very disciplined and stay united if they want to regain the treasury benches.

      The Moari Labour caucus is ready to pull labour left by any means possible.
      Is Hipkins safe? Can another Labour politician offer Moari a secure home.

      The greens are united on the issue of tapping into the wealth of NZers. Disarray in their ranks are a mere distraction.

      The liberals will argue the cake is big and we need to share it once and for all. The conservatives will argue we need to make sure we bake more and better cake so that we can all get more. The liberals will say, only morsels for the poor… the conservative side will argue, cut your nose to spite your face….

      Interesting. How are voters going to respond?

      • The Moari Labour caucus is ready to pull labour left by any means possible.

        The Maori caucus could have done this.. just not enough balls.

        • They have been trying hard but then JA left the room and Hipkins feinted to the right. Now progressives realise that it was a swerve rather than a feint.
          Are we seeing Hipkins running out of ground?

        • Got the gonads to do it now in the Run Up to the 2023 Election in November.

          I doubt whether NZ will have enough Popcorn to Watch All the Entertainment Over the Next Six (6) Months ????

          • Given you are illiterate when it comes to economics it’s no surprise you don’t understand,Bert.
            You need to brush up on your economic vocabulary.

        • Only way National or ACT are going to win the next General Election is to get Grand Dad Winston NZF over the 5% Threash Hold. Which is highly unlikely.

      • We need to tap that wealth to give us a half decent health system. If you don’t like it, move to the US. They don’t have public health care. In fact they don’t have welfare or anything. You’re just left to rot in the streets.

        • I feel for the poor Americans. Thanks for bringing their need to my attention.

          Your translation of what I argue is very poor. I am a supporter of progressive taxation because I care. (I care about fairness after need) Makes one wonder whether you understand what the word progressive means.

          By the way you lack understanding of the American health and welfare system.

        • Rotin the streets That’s so true. The mot disturbing memories Ihave of a recent visit to the US. A nice country , generally nice people but completely devoid of empathy.

  3. Te Parti Maori is no longer king maker. That implies Te Parti Maori could go either left or right. It is pretty clear now that Te Parti Maori will only go left. Therefore Te Parti Maori is simply part of the left bloc in the same way that the Greens already are.

    Does this mean that NZ First is also in the process of making the same style of migration, that is, being part of the right bloc, instead of being able to negotiate with both sides?

    If so, these developments will change the nature of coalition negotiations. No longer is there drawn out negotiations as parties decide which side they will support; that is already pre-ordained. Instead the negotiations will occur within the blocs as they determine the agreed joint platform. That will still take some time because the respective strengths of each party within the winning bloc will not be known till after the election. Obviously, the strength of each party within the bloc will largely determine the allocation of both policies and cabinet positions within the governing bloc.

    • I agree with your analysis. The battle lines will be drains more clearly.

      The side that play to their strengths and pry on the weaknesses of the other side best will prevail. Right and left will now be “tainted” and “identified” by their association as much as the policies that they promote.

      This is as it should be.

    • They would never go with the Nats, frankly they learnt their lesson when they went with them and only got the crumbs under the table.

      • But why would they even want too. National are corrupt. Luxon is a flake, he truly is. Hipkins will destroy him during the debates as Te Puke Luxon won’t even know which town the debate is held in. And people want him as PM, meh!

    • Just to add to this.

      It would be very helpful to voters if the two groupings (Labour/Green/Te Parti Maori for the Left and National/Act and maybe NZ First for the Right) could agree within their bloc on a basic set of agreed positions before the election. I recall Labour and the Alliance did this for the 1999 election.

      Obviously it can’t be everything, but there must be some fundamentals upon which they can agree. In my view they actually owe it to the voters. In this election, either of the alternative governments will be a coalition with the major party only having two thirds of the vote. That means major policy concessions to the smaller parties within the coalition. There ought to be some indication before the election as to what these concessions/agreements might actually be.

      • I can’t see Winston teaming up with the left this time round. He is opportunistic but he is also ambitious for NZers.

        I am yet to be convinced that all those on the left are ambitious for all NZers.

      • Well we don’t really know what Washington wants Wellington to do. I want sovereignty. I want domestic manufacturing, Security, job security, energy security, water security. 50% budget increase to health and education. But the most sensetive issue are wealth taxes. There are political status that can’t be discussed like military ties with Taiwan and Ukrain. Like if we are headed towards war voluntary or involuntary then let’s have that debate.

    • Why?
      One thing we know for absolute certain, the Maori party will not form a Government with National whilst ACT are involved.

      • Because left and right will in future be “tainted”/identified by the values of their potential associates. No place to hide!

        If you go labour you go left.

        There is another alternative government that may emerge form such a shift. A middle ground coalition. Imagine that? Labour and National forming a government. Fact is 25% plus 25% = moderate alliance that can govern.

      • As a National Party member I would hope they would not join with this racist party .I would hope Luxon tells NZF thanks but no thanks.

        • They are “Patriotic conservatives”. Like Republicans.

          Granted, that feels somewhat racist. But here we are, “co-governance” and all that.

          Freedom of speech dictates that we tolerate the opinions of others. MMP dictates pragmatism.

      • Too right Bert. TPM and Greens cannot work with Nact. A big clump of centre NZ swing votes are going to swing comfortably away from a Labour given the partners they’re going to need. I don’t like it, but that’s my sense of it. The same votes that gave Labour the mandate to avoid them needing Greens and/ or TPM as coalition partners at the last election are going to look at this election and throw their votes at National. We have 6 years of Nact to suck down ahead of us. So. Thanks Labour for squandering your mandate. Thanks Greens for loosing sight of core business, and thanks TPM for pulling off a stunning poach (or betrayal – however you want to frame it) at the expense of ‘The Left’s’ chance of looking like the kind of even tempered, calm and considered representatives NZ needs for the troubles we face. Chippy might have been a great, but . . . . yeah. I sure hope I’m wrong, I surely do, but yeah. Nah.

  4. Folks
    If you were in Labour and considered yourself reasonably intelligent and competent, and you looked at someone like Sepuloni now being PM and Marama being a minister, wouldn’t you pack it in and get the fuck out of there? You would. Except you wouldn’t find a job that pays like yours, no matter how useless you are..

  5. Labour had its chance in 2020 with that once in a generation MMP majority and they did not have the courage–or more importantly, the ideological ability and class position–to go for broke and lay waste to Rogernomics and Ruthanasia’s toxic legacy. Neo Blairism ruled and here we are.

    But nonetheless the 2023 General Election needs to see a Labour/Green/Māori Govt. (TOP? not yet convinced).
    Lesser evil voting is the unfortunate way with bourgeois Parliamentary democracies, because all main parties are in reality cross class and try and maintain they represent “all New Zealanders”. This is bollocks with only the degree of their subservience to capital varying. But you have to work with and struggle against basically with one eye on the future.

    We are indeed in the midst of major demographic change. Greybeard pundits are moaning on, but many new gens don’t give a toss about Māori capacity building and iwi moving closer to achieving some post colonial justice at last.
    Culture wars and the digital world have certainly changed things–for the worse in many respects. So the most right wing party of ’em all, ACT, plays the “look over there” game for their incel and libertarian fans with warm guns, Bennie bashing, Māori bashing & organised labour bashing. ACT will freeze minimum wage and cause all manner of shit to go down if they coat tail in again.

    So more power to TPM I say.

    • I think you are correct.
      The outcomes that Labour have created shows where the dominant ideological conviction of the current labour elite lies. Some labour ministers and MPs feel let down by the shift in ideology, it feels centre right. They dislike austerity and an aversion to imposing a wealth tax and feel they can pull Labour left of centre from outside the party more effectively.

      New leadership for the Labour Party? What polling suggests will determine this.

    • ACT aren’t going to “coattail” in, they will be a major part of the next Government. Big smiles all round.

  6. Once a defector, always a defector. To do so as the holder of a portfolio and when the leader is heading overseas in his role as the nation’s leader, ie, doing his job for his country, smacks of total self interest.

    • He is in charge of shifting the government from “transformative” to austerity. He is moving the government towards the centre right and how does that make traditional left wing progressives inside the labour tent feel?

    • Meka has always been surrounded by her own self interest. There’s nothing philosophical in her move.

  7. It looks like a straight left right choice for the coming election then.

    How national manages this will be interesting. The general dissatisfaction with labour and national have been entrenched by achievement and media spin.

    Without NZ first the government will move left.

    The battle lines may well be drawn around the big issues that affect us. The left will have to do better than to shout tax the wealthy, they will need to explain how reforming taxation will benefit society. How does democracy work for all NZers. How will free speech be protected.

    So it will come down to, whom do you trust.

  8. If you are going to vote for a third party, you might as well bypass the Greens.

    Te Pati Maori have better climate and environmental, and social justice policies than the Green Party. 

    You might say; ‘But Te Pati Maori policies are unrealisable. But at least we can count on Te Pati Maori to fight for their policies inside and outside parliament, rather than opportunistically subsuming themselves into the bigger party in exchange for getting their arse on a cabinet seat. A policy the exact opposite of the Greens who even if they do get their feet under the cabinet table, will be voted down every time, and then be bound by cabinet rules on collective responsibility to support whatever nasty policy the majority of cabinet ministers decide, disgusting their supporters and ending the Green Party as an electoral force.

    • What a complete shambles that would be,the very thought is terrifying.
      The economic shape of New Zealand is nearly always ignored,the only solution offered,more tax.

      • So Bob. National, reduce govt debt, reduce tax, and where does the money come from? Don’t give me ‘cut waste’. That’s all well and good but nowhere near what we need in terms of cash. That leaves the private sector. The same sector that just tells everyone to get f*cked when it suits. Marsden point being a classic example. I think the reality is National will have to take on debt, despite bleating about the future for the next generations.

        • Well Key took on debt to the tune of 90 billion after Labour had reduced it to 10 billion. That left NZ in a complete shambles that Labour have been trying to reduce ever since and to the stage they could even borrow to cover covid. You want shambles vote right.

    • If you’re voting for a third party, then ACT is the only choice. Actually if you’re voting, ACT is the only choice.

      • Really? The party that will totally f*ck the environment and sell the country to whoever ( oh sorry, whoever in the OECD). Make house prices go even further through the roof by removing the bright line test so people once again only invest in non productive assets. Talk about removing the ban on oil and gas doesn’t mean companies are going to pay to extract it.

      • Sure, if you want everything foreign owned and no public services left.
        To take the little we have now, and make it even worse is pure ACT logic.
        Hayek & Friedman would be proud.

    • That depends very much on what happens next in the Labour Party. If the progressives in the Labour party blindside Hipkins then it may be well game on.

    • Probably won’t try private enterprise given how she failed in the past.
      Much easier on the sideline of politics.
      Pays not bad either.

  9. Meka played well for the Parliament Netball team. Hopefully she is still able to play. Stu Nash a big loss to the rugby team also, especially the after match.

    Does beg the question, what is the point of the large Labour Maori Caucus. Needs to be slimmed down literally and figuratively.

  10. Can anyone remember how the waka-jumping legislation works?

    The left seem to have the assumption that Maori values and community ideals equals a rebirth for the left in the face of the Greens meltdown, but that may well prove an erroneous assumption.

    • She just moves to Maori side of the house and then labour can choose to kick her out. Then she looses the baubles of office.

      At least she has taken a principled position.

      • Seems like labour has grown a spine and are going to be kind and allow her to stay in parliament and allow tax payers to fund her salary.

  11. Te Pati Maori has built up some credibility over the last term. The Maori members of the Labour caucus also. If TPM had any sense they’d tell self serving Whaitiri to get lost.

  12. Feel free to call this a load of waffle, I will let you decided but this is what I see.

    After listening to Meka Whaitiri this was a choice for her Māori peoples needs.
    I respect this point of view as she was restricted in Labour to action for Māori, her greater freedom in the Māori Party will be immense.

    I do love her line of “Māori need to be the ones that do things for Māori”. This line I truly respect.
    The non Māori sympathizers who wokenize(?) or tokenize Māori, your days are numbered as the Māori party have a good upright in the ground without you. Working with Māori, not as one if you are clearly not. Culture merge is better than culture theft.

    My question is ‘how do we as a nation merge in a government to run state services’? Maybe at heart we are worried about the ‘state services’ title becoming less with more Māori involvement? Or Māori being part of “State Services” but it simply has a different name? Obviously “Co-Governance” doesn’t work – lol.

    Many in this nation seeing more political firmness by Māori on their own back seem scared because of a lack to discuss the elephants in the room in a weighed up civil manner. Sometimes I feel we look for right and wrong instead of being better people by understanding each other.
    Do we fail to understand culture is at the heart with many grievances – or should this play such a role in governing services. Personally with the Treaty I think culture makes New Zealand the richer because of our ability to envelope culture. To govern without culture would be . . . . yuk.

    However, how would we create a separate system of self governance and sovereignty for Māori but being inclusive of all? Or does it have to be inclusive? We clearly have been operating the other way round & it has not worked for Māori. So, how can we merge for both with policies and process’s to be more inclusive? Clearly it has to start with all parties working together. Or are we on the right path now but just to slow for Māori?

    I believe as a kiwi we have an ability to do this & well – in a way it is an exciting thought. But with the Māori Party we don’t get this message very well do we? A DAME WHINA COOPER would have been perfect about now.
    If together we explore respectfully there maybe a better way by mixing Westminster up even more for New Zealand.

    I do not wish to see two separate systems for both parties as this is a tax spending nightmare. But a system of governing in which we focus on everyone’s future in New Zealand but by being fully inclusive.

    On a current political note National must be a little worried – not because they cannot work with the Māori Party – in fact I’d go as far as to say with their strength in policy & process while in government they have the ability to be more inclusive for Māori. However, their elephant in the room is clearly ACT & their dismissiveness of the Māori Party. There is a stubborn line in the sand with ACT without thinking outside the box.

    It would be better for NZ if National or Labour were alone with the Maori party instead of Labour with the Greens or National with Act. Just my personal opinion, but irrelevant to how democracy in NZ will most likely work.

    This next election will be fascinating – that is for sure.

  13. We can tell its election time the NZ media always seems to put the boot into the Greens at this time as do the right-wing commentators. As for Meka switching parties this does not surprise me she is merely aligning herself with a party that shares similar views and ideology. I am on the Māori roll and in the Ikaroa Rawhiti area and I will give Meka my vote again this election, but I will be giving Chippy my Party vote at this stage primarily as I don’t want Act and National in power again. I can see our country going backwards under the Nacts. Both the National and Act parties have shown they care mainly about the rich and we all know the trickle down does not trickle down it trickles up. In fact, many millionaires globally became billionaires, and this tends to occur when there is a war or epidemic event. We only have to look at what has happened in Russia. Why some dumb NZers like Trevor above continue to call the Māori party racist when our entire political, judicial, social and economic systems are founded and based on racism and discriminative practices justifies the need for a Māori political party.

  14. We can tell its election time the NZ media always seems to put the boot into the Greens at this time as do the right-wing commentators. As for Meka switching parties this does not surprise me she is merely aligning herself with a party that shares similar views and ideology. I am on the Māori roll and in the Ikaroa Rawhiti area and I will give Meka my vote again this election, but I will be giving Chippy my Party vote at this stage primarily as I don’t want Act and National in power again. I can see our country going backwards under the Nacts. Both the National and Act parties have shown they care mainly about the rich and we all know the trickle down does not trickle down it trickles up. In fact, many millionaires globally became billionaires, and this tends to occur when there is a war or epidemic event. We only have to look at what has happened in Russia. Why some dumb NZers like Trevor above continue to call the Māori party racist when our entire political, judicial, social and economic systems are founded and based on racism and discriminative practices justifies the need for a Māori political party.

  15. We can tell its election time the NZ media always seems to put the boot into the Greens at this time as do the right-wing commentators. As for Meka switching parties this does not surprise me she is merely aligning herself with a party that shares similar views and ideology. I am on the Māori roll and in the Ikaroa Rawhiti area and I will give Meka my vote again this election, but I will be giving Chippy my Party vote at this stage primarily as I don’t want Act and National in power again. I can see our country going backwards under the Nacts. Both the National and Act parties have shown they care mainly about the rich and we all know the trickle down does not trickle down it trickles up. In fact, many millionaires globally became billionaires, and this tends to occur when there is a war or epidemic event. We only have to look at what has happened in Russia. Why some dumb NZers like Trevor above continue to call the Māori party racist when our entire political, judicial, social and economic systems are founded and based on racism and discriminative practices justifies the need for a Māori political party.

  16. This is a Masterstroke Trojan Horse move by Labour? Getting one it’s Minister into the Maori Party, who will be Kingmaker? Boom!

  17. SaveNZ that certainly applies to parties other than National and Act.
    Majority of the National and Act Party held responsible jobs outside of politics, while the majority of the other parties are unemployable outside of politics.
    Astounds me why people vote for the unemployable to run the country?

  18. We can tell its election time the NZ media always seems to put the boot into the Greens at this time as do the right-wing commentators. As for Meka switching parties this does not surprise me she is merely aligning herself with a party that shares similar views and ideology. I am on the Māori roll and in the Ikaroa Rawhiti area and I will give Meka my vote again this election, but I will be giving Chippy my Party vote at this stage primarily as I don’t want Act and National in power again. I can see our country going backwards under the Nacts. Both the National and Act parties have shown they care mainly about the rich and we all know the trickle down does not trickle down it trickles up. In fact, many millionaires globally became billionaires, and this tends to occur when there is a war or epidemic event. We only have to look at what has happened in Russia. Why some dumb NZers like Trevor above continue to call the Māori party racist when our entire political, judicial, social and economic systems are founded and based on racism and discriminative practices justifies the need for a Māori political party.

  19. Following the vile fascist style hate campaign by the Far Right, drove Prime Minister Ardern from office, her replacement, Prime Minister Hipkins, has quailed before the Far Right and rolled back a lot of Prime Minister Ardern’s more progressive policies. In my opinion Hipkins cowardly pandering to the Right and Far Right has fueled Maori discontent.

    Maori discontent with Labour led Meka Whaitiri to leave the Labour government to join the Maori Party.
    Maori discontent with Labour led Tariana Turia to leave the Labour government to found the the Maori Party.
    Not since the Labour Government took away Maori rights to take court action to challenge the exploitation of the seabed and foreshore has there been such a high level of Maori disaffection with a Labour government, or such a high profile defection by a Maori MP from a Labour Government.

  20. At least when the House sits first after the election she’ll be very used to the view from the seat she will occupy going forward.

  21. Tamihere is a cunning fellow.
    Now, in all likelihood, targetting Kerekere and Tuiono, the disaffected Greens.
    But reckon Ngati Seymour is one defection too far!
    If Labour, Green and TPM make up the next governing coalition it will only be if TPM get a very, very good deal for the tangata whenua.
    An interesting few months ahead.

    • if you want a wreaked economy.

      Mind you anybody who thinks act is the answer when their leader thinks making greedy fucks pay the same tax as everyone else is tall poppy syndrome – lacks basic logic and math skills.

      • I’m sorry sparky but you can level plenty of accusations at ACT, but wrecking the economy aint one of them.
        The Labour party has managed to drive us into a recession whilst simultaneously spending like Nicholas Cage on speed.
        They are by far the most reckless party NZ has EVER had in parliament, far surpassing the gross incompetence of the Muldoon government.

        • Did you not read Acts tax plan fruitloop, the economy will bottom out under ACT such are the horrendous policies Martyn has been at pains to point out on this site. But as long as you live in Epsom, you’ll be all right Jack. The last Nact government will go down as the worst for our country in history, EVER. Muldoon and Richardson would be proud . In fact they’re now even rolling out the old battle axe Richardson so National are truly desperate. We know the irreparable damage she caused when she was last in power so lije National can never ever be trusted.

    • meh – RINO. they’re captured by the austrian school of failed economic theology like the rest of them.

  22. We can tell its election time the NZ media always seems to put the boot into the Greens at this time as do the right-wing commentators. As for Meka switching parties this does not surprise me she is merely aligning herself with a party that shares similar views and ideology. I am on the Māori roll and in the Ikaroa Rawhiti area and I will give Meka my vote again this election, but I will be giving Chippy my Party vote at this stage primarily as I don’t want Act and National in power again. I can see our country going backwards under the Nacts. Both the National and Act parties have shown they care mainly about the rich and we all know the trickle down does not trickle down it trickles up. In fact, many millionaires globally became billionaires, and this tends to occur when there is a war or epidemic event. We only have to look at what has happened in Russia. Why some dumb NZers like Trevor above continue to call the Māori party racist when our entire political, judicial, social and economic systems are founded and based on racism and discriminative practices justifies the need for a Māori political party.

    • So the fact that the Greens are behaving more appallingly than any other party by a LONG margin doesn’t warrant a little scrutiny? LOL! What have you been smoking?

      • Maybe smoking he same as you, Jays? It manifests as as hyperbolism and impedes one’s memory, particularly of political history.

  23. I’ll state again, I’m not Labour. (Also not the other Andrew, hence the name change) But they threw away 3 years of total control of parliament. Any excuses about why things couldn’t be done are null and void. So many policies, programs and projects they said they had ready to go, now nowhere to be seen.

    I didn’t like a chunk of their policies, but DO SOMETHING!!!!! All the ideas are moot and useless unless you actually do something with them. Now all we know is the current crop is beyond useless at doing anything remotely more demanding or complicated than a photoshoot or press release. I wanted to see programs put in place so we can actually evaluate them. Instead it is now going to be a decade of “we would have fixed that if we were able to put our policy in place” excuses. And rubbish, you had the chamc and mailed it in.

    And someone help the poor students if I get instructed to implement the policies one of TPM advisors tried to explain to us in my school of preferentially passing Maori if they seem even bothered to attend. It’ll end up causing decades more problems and horrific failures the educational system can’t afford anymore.

  24. What was the name of that NZF tv personality fulla who left NZF and declared himself to be an independent candidate, representative and got away with it?

    • Some have been indoctrinated, I mean ‘educated’ with globalist ideology. The mellinial effect. They ‘believe’ in another reality. They have adopted the Mellinial & GenZ doctrine of ‘hope’ and unicorns.

      It’s a new cult.

      • We are all driven to madness by all this woke nonsense.
        “They” are even trying to claim ownership of science.

  25. maori, green and ACT… let’s have some real progression in our parliament. lol dreams are free.

  26. This being an entirely appropriate move on the part of the minister, given that both major political parties display a stunning and shocking snobbery towards the minor political parties, which they have displayed for many years now, and this is an attitude which is certainly not called for.

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