“THE COALITION OF CHAOS”, that’s how Matthew Hooton and the right-wing commentariat are describing the putative Labour-Green-Te Pāti Māori parliamentary alliance. Which is a contradiction, of sorts, since the notion of New Zealanders voting in favour of chaos is, on its face, nonsensical. Then again, Hooton is more than shrewd enough to grasp that the mood of the electorate may be sufficiently volatile to generate precisely this result. As he has pointed out in recent commentaries, the combined vote of the two main parties, at 70 percent, is historically low. Nearly a third of electorate is “grumpy”. That’s a lot of pissed-off people. Chaos is an option.
But, Hooton’s chaos will only eventuate if Te Pāti Māori and, to a lesser extent, the Greens, are able to attract the support of a great many more young and/or disillusioned voters than usually make it to the polling-booth. Since neither party has the political organisation to mobilise a mass vote on their own, a higher than usual turn-out on 14 October will be a sociological – not a psephological – phenomenon. For some as-yet-unrecognised reason, tens-of-thousands of young and/or marginalised citizens will have arrived at the same conclusion: this time, casting a vote will make a difference.
What could lead them to such a conclusion? Paradoxically, it could be the Right’s crazy-screaming-horror campaign against the “Coalition of Chaos”.
Between them, National and Act already have approximately $7 million to spend – most of it over the next four months. More than enough to spread crazy-screaming-horror far and wide. Undoubtedly “Middle New Zealand” will run wild-eyed into the arms of the Right, terrified that a bloodthirsty mob of socialists, anarchists and revanchist Māori are coming for the family trust. The question is: will such a scare campaign only make those voters who were already walking towards National and Act break into a panic-stricken sprint? Who will it get them that they haven’t already got?
Advertisers – including political advertisers – generally create their product with a specific demographic in mind. The message they craft is for that particular demographic, and if they get the message, then the ad is counted a success. But, most ads contain multiple messages which, in the demographics not specifically targeted, may excite responses which were not in any way anticipated by their makers.
An ad for a motor vehicle retailing for $80,000, for example, will not be framed for a person living on the dole. And yet, such a person may well see the ad. He or she may notice that the people driving the luxury vehicle are all beautiful, thin, and moving through a physical and social landscape light-years from their own. The fast-moving sequence of images may, therefore, arouse intense feelings of exclusion and deprivation: angry fantasies of conquest and vengeance. Not at all what the ad’s makers intended.
In much the same way, a party political message contrived to inspire crazy-screaming-horror in middle-class Pakeha women who usually vote National, but who gave a vote-of-thanks to “Jacinda” in 2020, may convey a very different message to angry young Māori determined to escape from the impoverished environment in which they feel imprisoned. If the prospect of Te Pāti Māori becoming part of a governing coalition strikes such abject fear into the hearts of the Pakeha, then casting a vote for TPM might begin to look like a very good idea.
If the Left is smart, it will take a leaf out of the playbook of those who campaigned in favour of adopting MMP. Arguably the most effective pro-MMP poster stated simply: “If you’re looking for a good reason to vote in favour of MMP, just take a look at the people who want you to vote against it.” By the same logic, if National, Act, and the whole right-wing establishment are trying to scare New Zealanders into voting against a Labour-Green-Te Pāti Māori government, then maybe that’s the best possible reason to vote for their “Coalition of Chaos”.
Labour, the Greens, and Te Pāti Māori might also decide to simply turn the tables on National and Act by spelling out for the electorate the chaotic consequences of a right-wing victory predicated on thinly-disguised racism, climate-change denial, and the upper-classes’ mortal fear of being required to pay their fair share of tax.
Te Pāti Māori, in particular, could politely enquire of National and Act how they propose to squeeze a million aspirational Māori back into the colonial box from which they have only just begun to emerge?
The Greens could demand to know how a National-Act Government was planning to explain to the rest of the world why Aotearoa-New Zealand isn’t pulling its weight on climate change?
And Labour could invite the voters to decide which combination of parties had the best chance of dealing effectively and fairly with the urgent and inescapable challenges of delivering ethnic, social and ecological equity to Aotearoa-New Zealand: National-Act, or Labour-Greens-Te Pāti Māori?
That the two ideological blocs remain so close in terms of their overall voter support (see the latest Taxpayers Union-Curia poll) suggests that very close to half of the electorate knows that Aotearoa-New Zealand must change. Business-as-usual sounds wonderful, as does the return of racial harmony, and the weather getting back to normal. But, deep-down, half the population understands that a “return to normalcy” is not a realistic proposition. Maybe the other half, the half telling the pollsters that they intend to vote for National and Act, also know that things cannot go on as they are, but they’re resentful that so many difficult changes have fallen to their generation, and frightened that they may not be equal to the task.
Raising the spectre of a “Coalition of Chaos” offers this apprehensive half of the electorate an acceptable excuse for running away from the changes every New Zealander should be steeling themselves to embrace on 14 October. The changes necessitated by the Treaty. The changes necessitated by Climate Change. The changes necessitated by the extreme disparities of wealth in Aotearoa-New Zealand.
That what makes the expression so despicable. Electing a National-Act coalition government won’t protect New Zealanders from chaos, indeed, the probability is that swinging hard to the right it will only make their lives more chaotic. Change may be delayed for a while, but it cannot be denied indefinitely. Those who try to stop it are almost always overwhelmed by it.
In chaos there is fertility. Out of chaos new worlds quicken and grow.
Sorry Chris I think you missed the mask on this one.
The Right can justifiably claim that a vote for the left is a vote for a litany of broken promises (Kiwibuild, a billion trees, an open and transparent govt) and a list of hidden agendas that go to the heart of democracy (co-governance, he puapua, entrenchment attempts, ethnic local body election takeovers (a la Rotorua)). That’s where I’d be attacking them.
You are right in how the Right spend their considerable funds will be important, but remember Don Brash got within a whisker of overthrowing Clark with some simple but effective ad campaigns, and Clark at the time governed over a well oiled Labour party machine, and this Labour party is far from any of those things. They didn’t look like they were fit to govern in 2017, and not much has changed.
Labours only asset is that Luxon is such a bore.
Lange/Palmer/Moore (all proxy for Douglas) Bolger, Shipley, Brash, Clark, Key, Ardern, – all shored up neoliberalism.
Some enthusiastically others because they were too craven to confront it.
God, I’m tired of simply voting AGAINST the Right for 45 years.
I can’t be alone in wanting to be able to vote FOR a genuine leftwing party that has a modicum of success.
Just once, before I die, even once will do.
Slow learner.
Don’t describe yourself in that way Johan.
Stubborn attachment to 1 person = 1 vote and free speech is a sign of “thinly disguised racism”, is it Chris? And who exactly are the climate change deniers in the Nats and ACT?
Pulling the demographics apart is as racist as it is possible in the modern world.
The problem is that the current political parties, as representatives of their Wall Street donors, hope to demobilise the “tens of thousands of marginalised citizens”.
The absolute last thing the local oligarchs want is for party policies to actually reflect public opinion, because it would automatically turn the election into Bernie vs. Trump.
That would mean the collapse of Reaganomics, and the end of the neo-cons. The press would immediately dive back into wall-to-wall, Russiagate-style hysterics — the U.S. cannot lose control of its vassal. Not right before Nuland & Co. attempt to smash China into pieces.
Instead what will be served up is more Culture War slop — Gore vs. Bush re-heated. Full of political distractions and fear-mongering, while discussion of the biggest political issues will be verboten.
Indeed.
Yes didn’t Luxon throw the book at Pugh for her climate denying views?
She needed to read the book. But throwing the book at her shows just too much violence.
I wonder whether she actually sat down and read the book, on evidence it appears no-one else has!
Chris – The Maori Party cannot draft a bill correctly, despite free help available from the Crown Law Office, and Parliamentary Services…hence why the first reading of the Seabed Mining Ban Bill did not pass — embarrassing!
and Debbie Packer voted against her own bill.
If that’s not chaos, I don’t know what is!
Andrew – Mind blowing is a nice way of putting it
It was in the heat of the moment and was quickly corrected.
The Chairman – You are too kind
Thanks Chris, there’s obviously some truth in what you say, the problem is the maths. There simple aren’t enough people sufficiently concerned about the issues that obsess the TMP and Greens. According to the September ISPOS survey the top five issues currently concerning New Zealanders are: inflation / cost of living, followed by housing / price of housing, healthcare, crime and the economy.
TMP and Green, their delusional hard core supporters excepted, have serious credibility issues and most “disillusionment” with the status quo will be directed at the party that has held the reins of power for six years or so. Their incompetence will be their undoing. Debbie voting against her own bill in parliament says it all, the coalition of chaos pretty much sums it up.
Generally people would be happy of those things were “fixed”.
The problem is that it is no longer about being happy, it is now all about feeling happy.
“ACT and National, their delusional hard core supporters excepted, have serious credibility issues”
There, that’s better.
Only serious political parties in New Zealand are National and Act.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/04/435-lies-by-john-key/
Yes there is nothing to suggest the top 5 issues would be addressed by Labour/Greens/TPM.
Yee Hah! Blobby will be getting blisters on his other hand now!
Childlike as usual.
We know you are Blobby but continuing to see yourself in that way is of no concern to us.
There is nothing to indicate you have any intellect on NZ politics judging by your comments Nob, oops sorry I did mean Bob.
Funny.
Sometimes you need to destroy the village in order to save it.
I’m voting for order, not chaos.
The trick is to persuade the disenfranchised, that voting changes nothing 😉
And thus isn’t worth doing.
Just remember, things are better than they’ve ever been, now, under Labour.
You are being sarcastic aren’t you Peach. NZ has never been worse in my life time since Labour came to power.
I have always voted Labour my whole life. Re juice at their victory in 2020. The country has become more divided, inequality has got worse, the health system a catastrophe (never hard to wait so long to see a Dr). Catastrophic situation with school truancy (and Labours first response to run an add for kids to try and get them back to school). I could go on.
Anker worst Government in our history.
By every measure they are failures.
You have a small penis Bob by every measure so that makes your measurements tiny. Best government we have ever had in history is Labour. Jacinda in Massachusetts and Bob in New Zealand shows her success is rewarded with an international post. And where are you Bob?
Success is generally a measurement of luck.
My anatomy NSC?
Gosh you are so childish.
It’s your posts that are the most childish this site has ever seen. You need a break Bob, you seriously do. You are a failure by every measure.
John Key = failure…
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/04/435-lies-by-john-key/
Great man Sir John.
Bob the most corrupt government in our history unquestionably, your favourite John Key National Party…
https://www.kiwiwatch.org.nz/john-ket-donate-13-7m-new-zeland-taxpayer-money-corrupt-clinton-foundation/
Keep it up my devotee’s this is so much fun.
People’s demise and corruption is funny?
Thanks Blobby we confirmed our suspicions.
The demise of people under this Labour Government unprecedented in our history.
But aren’t we basking in the warm glow of Ardern & Co’s successes?
She is in Massachusetts.
She’s definitely basking in her success.
And very well deserved…
You know you’ve been successful as a leader when you have to flee the country to enjoy your “success”.
Love it!
Flee the country or stay here and work with brothel owners. Yes one works(flees) for the betterment of the world, the other for himself. Why did Key jump?
For much the same reason, couldn’t win, so quit, then headed off overseas. A familiar story.
One for the betterment of the world, one for himself, completely different.
Charles that’s a stretch and you know it.
Anyway I respect your loyalty to Jacinda.
100% correct Charles. If Blobby disagrees we on TDB know it’s correct.
Jacindas “whānau have withstood the ugliest attacks over the last two years”.
The likes of Bob are at the front right and center of those misogynist attacks. Bob is threatened by women in power, that’s why he likes boys.
Bob is a member of this rotary club…
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=024765481dba0c88JmltdHM9MTY4Mzc2MzIwMCZpZ3VpZD0zMmIwZTdkNy00ZjJhLTYxZGEtMjA2NC1mNWM5NGUzNDYwNTAmaW5zaWQ9NTU0Nw&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=32b0e7d7-4f2a-61da-2064-f5c94e346050&psq=Jacinda+Ardern&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXNuLmNvbS9lbi1uei9zcG9ydHMvb3RoZXIvcm90YXJ5LWNsdWItYXBvbG9naWVzLWFmdGVyLWJhY2tsYXNoLW92ZXItZGlzZ3VzdGluZy1pbWFnZXMtb2YtZm9ybWVyLXBtLWphY2luZGEtYXJkZXJucy1mYWNlLW9uLXRvaWxldC1zZWF0L2FyLUFBMWFPNG1B&ntb=1
Blob you are a liar and you know it.
Charles “betterment of the world” you are in fantasy land.
She is entitled to her glory. Deserved…..?
That is the problem with Merit. Success of often down to luck.
Any merit she wouldn’t have jumped ship.
Silly comment.
Never tell lies Bert.
You always tell lies Blobby, even saying you don’t tell lies is a lie.
Any merit and she wouldn’t have needed to.
Yes she realised she had made a mess of things so off to Havard.
My experience and views mirror yours entirely Anker
Yep, I had a painful sinus infection and had to wait 4 weeks for an appointment cos the medical sector is screwed.
Thanks Stalinda!
stalinda hee hee hee jays 6months too late and not the full quid
I’ll write this slowly Jays so you’ll be able? To read it. It takes several years to train a GP. Therefor those who started training in 2017 will just be hitting the surgeries. As the medical schools are at capacity perhaps you or Bob would like to explain why training spaces were not increased to match population growth by the National, MP and Peter Dunne coalition of Chaos?
Who cut the funding for truancy officers and the funding for the mines inspectorate and didn’t that work out well. It certainly wasn’t the worst government ever!
I would like Bob or Jay’s to dispute your comment with evidence based facts but they lack neither the intellect nor political understanding to do so kiwijoker. You can’t increase a small countries population by a million people in 9 years and not spend to accommodate that growth. The National, ACT, Maori and United Future parties of those 9 years are responsible for the state of NZ today. That is undisputed.
Bert check your grammar, that’s a shocker.
Credibility zero.
Blobby, check your bedroom, the police are on their way.
Really Bert,come on old boy.
Evidence Blobby, as usual, you can’t.
You Bert is all the evidence I need.
Your welcome Gays.
Bert I’m not gay but unlike you I don’t demean people who are.
Indeed.
2+2=5.
We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Closeness to economic super powers limit GDP growth. All our good stuff goes to the higher bidder. Oil, seafood, even water. And y’all set back blaming Labour. Piss off.
Excellent and interesting Post @ CT.
One little thing. Bit off-topic. Thus apols.
To the ‘Free Peach’ commentator.
Why can’t you say what you mean in one comment rather than drip your gibberish out over four comment segments spanning 8 minutes as above? It’s not what you write though, is it. You’re simply making sure that your ‘Free Peach’ logo i.e. marketing ploy is ‘seen’ thus absorbed. You’re effectively pro-advertising Seymour/douglas and their privateer mates! That’s it isn’t it. You’re using advertising strategies to shove the twerker into our subconscious and by extension, you’re protecting the cadre of privateer, multi-billionaire crooks who stole our taxes paid for shit and the lobbyists who sold us out to four foreign owned banks stealing $180.00 a second in net profits annually.
I’ve conducted my own little experiment here. So long as one’s able to have more than one email address one can have more than one comment under many different nom de plumes.
Is that why The Daily Blog seems to be becoming a tree full of neoliberal meth addict starlings all squawking at once?
Or are they just one squawking starling cleverly being in more than one place at one time?
I’ve just proven that one can, for I am also COUNTRYBOY !!!! Ba hahahaha ahaha a!
@ TDB. Proof of ID to register as a commenter might be a good idea. Otherwise it can all become a bit dodge’.
Finally; Have you seen this?
Same. Not different.
The Reserve Bank of Australia has made an ad, and it’s surprisingly honest and informative.
https://youtu.be/DNxXRigHri4
Countryboy Free Peach sticking with the name not like others on this site,particularly those that use a thousand words when a few will do.
Prove Free Peach doesn’t use another name, of course, unless, yes, Free Speech is none other than Bob the first. Yes, thats what it’s is.
Because he uses so many one liners that are full of hyperbole with nil intellect involved. Uses few words because he doesn’t add to the dynamic of the topic and rants on consistently about his hatred of left wing politics. Bob the Peach.
Great comment
Cheers,
Bert
Talking to yourself Bert?
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling kids!
My meddling kids were being sodomised by you.
You do have some rather disgusting ideas Bert, I do hope you have no involvement with children. The previous comment was a quote.
Oh gosh dear peach, am I cancelled by your warped ideas or are you just going to shoot me. I do hope your gun fetish does not involve schools in any way such are your delusional political beliefs. And you can quote me on that.
Short Comments…
Get Published…
… instantly!
Long comments…
… get censored…
… by the moderators.
…You ignorant twat!
The trick is to post a provocative short post early and make sure it actually appears, then everyone else gets all bent out of shape replying, but their replies don’t appear (except Bob) until a moderator clears them, which in the case of Martyn usually occurs early in the morning, around lunch time and in the evening, plus other random times if he isn’t too busy. If he’s busy, on holiday or otherwise committed, the moderation schedule goes out the window and regular commentators start getting twitchy after around 8 to 10 hours of their comments not appearing. If it goes on longer, people start worrying, calling for welfare checks or that a conspiracy is in play. Fun times, eh. Oh, and Bert do your colleagues at the hospital know what you get up to?
Bert you are an amusing fellow.
“if it weren’t for you meddling kids!”
Your words, not mine.
It’s a quote from Scooby-Doo, it’s what the villains often say when they are unmasked. It amused me, you get so worked up, then so rude & off topic, has me worried you might head down to a pizza shop with an AR, to “save the children”. By the way, I’m not Bob, unless you mean in a Twin Peaks way, then maybe I am Bob, believe what you like, it’s kinda funny.
Christ you talk a lot of shit Bob Peach.
But I guess comments related to Scooby Doo shows your maturity, to that end, one can only feel sorry for you. My thoughts go out to you and to those that surround you.
The quote was aimed at your level Bert, for your big “reveal”. Cheers, Definitely Not Bob (well at least not Bob the First, I stopped using the “Bob” identity when there started being too many of them here).
Bert is truly disgusting.
Gosh Blobby, that is nasty, what a vile comment,
FP. Fucking Pathetic.
No one is below your level, perhaps your reflection, Bob.
Bert another jumble of words that don’t make sense.
Bert is English your first language?
do you find it confusing Bob! all these silly names – n’er mind the content eh Bob! you’re not like the bob on black adder – in drag Bob! was clever.
MM from where did you emerge?Content?Excuse me?Black Adder?
Blobby another jumble of words that don’t make sense.
BE you are guilty of always being off topic.
Nonsensical rambling.
Gosh Countryboy you have been canceled by a pedophile, so much for free speech!
Dear oh dear Bert.
In your case boy oh boy Bob.
Short comments…
… get published.
… instantly!
really are a…
Long comments…
… get censored…
… by the moderators.
really…
Dumb..
You..
Ah I see country boy has been converted to brevity,at last.
You are silly Blob
Give the man a peach 😉
Give Bert a plum.
I looked up and it seems your type like plums Bob
Looked up?Where?
Looked up your schooling background of Dulwich. Your profile does not read well. Pedophilia, and lack of intellect are common traits out of that school.
Really?
You obviously didn’t look up anything.
not sure what you whinging conservatards are going on about. a few more bucks at the supermarket. give it a rest – the banks are earning record profits and so are many other successful businesses. personally, I’ve never had it better. is the lordbaron’s boot a bit rough for your tongues today?
To say TPM represents all Maori is like Shaneel Lal represents all Trans. Most people in both groups want to get on with their lives and don’t like the drama of the activists.
The other side are looking at their kids and grandkids being legally second class citizens ( see Mcnulty). Most people will fight as hard as it takes to protect family .
They see this election as their last chance to stop the revolution
Going to get very nasty
Well said. T
The fact that very few Maori actually support TPM (rough numbers in my head, they’re polling at 3.5% with a base of 17.5% of the population means that they only have 20% support within Maori) sort of throws out their argument that they speak for Maori, they don’t.
Yet, they keep telling us we need to listen to them, why? They don’t even have a mandate from the people they perpetuate to champion?
go TPM – love the rhetoric – revolutionary stuff that puts the conservative narrative on edge – I’m all for that and exposing the middle for what it is. A sunken souffle. I mean who wants to be middle at anything.
The Greens like being middle,no responsibility.
Silly comment.
What’s that Boomer?
A column made up of coulds, mights, shoulds and maybes to keep hope alive in the political Left.
It’s pretty tired now Chris casting any criticism of proposals to disenfranchise a swathe of the NZ electorate as ‘thinly disguised racism’. Taking most of my vote away is racist in the extreme. In their revanchism and their ingratiation TPM and Labour have proven clearly who the real offenders are.
The LGTMP sounds and looks like another one of those terrible acronyms like the alphabet peoples with the t on the end of it.
Look, lil ole NZ couldn’t organise a fast food order at MDs in a hurry at the drive-thru.
Chaos is a good thing. It brings opportunity and a chance to change things. But you have to be able to see the opportunity to be able to do that. That’s another thing kiwi don’t got. Vision!
You have to accept Chris, the world is changing and rapidly so. Adapt or die. Accept that things are going to chance and then figure out what it is you want. I think that’s the part we haven’t got to yet. We’re still fighting over the scraps that have fallen off the table.
Chaos is good!
So ‘coalition of chaos’ originated from Matthew Hooton?
Didn’t think Luxon had the inventiveness of such a phrase when he uttered it.
Sounds very Hootonish to me and no way Luxon coined it.
No one denies the climate
Well yes, they do. CC otherwise known as GreenWash’n. Its BS.
Consumption is the enemy! But the CC retards deny this even though it’s the most obvious cause and solution! People need to reduce their consumption and that will slow down the ‘machine’ that destroys the environment, depletes finite resources and kills off manufacturing etc, etc …
Remember, the northern hemisphere is the largest land mass and has the largest population which is responsible for 89%+ of the destruction by their consumption of the planet. That’s where the debate needs to start and end.
Lil Old NZ with its lamearse contribution of less than 0.017% or around 83m tonnes is not worth us being in the first division of cosplay artists GreenWashers. It’s a scam!
The anthropogenic climate change emergency theory is tenuous at best.
But there are many benefits if a green transition can create easier access to power for those locked into poverty and lower income jobs.
That raises the question as to why our government is not investing in domestic solar but chooses to reward the wealthy when they buy aspirational vehicles like a Tesla’s.
“Cosplay artists” – Love it!
“If the Left is smart…”
They wouldn’t be in the predicament they are in now.
The right aren’t smart.
Right considerably more smart,beyond debate.
Your delusions require medication Robert, either that or you are the thickest fuck going around. Sadly, you are both.
Left undoubtedly greater intellect, always have been, always will be.
Prove it, I dare you?
Given I’m considerably smarter than you Blob, your comment fell over before the first hurdle.
Ok Nurse Bert.
Your welcome pedophile Bob.
Bert, I ask again, is English your first language?
Yes he’s a whinging unionist from the UK isles.
Bert are you a whinger?
This is how politics in NZ have been framed and experienced for the last 23 years.
It is the nature of MMP.
Political commentators use political prose to paint their pictures and dull is not a winner and gets little attention.
TDB will splatter blood over the pictures they paint for effect.
The mainstream media will throw storm debris and use images of flooding at us to demonstrate Climate Emergency and tell us how crops are failing and lives are lost while statistics continue to show that suffering for the average human is becoming more tolerable and prosperity for the average human is improving.
We are raising more tax than ever, have the choice to increase taxes on the wealthy and decrease the tax on those struggling on low incomes. What we choose will reflect in the outcomes that we create.
This is how legal firearms ownership is framed, so now we have no choice but to vote for ACT in the hope they’ll return some sense to the legislation & it’s application…
Firearms: You can not put a positive spin on a firearms related story. Firearms must be referred to as weapons at all times, even if they are purely hunting or sporting equipment. Never point out that the “firearms” involved were toys, replicas or airguns. All firearms related stories must be accompanied by a file photo of a semi-automatic pistol or assault rifle, preferably black & scary looking, even if it is in no way relevant or related to the actual firearm used. Photos of heavily armed Police officers with pistol & assault rifles can also be used, even if not relevant. Use as many of the following adjectives, even if they are incorrect or not relevant: semi-auto, deadly, high-powered, powerful, machine gun, armor-piercing, assault, high-capacity, lethal, dangerous, automatic. If in doubt, make something up. Truth is not important, selling fear is. All articles must include a quote from Chris Cahill.
Also, under no circumstances can you write an article railing against the pathetically weak sentences handed down to armed criminals, using illegal firearms to threaten, rob, wound, murder or otherwise cause mayhem. These criminals are just victims of an uncaring society, and need support & understanding, not additional punishment. Life has punished them enough already. Plus they justify increased law enforcement budgets & powers, so leave them alone & focus on the real danger, law-abiding citizens with firearms.
I do not like guns.
I was disappointed when the licensing “officer” interrogated me when I told him that the person who applied for the license should never be allowed to get anywhere near a fire arm.
We need laws that control the ownership of fire arms and hold owners to account.
We had those, but instead of following their rules & procedures, the Police chose to give Tarrant a firearms licence and sign off on many of his firearms & ammunition purchases. Now we have a mess that penalizes the law-abiding & arms criminals, so I’m forced to vote for ACT to try and change this.
Yes – if the disenfranchised can be convinced not to vote then the right wing parties usually succeed at election time. Conversely, if they can be motivated to vote, then the centre-left coalition have a chance.
Disenfranchised? Or did you mean the disenchanted?
Because no one has lost the right to vote.
Disenfranchised:
– Not having the right to vote, or a similar right, or having had that right taken away.
– Having no power to make people listen to your opinion or to affect the society you live in.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/disenfranchised
Capital talks – bullshit walks.
Capital talks, politicians listen.
Corrupt rightwing politicians
All politicians, why do you think Labour does so little to help the little people?
The only little person Labour helps is Andrew Little, and only because he is one of the few Labour MPs with even a hint of competence.
capital talks pollies crawl
Yes the Labour Government’s b s demands they should walk.
Thank you Chris for another well presented analysis. Your reward seems scant judging by the comments but hopefully many people read and then think on the issues you raise.
if LINOs had achived anything other than press conferences on the ‘todays issue’ but they havn’t so are open to charges of chaos
At least they have found $4b in their budgets to reallocate.
The state sector is waiting anxiously to see more of this money dropping into their bank accounts.
Then you will see them educate, nurse, doctor, police and secure…..
Note: These funds were never badly targeted or allocated as claimed by the opposition. It was just misplaced by Jacinda in a safe place and then found by Hipkins. Thank goodness!
Chaos is being polite,the Labour Government have been and still are guilty of abandoning their duty,abandoning all New Zealanders.
As the current Ford ad on TV says; If you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always got”, so it is with our so-called democracy. It’s a sham, a game of smoke and mirrors in which a choice of diverse political parties, touted as epitomizing democracy’s highest ideals, actually mitigates against them ever being realized. Polarizing people into vested interest groups, that’s not democracy – that’s anarchy. And that’s just how our system likes it – divide and rule. And as this and other worthy writers worry away at their word processors, the system laughs in their face. That this website needs to exist is itself an example of how the system controls and corrals the narrative. To paraphrase whoever said it; “It’s the system stupid!”
@ CT. I’ve been thinking about your Post. Just a couple more wee things. Nothing much really.
“Paradoxically, it could be the Right’s crazy-screaming-horror campaign against the “Coalition of Chaos”.”
MMP was dropped on us by the newbie and rampant neoliberal fascist AKA Jim Bolger and was, and still is, a mechanism to cause chaos. Divide to concur and all that.
“Strategic voting under MMP took place during the 1996 New Zealand general election when Richard Prebble contested the Wellington Central (New Zealand electorate) for ACT New Zealand.”
This is interesting for those of you, myself included, didn’t know, or can no longer remember.
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/keyword/mmp
Also:
“If the Left is smart,…” What Left is left? I don’t see Left and Right politics anywhere here. All I see is unplugged fascist capitalism. The crimes that crawled out of neoliberalism, or user pays, or what ever one feels comfortable with labeling [it] isn’t political at all. Nothing about roger douglas’s neoliberalism or thatcherism or reaganism etc is democratically political. Sure, the proponents of neoliberalism can use advertisers and lobbyists to use Professor Stanley Milgram’s high tech head fuckery to convince people to behave enthisiastically in a manner that’s not in their best interests, and I do believe that more time and effort should be spent annalysing that phenomenon.
All and every political party currently heading to the polls isn’t groups of people veying to do their best by, and for us. So long as we have un-elected foreign owned banks and multi-billionaire opportunists who’ve quite literally stolen our wealth, the wealth we all built with our taxes then we have no politic at all. We just have an advertisers telling us lies and they’ve done such a good job of it, it’s all we can do but in their lies.
I could write a book about why instead of whimpering in our homes we should be raging in the streets.
We’ve been, and are being, completely and totally head fucked, pardon the vernacular.
Actually, I have to contest some of this as I was there and I hated National back then. To to be fair, Jim Bolger didn’t want MMP and wanted to retain FFP. He seemed to resent the referendum actually.
In 1993 Generation X had been fucked by the ’87 sharemarket crash & neoliberal politics. I was made redundant twice before I was 22. We had some good smaller parties who couldn’t gain any traction and proportional representation seemed to be the answer.
My Leftie self supported MMP and pushed all my friends to vote for it, as did others. We didn’t envision the problems it would cause… everybody deserves a voice & all that.
We should have gone with STV (there was a choice).
To be fair the Labour party and connection with the greens is chaos. How will this improve with a third party if they cannot do it now as two parties?
RE short answer,they can’t.
Compared to the two corrupt parties of ACT and National chaos will win everytime.
All parties are corrupt. Rest is conjecture.
Back up the bus. What has Labour achieved in the past 5 and a half years on the big items, housing, health, education, transport, inequity, homelessness, water quality, law and order? On these items it campaigned in 2017, broadly, we’ve gone backwards!
In 2020, they didn’t really stand for much more than finishing the job free of the NZ First hand brake. Well they got an absolute majority and still what did they achieve? Not much of anything but eye watering government debt from spend ups that appear to have achieved little.
I voted for them, both times and am truly disappointed and would say probably they are the most inept government in history. I have seen no indication under Hipkins that anything is different.
As for the things not campaigned on, co-governance, meaning 3 Waters as some obscure extreme bureaucratic solution apparently to water quality, these have seen race relations plummet.
So the petty identity politics male hating woke navel gazing Greens or the race party TPM aside, how is voting for the “left” going to benefit this country again?
Chris, thinly-disguised racism, climate-change denial, doesn’t describe National and act to me. Firstly National aren’t against being in coalition with the Maori party. They are against being in Coalition with this Maori party. Who can blame them. IMO this Maori party is the more racist of those two. As for the greens, their climate aspirations have been neutered by Labour so they are ineffective and MD seems to have racial issues of her own to sort out so unless you were always going to vote for them why would anybody start now. I wouldn’t describe the idea of a L, TMP,Green coalition as Chaotic. I would describe Labour as being useless, and the other two as thoroughly unlikeable.
Thank you!! That is a wondrous piece of satire.
All National and ACT have to do is point out the bloody, multi-dimensional mess the country is now in, then compare it to the stability and national progress we had under Key.
“the stability and national progress we had under Key.”
We have a nice new white suit waiting for you Andrew, it buttons up at the back.
I bet Key had a good stable grip of that waitress.
I love how Key progressed home ownership to include living in cars and health infrastructure that included water running down Hospital walls,
Geez Andrew, you are a very, very warped soul.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1110/S00207/john-key-admits-to-lying.htm
https://e2nz.org/2014/08/21/the-big-list-of-john-keys-lies/
Impoverished Maori escape poverty by getting an education or trade (and then possibly moving to Australia to get a decent wage). The other alternative is joining a gang & dealing drugs. Most will never escape because of the way the system works.
One of those groups of people is more likely to vote than the other, but who will they vote for? Once you have affluence & a comfortable life, would you vote to dismantle the system that gave you those gifts? If the system hates you, will you participate in it’s meaningless rituals, knowing nothing will change?
I’m not sure what you are up to Free Peach – seem too laid-back cynical and sardonic. We are talking about us peeps here, not an Oscar Wilde play. Some humour and irony yes.
Not flitting around taking pot shots at silly old human systems that have obvious holes in them that peeps deliberately ignore; no way to run an election discussion.
You are too much like a butterfly, not even a monarch good to look at, but more like a large cabbage white one that I yearn to take a tennis racket to but it’s too quickly past. I think your approach is unhelpful free peach and I want weightier thoughts that don’t float off in the air like bad smells.
Just doing my job, keeping the world safe for freedom & democracy.
Great slogan. Sounds like what a USA think tank might say. What would be your primary thoughts for keeping ….?
Not by voting for the right bloc Peach. You are voting for a dictatorship.
I’ve already told you, I’m not voting for Labour or the Greens.
Actuallyyou say a hell of a lot nothing site most of it sarcastic.No, you are voting the right bloc, a dictatorship through and through.
Gus voting and dictatorship are opposites.
I note your grammar is worse than Bert’s.
We live in a democracy & are generally free as such, it is my job to protect that. A National/ACT Government would be very far removed from a dictatorship, maybe you should do some research into what a dictatorship actually is.
I think Free Peach’s comments are pretty consistent.
The butterfly analogy does not apply IMO.
Steadfast as a donkey may well apply.
That is republican mascot…… Hope you do not support Trump, Free peach. That will be a paradox.
I am the butterfly, beware the flap of my wing…
Oh, and yuck to Trump.
Sting like a bee.
Definitely no Cassius Clay, I was thinking of a different, more weather related, reference.
” “THE COALITION OF CHAOS ”
Pretty much sums up whatever government we get post October 14 and the the next three years.
After the current performance of the rich mans spare party , the former principled Greens changing into what we see now and the Maori party that cant even abide by the rules of parliament is one choice or the Nasties who only exist to represent their wealthy donors and evil arrogant supporters who want to continue rigging and corrupting the country to ensure their interests are protected by imposing severe austerity on their Kiwi countryman and women and their children and believe that this country is their own personal kingdom.
Chaos is here right now and will only become more and more desperate as the wealthy and privileged have to retreat to their secure gated communities as the anger and desperation continues for so many desperate people relegated as third class citizens.
You didn’t mention New Zealand First. lol
You want a 4-way coalition? NZF got too badly burned by Labour.
Trotter is voting for them because they are the only party he can stomach that champions free speech – when it suits Winston of course.
This morning at 7:26 am Stuff Author Steve Kilallon lists Te Pāti Maori coalition demands
“No GST on food, no monarchy, tax the rich: Te Pāti Māori’s demands for coalition” Steve Kilgallon 07:26, May 12 2023
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132012971/no-gst-on-food-no-monarchy-tax-the-rich-te-pti-moris-demands-for-coalition
Just over an hour later, at 8:05 am, instead of evaluating Te Pāti Māori substantive position on GST and taxing the rich, leading Labour Party activist Greg Presland, (AKA MICKYSAVAGE) gives his automatic Labour Party kneejerk response.
Greg Presland deliberately leaves out Te Pāti Māori flagship policies above, instead listing 12 Te Pāti Māori policies not mentioned anywhere in the Stuff report by Steve Kilgallon.
Lying by omission.
Deliberately not addressing the main social justice demands of Te Pāti Māori, The Standard author Mickysavage is taking a page straight out of the National Party racist scare playbook.
“What Do The Maori Party Want Anyway?” By: MICKYSAVAGE – Date published: 8:05 am, May 12th, 2023
https://thestandard.org.nz/what-do-the-maori-party-want-anyway/#comment-1949509
The options for Left leaning and Centre voters is clear, vote Labour or National for Business as Usual.
Vote Te Pati Maori for social justice.
Social justice?
You don’t understand the concept of social justice?
Really? That’s pretty incredible.
Social justice is the opposite of social injustice. Does that help?
Maybe I should explain it to you in simple terms with links to some facts to help you to a better understanding of the concept of social justice.
Social justice; Majority of the people own the majority of the wealth.
Social injustice; Minority of the people own the majority of the wealth.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/world-s-richest-1-percent-own-twice-as-much-as-bottom-90-percent
Social justice; Rich people pay more tax than the rest of us.
Social injustice; Rich people pay only half as much tax as the rest of us.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/488705/wealthiest-paying-tax-at-much-lower-rate-than-most-other-new-zealanders-ird-report#:~:text=An%20Inland%20Revenue%20investigation%20has,to%20provide%20their%20earnings%20information.
But really Bob, there is no excuse for your incomprehension. Even some rich people get it.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/group-of-rich-new-zealanders-want-to-pay-more-tax/TGEQJBXMOVDKNDJHGQDNFHHF7I/
That’s ridiculous and I think you know it.
Social justice or injustice is subjective.
Who will not support “no GST on food, no monarchy” and tax settings that will address need better than our current settings.
Sign me up!
Vote Left for chaos. The choice is clear.
Vote right for corruption, that’s a certainty.
“In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity”
― Sun-Tzu, A Arte da Guerra
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/659546-in-the-midst-of-chaos-there-is-also-opportunity
eg Every situation creates an opportunity for a wise quote!
Sun Tzu is correct, why do think the banks & supermarkets are making record profits, big business loves disasters too, plenty got rich after the quakes in Christchurch.
Yesterday Greg Presland didn’t want to talk about the Te Pāti Māori social justice reforms, today Cristopher Luxon doesn’t want to talk about Te Pāti Māori social justice reforms.
Neither National or Labour want to form a coalition government with Te Pāti Māori if it means having to address social injustice and inequality.
Evidentially both Labour and National don’t even want to talk about the social justice reforms raised by Te Pāti Māori.
At a media conference called by Christopher Luxon, at which the National Party leader accused Te Pāti Māori of grandstanding and ruled them out as coalition partners, Luxon, too, wanted the focus shifted.
Anna Whyte, Stuff.co.nz 05:00, May 13 2023
So Greg Presland and Labour are not the only one that want to shift the focus away from Te Pāti Māori social justice reforms for forming a coalition government.
Greg Presland’s attempt to shift the focus away from Te Pāti Māori social justice demands for forming a government, have been joined by National’s Christopher Luxon.
Luxon angrily demanded the media shift their focus away from the possibility of him being forced into the uncomfortable position (for National), of having to negotiate with Te Pāti Māori over social justice reforms if they want to form a government.
“What New Zealanders need right now is none of this stuff, none of this stuff that’s been happening over the last week.’’
When a reporter later asked if it would make his job harder to pull the numbers to form a government, Luxon bafflingly replied, “I know you guys want to talk about that stuff.
Anna Whyte, Stuff.co.nz 05:00, May 13 2023
Labour and National don’t want to talk about “that stuff”. But we do.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132023807/parliament-full-of-fingerpointing-grandstanding-as-the-reality-of-climate-change-bites
People have been relegated to third class by a Labour Government that abandoned its responsibilities.
Let the Wooing of The Woke begin…
Sun Tzu is correct, why do think the banks & supermarkets are making record profits, big business loves disasters too, plenty got rich after the quakes in Christchurch.
“There has been a disturbance in the force.”
Both Labour and National’s neoliberal certainty has been challenged.
Labour Party Leader Chris Hipkins tries to scare the electorate away from voting Te Pati Moari by saying he will not agree with Te Pati Maori coalition terms, to remove GST from food, or tax the rich or form a truely independent foreign policy free from the British Crown and US military nuclear and spying pacts like AUKUS and 5 Eyes.
“Smaller parties, I think, need to be careful with whatever they issue in terms of ‘bottom lines’ or they could find themselves simply not able to be part of any governing arrangement at all,” Chris Hipkins
With this above statement Chris Hipkins is threatening the electorate that he will let National and Act form a coalition government before he would form a coalition government that had to agree to help New Zealanders with the cost of living by removing GST off food.
With this above statement Chris Hipkins is threatening the electorate that he will let National and Act form a coalition government before he would form a coalition government that had to agree to increase taxes on the rich to pay their fair share.
With this above statement Chris Hipkins is threatening the electorate that he will let National and Act form a coalition government before he would form a coalition government that had to agree to New Zealand having a truly independent foreign policy, free of nuclear and spying pacts.
Chris Hipkins tells Māori Party to be ‘careful’ with policy demands Glenn McConnell, Stuff.co.nz 16:01, May 12 2023
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132027968/chris-hipkins-tells-mori-party-to-be-careful-with-policy-demands
Te Pāti Māori has issued its list of coalition demands, but Prime Minister Chris Hipkins looks to be calling their bluff…..
Calling their bluff can only be by threatening to let National ACT govern. Pretty disgusting stuff from the Labour Party Leader.
If we want Hipkins and the Labour Party to take seriously the Left wing demands raised by Te Pati Maori, contrary to what Hipkins wants, the biggest left vote possible that can’t ignore must be delivered to Te Pati Maori.