The last two polls should worry National.
Roy Morgan had tham at 35.5 while Taxpayer’s Union Curia Poll had them at 34%.
These are both down from the highs Luxon’s Honeymoon had projected the into of 40% and 39%.
It follows after Luxon’s Te Puke via Hawaii blunder and his constant u-turn blunders where he gets caught out on detail that underpins his justifications for change.
His desire to punish teenage beneficiaries misread the middle and his flakiness under the big ball always underwhelms.
I think Jacinda will smash him during the campaign. Despite some of the worst media and press they’ve received since coming to power alongside extreme economic problems looming, Labour are still solid mid 30s, that’s extraordinary.
I think National’s ceiling is 35%, their challenge is to stop ACT being in double figures while trying to win the middle, something they are finding very difficult to achieve.
Worst case scenario for National is an ACT at 15%, that leaves National in the very low 30s.
I think David Seymour will be dazzling on the campaign trail despite his race war inducing conflict politics.
The rapid polarisation of NZ politics means there isn’t much middle left for National to hollow out with empty words and false promises, a truth Labour are finding our right now.
National and ACT won’t be able to get to 51% on their own, they will need NZ First getting over 5% or the TOP leader winning Ilam and bringing in a few MPs off the coat tailing.
Remember, Luxon was elected not because he was the best candidate, but because Judith Collins hate club pack voted against Simon Bridges.
That is becoming clearly apparent now.
Luxon will be removed as leader if National doesn’t win the next election.
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The truth is that this country can not afford Adern and her band of simpletons at the wheel for another 3 years.
Luxon may we’ll be crap but I’m sorry but at this point simply ANYTHING is better than Adern. I would earnestly welcome back Muldoon if it were the only way to rid us of Adern.
Yes Jays, the next election is a depressing prospect. As I see it, NZ has some serious problems that only a genuine left-wing government is likely to make a dent in – we have a growing underclass racked by poverty, family dysfunction, educational underachievement and crime. But the Ardern government has proved unwilling or unable to tackle these problems in earnest. So they need to be ejected at the next opportunity, because they are actively exacerbating another suite of problems – the capture of our institutions by woke identity politics, and the resulting fragmentation of NZ society. In the present age, only a right-wing government is likely to address this second suite of problems in earnest, because the contemporary left is besotted with identity politics. But the problem for NZ voters is there is no serious conservative party in this country. National are the party of business, and business is increasingly woke. ACT are classical liberals, not conservatives, and I’m no fan of their economic policies. But at least the current leadership of ACT will have no truck with race-based policies, and has put forward the sensible idea of abolishing the identity-based ministries.
Pope Punctilious II, But at least the current leadership of ACT will have no truck with race-based policies, and has put forward the sensible idea of abolishing the identity-based ministries.
What is these Race Based Policies?????
National won’t rule out Act policy that would see ministries axed
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/10/national-wont-rule-out-act-policy-that-would-see-ministries-axed/
Under Act’s alternative budget released this week, it would abolish the Māori Development Minister, Ministry for Pacific Peoples, Ministry for Women, Ministry for Ethnic Communities, and the Human Rights Commission.
But Stephen….wait, there’s more!
13 months till 2023 NZ election – The Daily Blog full 360 degree battlefield special By Martyn Bradbury -September 11, – ACT are good for 10%-15% on plus 1 electorate on Election Day.2022
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/09/11/14-months-till-2023-nz-election-the-daily-blog-full-360-degree-battlefield-special/
ACT are good for 10%-15% on plus 1 electorate on Election Day.
That’s just the start…
Cut and freeze the Minimum wage
Interest back on all student loans
No Kiwsaver subsidy
Cancel winter energy payment
Dump all climate crisis legislation
no more best start payments for families with new borns
cut welfare payments
no tax credits for research and development
cuts to working for families
$7b a year cut in public services
Abolish Maori seats
Oh and ankle bracelets on [predominantly deprived Maori children], don’t forget that!
This is Romper Stomper Hard Right insanity that makes Qanon look reasonable and because there is no way National can win without ACT, every vote to National empowers ACT.
Careful for what you wish for Stephen
BJ King.
Have no idea what that drawn out rant means.(please don’t explain)
Keep up Dulwich.
Too many syllables for you Robert?
Yeah thought you were full of shit!!
Even Muldoon???
You ARE lost.
It’s OK, Jays, when you vote your hapless FARQ and VFF, Destiny and the 4 Umbrellas, you’ll get what you deserve.
And it will be way worse than Muldoon, or the Ruth Richardson years.
An alliance of my namesake Luxon, Seymour, Tamaki, Winston, New Conservatives, White Power Arps and Alp.
An ungovernable shit-show of epic proportions, God help us all.
What’s more interesting is Jacinda hasn’t done anything scandalous herself. Sure she’s surrounded by scandal but she’s remained steady in her convictions.
We can’t give up someone like Jacinda just cause her party is full of shit cunts. The whole parliament is loaded with shit cunts!
You’ll need better reasons than trauma amulets to roll Jacinda. Not happening.
Jacinda has done heaps wrong…
Here’s just one example,
Hopefully contributers can pro ide more examples for you.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/08/the-prime-minister-on-one-news-last-night-telling-a-huge-porky/#comment-604447
– she unilateratley announced what effectively is a shutdown down of NZ oil and gas, which we workers need to survive.
– promised to fix homelessness, poverty, housing etc… Essentially ignorant lies,
– the biggest thing she and the Labour Party did wrong is turning up for a job so so woefully unprepared….
What did they do for 9 years…?
Nothing?
No prep?
You may well be correct.
What astonishes me is how anyone could vote Labour?
They have not fulfilled their election promises the wealthy are wealthier and the poor poorer.
To deliver for the people struggling we need a strong economy and Labour are incapable of doing that.
I’m a strong advocate for helping those that are struggling.
For some reason many on the left think those on the right don’t care.That’s wrong.
What a silly post, simply stupid.
No reason to vote National so the wealthy can be wealthier and the poor poorer then is there?
But Peter that’s exactly what Labour have done?
Largest transfer of wealth to the wealthy under their time in office.
So far removed from the truth, hell even Pinocchio is calling you out bullshit Bob.
So Bert the TDB is wrong?
It’s where the biggest transfer of wealth originated!
Obviously you don’t read Martyn Bradley,Chris Trotter or John Minto?
Funny that when you disagree with TDB they are wrong, when you agree, I am wrong. The trouble is Pinocchio Bob once you start a lie you continue to lie to cover your lies.
Sorry but that word jumble is just that a jumble.
I am sure there are people “on the right” that care Bob. Question is what does that have to do with anything National have said in terms of ideas? I have heard tax cuts that don’t help, attacking minimum wage increases, “bottom feeders”, and the classic ambulance at the bottom of the cliff…’tough on crime’ especially for youth (rather than any real acknowledgement of the factors that lead to it). Completely agree Labour are putting band aids on gaping wounds but National will use the same first aid kit, at best, and ACT will probably go for amputation.
Accept your points Wheel.
Should it?
I’m not voting for the Nats but Labour is a tragedy.
If the government doesn’t change on the appalling track record of the current shitshow then there will be many people leaving these shores and no, NZ or even Aotearoa will not be better off.
I feel your votes for VFF, or FARQ, or Destiny and the 4 Horsemen of the Umbrellas, will be wasted KCC.
One of Labour’s biggest problems is that they continue to underwhelm, if not atually disappoint, almost everywhere you look. I wish it were different, but it’s not. it is a long time (in politics ) until the election, plenty of time for more wheels to fall off and for some opposition party to be gifted a stick with which they can inflict damaging beatings which might be what causes more voters to abandon Labour. Also, still time for them to pull off something truly progressive though, eh? How likely is that, given the record of the last five years?
Just a question on delivery or lack of.
Who promised to build a new hospital in Dunedin and didn’t and who promised to build it and is?
indeed steve ‘we’re not quite as crap as national’ isn’t a very inspiring t-shirt
If enough people wore one, though, it might shame them into doing…. oh, never mind.
“Less nuttier than FARQ, VFF, Destiny and the 4 Horsemen of the Umbrellas”, could be a good slogan for National or ACT.
“More popular than National and ACT” could be a good slogan for FARQ, VFF, Destiny and the 4 Horsemen of the Umbrellas.
Win-win slogans for the far-cough-right!
interesting picture on the papers, all I see is a big dick.
its a metaphor 5cw.
a life size metaphor
It’s clearly meant to be an insult.
Childish.
Bob the First, you are the expert on making childish insults.
Gosh MJ you flatter me yet again using my expressions.
Thankyou.
They will win if they replace Luxon with Willis…she is competent and savvy and women like her.
Evidence of said competence and savvy?
The way she handles the…press.
Agree Blazer.
National tried with Luxon, and they have given him “a good go”, but Luxon’s gaffs are making Todd Muller look like a better choice of National leader.
Willis would be excellent as National leader.
Then it would be an election around a competent woman leader on a competent woman leader for PM in 2023.
If it’s going to happen, it needs to be sooner than later. Nicola needs a chance to lift National’s fortunes in the polls again, after the huge dips because of Luxon’s ineptitude thinking that the plebs don’t know the difference between Te Puke or Hawaii.
Plus, Luxon misread the need to have an ultra-right-winger like Brian Tamaki and his 5%ers as a coalition partner and took a week to re-neg on his possible lay-down-mazir coalition
Lol Willis comes across as vile, crusher 2.0. She’s been hiding lately though since Luxon became leader, but make no mistake, she is a vile snake and will have a collection of knives sharpened and at the ready. But you might like that sort…
Agreed sinic, to make matters worse she’s a screecher. If she had anything to say no one can hear it. The amount of ” withdraw and apologise” she has had to say under the softer speaker of the house speaks volumes.
Yes agree she’s challenging idiotic policies of Labour or more to the point Labours lack of policy.
Childish, you are simply childish Bob.
Read above bert.
Apart from having BA from McDonalds, BTF has a BS in childish insults. Legend BTF!
A multi-talented right-wing-syruper BTF. You really should ask for a rise in your Tory shill payments. You can use bert and Mike as referees BTF. We’ll both attest to what a childish Pratt you are, a prerequisite for moving up through the Slater Scale.
Good luck BTF
This is the school BTF so proudly professes to have gone to school at Mike…
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/secondary/4199072-Dulwich-College-a-breeding-ground-for-sexual-predators#:~:text=Dulwich%20College%20is%20today%20accused%20of%20being%20a,of%20assault%2C%20harassment%20and%20sharing%20intimate%20photos%20online.
Even more flattery.
Thankyou my devout followers.
Your results are back Bob. Delusional and clearly thought disordered to add to your Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Thanks Bert.
Typical right-wing Nat-troll Bob,
“…me, me, me, it’s all about me! Tax cuts for me, more wealth for me, sell off assets!”
Martyn
Fact is, the country needs a lot of the ACT type policies to fix some of the sit going down right now. Lots of their ideas are very practical…and will stop the habit of spend spend spend spend spend spend…on fuck all.
Sour Kraut, Seymour like using racial talking points like ‘race based’ ‘practicing apartheid’ to get the bigoted Pakeha on board and you knowit as I do that there are plenty of them (yous) in our country.
His dog whistling isn’t new in our politics which has been around since we’ve had an elected parliament in our country. Sounds like ‘woke identity politics’ don’t yah think?
Yes race baiting is used extensively by all parties particularly the Greens.
You mean like these policies Sour Kraut?
National won’t rule out Act policy that would see ministries axed
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/10/national-wont-rule-out-act-policy-that-would-see-ministries-axed/
Under Act’s alternative budget released this week, it would abolish the Māori Development Minister, Ministry for Pacific Peoples, Ministry for Women, Ministry for Ethnic Communities, and the Human Rights Commission.
But Stephen….wait, there’s more!
13 months till 2023 NZ election – The Daily Blog full 360 degree battlefield special By Martyn Bradbury -September 11, – ACT are good for 10%-15% on plus 1 electorate on Election Day.2022
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/09/11/14-months-till-2023-nz-election-the-daily-blog-full-360-degree-battlefield-special/
ACT are good for 10%-15% on plus 1 electorate on Election Day.
That’s just the start…
Cut and freeze the Minimum wage
Interest back on all student loans
No Kiwsaver subsidy
Cancel winter energy payment
Dump all climate crisis legislation
no more best start payments for families with new borns
cut welfare payments
no tax credits for research and development
cuts to working for families
$7b a year cut in public services
Abolish Maori seats
Oh and ankle bracelets on [predominantly deprived Maori children], don’t forget that!
This is Romper Stomper Hard Right insanity that makes Qanon look reasonable and because there is no way National can win without ACT, every vote to National empowers ACT.
Careful for what you wish for Sour Kraut
Gone quiet again Sour Kraut?
Feigning “…”No understandee zee Inglish?”
Your right-wing 2ic David Seymour wants to rip the heart out of a caring New Zealand.
I can understand your alt-right-wing reticence Sour Kraut!
National we’re an absolute disaster for New Zealand during their 9 years when last in power and the country was never ad divided as it was back then. How anyone could vote for them and take our country back decades is beyond me. Of course there are a few loyalists who don’t care and it is utterly false to believe a right wing government help the poor and socially compromised. The evidence is overwhelming.
It’s all perceptive Bert. National were so bad they kept getting re elected. If NZfirst hadn’t gone with labour it would have been a fourth term as National as a party won the majority. Labour have improved nothing in five years. Jacinda is a figurehead PM who speaks (lies) well. There will be another useless minority government next time whoever gets in. If Jacinda wins you can celebrate Bert but will you, Martyn and the rest of the left really be winners.
Let’s get one thing straight. Jacinda is a perfectly pleasant human being. No debate there. That’s where it ends unfortunately.
New View, tread very carefully on PM’s and lies or is that your perspective?
NZ First went with Labour because as Winston quite rightly said, neoliberalism National promoted had created a divided country, a have and have not society. National could not form a government under MMP, when will you learn.
Winston saw what Key stood for and didn’t want a 3-way with National and ACT.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/04/435-lies-by-john-key/
BJK. So what does Winston stand for. He’s changed sides with every election and this coming election would be no different. This is why I don’t like MMP. It’s meaningless as far as quality government is concerned.
Bert. Peter’s joined labour more out of spite in my opinion. If he chose Labour because he didn’t like neoliberalism and thought Labour would make real systemic change he got it very wrong. If NZ1st get 5% this time they will likely choose National out of spite also. No where here do I see anything good for the country. Just BS MMP. Same with the Greens and the Maori party. Big talking puppets. As for calling Jacinda a liar. If Luxon or in the past Key, broke a promise, back tracked on policy or used their oratory skills to avoid public scrutiny and transparency, you would be the first person to call them liars Bert. Because of that I’m not worried about your little tread carefully threat. Yes I don’t like MMP. To me It’s BS but I have to suck it up and put up with it.
See above BJ King above…
Good response New View, the only issue I take is I have never ever seen a post where you called out Key or Luxons lies, although Luxon hasn’t from what I’ve seen, he still has time. Thus the tread carefully comment.
Mmm Bert. I’m not sure I was posting here when key was in government. I think I posted at the standard until I was asked to leave. I’m sure you will correct me if I’m wrong. I’ll call out Luxon when and if he is PM and then lies I promise ok. I’ve called Key out for being asleep at the wheel in the last year of that Government. I try not dwell in the past too much Bert. It’s wasted energy. The real difference between you and me Bert is that I don’t care how bad any individual is. They’re all arseholes to a degree. What Shipley did in China etc, I couldn’t give a toss. What I do care about is what governments do and achieve. Key may be a slimy shit but in my opinion he ran a pretty good ship for 7 out of nine years. How many good years has this government given us.
3 out of 5 New view, so give them 9 years for a genuine comparison.
Gosh are you serious?
In 5 years they have all but destroyed our country and you want to give the 9 years!!
The country was burnt to the ground by the previous National govt, yet you congratulate them. And you want them back in!
Bert I don’t mind who is in so long as everyone is happy with where the country is heading and there’s enough money in the kitty. There’s reasonable doubt on both those issues. This time next year we’ll have a better idea on both those issues.
@ NewView Have a refresh of your memory of John Key’s lies.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/04/435-lies-by-john-key/
Bert as discussed on numerous occasions you are illiterate on most things but particularly economics and commerce.
GDP under National versus Labour?
@New+View “Key may be a slimy shit but in my opinion he ran a pretty good ship for 7 out of nine years.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/04/435-lies-by-john-key/
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/116485669/exair-nz-boss-christopher-luxon-keen-to-stand-for-national-party-in-botany
BTW New View, whatever happened to the 2 week enquiry into Sam Uffundell? Or is this just another ‘slimy shit’ Luxonism?
Neoliberalism National? You do know who gave neoliberalism to New Zealand right Bert?
No, you clearly dont. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Good attempt but pathetic as usual LanceyaBoyle.
To be sure, to be sure MickeyBoyle, but you really are showing your ignorance of ACT and National’s 30 year alliance, from at least 1993 to the present day. And the only reason they used Labour from 1984 to 1990, was because of National’s rogue dictator, Rob Muldoon.
You need to read Richard Prebble’s “I’ve been thinking” and realise that ACT and National have way more in common for 30 years than ACT and Labour EVER did for 6 years
So much so, that even a basic Wiki search will give you this:
“In 1993, Douglas co-founded the Association of Consumers and Taxpayers with Derek Quigley. Douglas and Quigley intended the Association to serve as a pressure-group promoting the Douglas economic policies”
Since then:
Don Brash (2011) leader of National and ACT
John Banks (2012–2014) leader of ACT and cup of tea with John Key
…to the present alliance between ACT’s David Seymour and successive National govts.
I know someone has told you this before MickeyBoyle. Don’t be thick and share this shit again.
But, selective memory goes hand in glove with you right-wingers. Tories – Margaret Thatcher, Roger Douglas, Ronald Reagan, Mikhail Gorbachev – right wingers sold off public assets to line the pockets of the wealthy and introduced GST to rob and economically suppress the poor even more.
MickeyBoyle: Neoliberalism National? You do know who gave neoliberalism to New Zealand right Bert?
And you definitely know who keeps it going in New Zealand from 1993 to the present now and into the future bert?
The current National Party and its unholy alliances, year after year with ACT…..
…… now you clearly know MickeyBoyle….you have the evidence …so….
Stop embarrassing yourself MickeyBoyle.
Douglas was a Labour minister, and Labour continue on with neoliberalism just as much as any other party.
But you keep trying to convince yourself that it was someone else’s fault lol.
You Irish aren’t renowned for your insight MickeyBoy.
6 Years ACT in Labour 1984 to 1990
32 years ACT WITH National 1990 to 2022
Simple Maths MickeyBoy
Can’t simplify it any simpler! I can’t draw a diagram for you in a blog. Ask your kids, if you have any to explain the Maths for this.
6 vs 32 (and still going)
Get your head out of your arse MB!
Yes MB the Lange Labour Government introduced neoliberalism.
BJK why didn’t/haven’t Labour Government’s since dumped neoliberalism?
They did , please keep up. Dulwich was for the slow learners, quite obviously. Even the school name sounds a bit slow.
When?
Google Dulwich.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9385657/Dulwich-College-breeding-ground-sexual-predators-claims-ex-pupil-open-letter.html
Not a great recommendation … but given your ideologies I guess there’s a school for everyone.
Joke of the week.
Thanks Bert I had a jolly good chuckle.
Well you are perverse.
Humens are strange people . We both lived and worked through Nationals 9 years and Labours 5 . Where as you saw disaster I saw mainly success now I see disaster and you see success.
I am sure that both of us have been let down by some of the the actions of our respective teams and for a time I found my team hard to support due to their leader but I am backing them again.
Interesting times but we can share our distain for Hoskings and anti vaxxers
National were a disaster yet all key metrics such as inequality, debt, inflation, emissions, housing affordability, gang numbers, hospital waiting times, elective surgery numbers, emergency response times and the social housing waiting list are considerably worse under this governments reign.
Jeez you’re a clever guy eh Bertie. Well done you!
Key metrics through stats N.Z. says you are a fuckwit, but then we knew that already. Well done you! Bahahahahaha!
Keep crying Bert, I love seeing it…
Yes MickeyBoyle, I’m crying tears of laughter at your hilarious lack of knowledge, bahahahahaha!
Yes MB the statistics are there,statistics often referred to on this site by the host.
Left to rot a good example.
Dulwich or Dulwich stats?
The “Dynamic Duo.”
The poor after 5 years are now more poor.
More lies.
When have you righties ever worried about the poor, except for having scapegoats to blame?
Yes, I think the word you are looking for BJ is, “hypocrites”.
We are effectively 12 months out from the election A LOT can happen during this time. Te Reo won’t win an election however elections are very rarely won. The covid election was an outlier.
Labour’s problem is a lack of delivery and the covid truth leaking out slowly.
After the Northland debacle they better hope another truth bomb doesn’t hit regarding Delta getting into the country.
There is plenty of time to go before the elections and these are unsettled times .Every day we we see the abject failure of Labour on so many fronts it is hard to believe they are so bad at running this great country. The homeless in Rotorua abused but Minister Woods dismiss their plight lawlessness as we have never seen so bad with gangs and young children lost to society.The possible lose of local power over water and buildings .
The normal voting public feel so let down by Jacinda and crew that they doubt themselves to choose another party in the fear they will not do a better job. It will be interesting to see how the right fair in the local elections which will give people a heads up of where the country is heading
They’re the fucking same ‘Lab rats’ and the ‘nasty Nats’ it’s a sham they both have their ‘PMC’ regiments ready to be slaves to the ruling class!!
Are these abject failures Trevor…
https://www.labour.org.nz/news-100_labour_achievements_2021
Ahhh Bert, from the Labour website, how very loyal of you!
MORE homeless than in 2017
MORE children in poverty than 2017
LESS houses built (notice you have never posted on the John Minto posts about the terrible housing figures…guess sometimes defending the indefensible becomes pointless, afterall the statistics and facts are against you (and Labour and St Jacinda)
I’m Right where do I find your stats, still looking…?
Can you deny any of these accomplishments? I didn’t think so but it suits your far right extremism not to promote left wing success. If you were a dog, you’d be a pit bull.
I guess you can’t take the mongrel out of the pit bull.
Don’t bother answering Im right bert.
He/she/they is/are too thick to:
(a)use an apostrophe in his pseudonym
(b)ever give any evidence to support his National Party shill comments.
(c) ……
….sorry bert, can’t be bothered with Im right, because he/she/they never is/are. Just another Cam Slater acolyte toxic Tory troll.
Is that you Michelle?
Is that you Cam?
Yes bert, im rightcould be Cam, but he isn’t interested in women, apart from rock-throwing practice.
Because, here’s what Cam and Zippy Williams, and by right-wing, DP association im right have written about women. What woman in their right (or left) minds would want to associate with these misogynist National and ACT Party slime of the worst order.:
January 10, 2013
————————-
Jordan Williams, 1/10, 10:11am
women; if they didn’t have a fanny between their legs they’d have a bounty on their heads…
…Cameron Slater, 1/10, 10:13am
if they didn;t have cunts we’d chuck rocks at them.
And these sad, policy-maker “influencers”, pond-scum specimens of National Party/ACT are representatives and poster boys for Dirty Politics.
Dirty Politics attack dogs, lifting their hind legs and pissing on women, and good-hearted, socially-responsible kiwis.
Pissing on Kiwis who care about fairness, kindness and those less fortunate than themselves. Pissing on kiwis who care about the planet and fresh drinkable water, with every post they make!
Pissing on Maori aspirations for turangawaewae, mokopuna, dignity, tāonga and tangata https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22703273
Cam Slater (National) and
Jordan Williams (Taxpayers Union) – anti-women, anti-Maori, anti-Kiwi-social-humanity.
Im right; Cam Slater; Jordan Williams: Pond-scum of the National Party
– Making National Lose Itself!
Go on … im right …keep having a go at me … I’ve had three children and have worked with psychiatric patients. None of your misogynistic filth, nor Zippy Jordan’s, nor Cam’s comes close to what I’ve been through.
You’re puerile little right-wing pissants, not worthy the time spent outlining your lack of pedigree. Right-wing haters.
Michelle, I was not aware those statements were made by Williams and Slater. They are the most appalling comments I have ever read.
Here you are bert. It’s not pretty reading, but indicative of the DPB (Dirty Politics Brigade)
https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2014/09/04/leaked-jordan-williams-and-slater-conversations-part-six/
Gosh a rendition of hate and envy.
Why are left wingers so unhappy?
Adding yourself to Im right, Cam Slater and Zippy Williams hall of infamy, Bob the First?
If you are, you need to rename yourself Bob the Worst. Another Dirty Politics Nat troll.
Because we have to put up with Nat-trolls like you Bob!
Yes I hate perversion but then you did go to Dulwich school Bob.
Fair call Mike.
OH BOY! I CAN’T WAIT FOR MORE EXPANSION OF FREE TRADE AND CLAIMS OF ‘INCREASES’ IN VARIOUS METRICS WHICH ARE NOT ADJUSTED FOR POPULATION OR INFLATION!
Funny the polls at least the last two don’t agree with all the Jacinda bashing on this site. All do we dis the polls or do we only dis them when National is not doing so good.
It’s only a handful of loyal right wing trolls who will bag Jacinda at the site of her name.
It is beyond belief that anyone could vote right in this day and age. You would have to be simple.
Sight.
*sigh* bobblehead
Agree Sinic, Bobblehead never makes spelling mistakes with preemptive text . Dulwhich/ Dulwich?
Seems his English upbringing was his undoing.
Sinic has to reduce himself to insults through lack of an argument.
Gosh Bob, do you need a cuddle?
Simple.
He is simple bert, but still worthy of being a Kiwi.
The proof of being a Kiwi is to back up what you say with evidence, rather than puerile sound-bites, or hate-bites.
If BTF gave some substance to his argument, he’d probably be OK.
But, between earning $21.50 per hour at McDonalds and a per-slag-off-shill payment, he’s under $$ pressure.
He hasn’t got time to get proof, and doesn’t get paid for substance, he lacks evidence and makes “simple”, trite comments.
But, the trolls don’t get paid their shill fee for proof, just the drip, drip, drip of negative trolling about Labour. Like a Mike Hosking record, stuck in an LP record scratch.
BTF – whiny little Dulwich Nat-troll
Gosh where did that incomprehensible scramble of words come from.
Why are right wingers so whinging?
Bob’s not good on polysyllables, othewise he’d be called Robert the First.
I bet he signs his name with a thumb-print, or an “X” bert!
Haha!
Extremely well written and only a moron couldn’t understand such articulation, oh wait here’s brainless Bob, BJ.
Great alliteration and assonance on the articulation for ‘brainless Bob’, bert.
I think 2023 will be the election of the rise of minor parties. ACT, TPM, and NZF will all do ok, and perhaps TOP. Don’t think a Christian/ antivaxx party will go far, the “optics” of how flakey they are, and coupled with a lack of economic policies, will have any sane voter not seriously considering them.
I think a lot of you want some sort of Kamikaze David Lange government to reverse the last 30 years. Sorry it just doesn’t exist.
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Then National and ACT, who have had a close alliance since 1990, need to pull back from it.
But they won’t because they are all about being mouthpieces for Rogernomics and have been joined at the hip, and neoliberal lip ever since 1990, till now. They’ll go on into the future. BJ King above gave a good history of the parasitic/symbiotic relationship between Banks, Brash Douglas and cups of tea between the two right wing scourge of NZ/AO.
Funny the polls at least the last two don’t agree with all the Jacinda bashing on this site. All do we dis the polls or do we only dis them when National is not doing so good.
Funny the polls at least the last two don’t agree with all the Jacinda bashing on this site. Or do we dis the polls or do we only dis them when National is not doing so good.
” Panic should be setting in for National ”
And LINO with its middle class managerial offspring if we could just drive down the two party neo liberal stranglehold.
No need to worry Mosa, Labour, or National won’t get in, according to two of the latest polls:
“VFF and FARQ off, the chart in Counterspin poll shows clear leaders” (Poll count: 503+/- 3 people):
Alp 52%; Arps 14%; David Seymour 12%; Jacob Chansley 13%; Hanna Spierer 6%; Trump: 6%; QAnon 7%)
“Destiny and the 4 horsemen of the Umbrella poll – Hannah Hallelujah” (God’s infinity polling +/- 3):
Hannah Tamaki 52%; the Four Horsemen of the Umbrellas 12% each.
Oh your polls are bulldust Polly!
Your first poll adds up to 110%. Even given a +/- 3 people swing, you can’t have 110% in a poll – polls don’t work like that!
And the second poll result, the Kantar poll http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/5/406289 said this:
“Less than 3 years later, Vision New Zealand recently polled 1.2% in the August 2022, Kantar TV1 Political Poll.
“While I was a little surprised that we polled, I am not shocked because we have been visible since the last election as we stood from day 1 against the Mandates.
You can’t jump from 1.2% to 52% in 12 days?
I suppose you’re going to say that because mandates are going, that VFF and FARQ and FNZ got rid of mandates and that’s why they are jumping in the polls.
Your polls are poppycock Polly
I don’t think that you’re right, Im right.
I haven’t ever watched Polly’s Counterspin polls – and only ever saw a 3.2 second soundbite about Counterspin on One News on the day of Alp’s and Spierer’s arrest – that was 3.2 seconds longer than enough for me. That 3.2 second soundbite was way more than enough of their, and your right-wing tripe, I’m right.
But, Im right, should give Polly the benefit of the doubt, that he/she/they obviously has, and has seen their figures. I know it’s hard to write down facts and figures if you have got recording facility for TV programmes.
I’ve given up on taking any store in any biased, or partisan polls, which are flawed, and Polly’s poll is just as valid as Taxpayers’ Union Curia Poll: August 2022.https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/taxpayers_union_curia_poll_august_2022
If you’re going to call one poll “bulldust” Im right then you undermine all. And that’s OK by me Im right, even though you’re almost always, still wrong.
What century are you from Im right? Who use the word ‘bulldust’?
Yes Seymour is the perfect fit amongst that lot.
I see they’ve got Trump on their list too bert? Even if Trump got citizenship here, I don’t think he can stand in elections in NZ in 2023? There could be some wrangling to have this happen, after all Todd Muller was a MAGA-fan.
I just did a quick tally up and they’ve got 110% in their poll – FFS. Typical right-wingers, can’t add. It’s a bullshit, imaginary poll bert, some right-winger doing a bit of “I’ve been thinking!”, or the other thing ending in ‘-ing’. Polling!
Nearly 40 years ago ;if not more, those that wished to enact the most right wing economic policies recognised that the most likely political vehicles for getting the policies they wanted put in place were the traditional left wing political parties. Labour in the UK and here and in Aus , and the democrats in the US. Since the era of rogernomics these parties have consistently outrighted the traditional conservative parties without most of their faithful left/socialist / unionised labour supporters ever recognising or being prepared to admit how they have been had. They are still being taken for a ride. Muldoon’s national was ever so much more socialist, left than any subsequent labour administration has been or will ever be.
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Yes David the current Labour Government have treated their followers with utter contempt.
*Sigh*
I agree Sinic.
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BOB THE LAST…no LINO has treated her ‘followers’ of the middle class well, covid payouts, no CGT etc etc it’s the people who actually need a ‘labour party’ she’s spit on.
Agree with that gagarin.
Bob the nob
BJ King, is he though? A kiwi? He comes across as an uneducated pommy toff import bot to me. He seems to know sfa about kiwi history and swa about anything actually. Jmo
Bob the Dulwich graduate Sinic.
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