Jesus wept ACT are going full blown crazy now.
Children in chains is their ram raid solution?
ACT Party wants youth offenders who commit serious offences to wear ankle bracelets
Offenders as young as 11 who commit serious offences would have to wear ankle bracelets that monitor their every movement under a policy being proposed by ACT.
Leader David Seymour says the Government’s recently unveiled package to crack down on youth crime is just a “grab bag of reheated policy” and “doesn’t introduce a single consequence for youth offenders”.
“The Government’s answer is to extend policies they already have in place,” Seymour said. “Do they really think that ram raids will stop by extending a few programmes that already exist?”
…National agreed and wanted more bash for your buck…
The National Party reacted to the Government’s announcement on Tuesday by describing it as “window dressing” with no “meaningful consequences”.
“Most ram raiders aren’t being caught by Police and if they aren’t being caught they can’t be given ‘wraparound services’,” said justice spokesperson Paul Goldsmith.
“Once again, victims are not at the heart of Labour’s announcement. More support has been announced for offenders, while victims are still at the back of the queue.”
…Labour tried a reasonable and intelligent response…
Police Minister Chris Hipkins said punishing young people through the criminal justice system often sets them up for a life of adult crime.
While he said young offenders “will continue to be dealt with seriously”, the programmes the Government is extending are “about a second chance for those that merit it”.
“We’re ramping up our investment in young people to create even more opportunities for them to earn and learn,” Hipkins said.
“We want to provide every young New Zealander with the chance to succeed. To do that we’ve identified youth-focused programmes that are working already out in the community, and investing heavily to scale them up.”
…the true outrage here is that Labour are only now rolling out successful South Auckland youth engagement programs to West Auckland, why does MSDs refusal to fund universal programs in favour of cheaper options the over riding value here?
Let’s remember, the median age of these ram raiders are 15, these were the children that John Key’s Government had living in cars or were throwing out onto the streets because of the fake meth State House contamination scandal!
These ram raiders are our collective legacy from those draconian solutions in Key’s term, so listening to ACT and National demand more draconian laws as a response to crime that is the result of their last range of draconian measures is fucking insane!
I appreciate and fully acknowledge seeing children commit organised crime like this is genuinely concerning to the wider community.
But I beg us all to take a deep breath, appreciate the uniqueness of this moment and the extreme pressure on so many people right now.
I’ve said from the beginning that Covid is a triple peaked crisis, the first was the physical impact on physical health, the second was the economic impact and the third was the impact on mental health.
Human Beings are social creatures, the worst punishment is isolation – we’ve all gone through a unique universal experience and it’s damaged many.
We are seeing that mental health pressure exploding everywhere from the Dumb Lives Matter protest on Parliament’s Lawns, to domestic violence, to fights in Supermarkets to a spike in crime, to the increasingly toxic online misogyny, to the Wellington Middle Class Marxists screaming to send in the military to bash protestors they didn’t like, everyone has been impacted mentally by these unprecedented times and the true cost is yet to be felt.
Polling for the Mental Health Foundation found 36 per cent of people surveyed were experiencing poor emotional wellbeing, up from 27 per cent a year ago.
Add to all of this stress the enormous jump in rents and cost of living crisis and you have desperation, anxiety, anger and fear all combining into the current maelstrom.
Of course every effort must be taken to catch every perpetrator and have them dealt appropriately through Youth Court processes or social agencies, but understanding these ram raids are the psychological and economic symptom of a deeper malaise that is running through post-Peak Covid NZ is a far greater starting point in terms of decision making than allowing our fear and anger dictate policing policy that might make things worse.
This is but the beginning of the post traumatic trauma this country is working through, we have to de-escalate and act like adults here, not become a fucking Lynch mob!
We have enough Lynch mobs as it is.
These damaged kids need our help, their criminality is a reflection of a gated neoliberal society who enrich the wealthy while providing crumbs for the poor.
The economic outlook is far more grim than we are admitting and these pressures are only building.
We need alternatives, not more of the same failed conservative social policy knee jerks.
The ramraids are a symptom of a much deeper malaise.
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Seemores policy of putting ankle bracelets on teenagers won’t work as they will simply run away he is just pandering to people. He forget they have to be monitored and he also needs to remember not all kids listen or do what they are told by their parents.
Couldn’t agree more.
Add to this the fact that young people face a planet fucked over by the adults telling them what to do, and what is right and wrong.
Yeah right!
‘Power them up’ is Luxons’ news catch phrase and he is regurgitating old National party policy by saying the Salvation Army and other community providers can provide housing John Key tried this one did it work nah!
‘Power them up’ is Luxons’ news catch phrase and he is regurgitating old National party policy by saying the Salvation Army and other community providers can provide housing John Key tried this one did it work nah!
I wonder if ‘johnsonisms’ is going to become a word for meaningless ‘policy statements’?
Boris I’m picking will be back he’s certainly not a shrinking violet.
no but he is a useless fuckin waster bob the last
you’re whistling in the dark the cons know he’s poison at the ballot box as do reps with trump both are liabilities to their own parties and as such no comfy mp wanting to hold onto the free lollies will have a bar of ’em…..they haven’t realised the error of their ways they just see unemployment on the horizon
All I said was I think he will be back?
I’m not against it if they are over 15years, better to be contained at home and supervised with professional support coming to them, than in prison or on the streets.
I’m with you SNZ. I’m sure these poor little crims won’t bat an eye lid at ankle bracelets and along with some genuine governmental guidance which may or may not be helpful, will at least experience some reprimand for their actions. Labour’s response is part of a package that will help in time, but like always is too little too late. This woke crap about severe punishment turning them into hardened criminals. They are already violent criminals who are thumbing their nose’s at anyone who stands in their way.
YOU LOST ME AT “Labour’s sensible response” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. LABOUR IS A CONTINENTAL FUCK UP RIGHT NOW.
So you support nats and acr then.
Sour Kraut is so far down the rabbit hole it’s annus looks like a micro dot.
Bert-Wot on earth does ‘continental fuck up’ mean? Is that microdot linguistics? or is it a rabbit with anal myxomatosis syndrome? Hey I don’t need an answer.
ACT.
Wikipedia
Alan Gibbs
“Gibbs also founded the Centre for Independent Studies in New Zealand and was an active member of the New Zealand Business Roundtable. He is a member of the Mont Pelerin Society, founded by the Austrian economist Friedrich Hayek. Gibbs was active in the establishment of ACT New Zealand, a libertarian political party that was formed in 1994. ACT won seven seats in the parliament after the first election under proportional representation in 1996, and has continued to be represented in Parliament since. ”
In other words, he’s the enemy. ACT torturing children is the least of our worries.
I know who, and for why, chains must be worn.
Yes people who condemn children to ghetto’s.
I’m not sure how you conclude that Gibbs is the enemy based on your description of someone who adheres to the Austrian school of economics.
However, I would add that a party that claims to be “libertarian” can’t easily reconcile itself with punishing kids like this, not can it call for vaccine mandates and be libertarian either.
My general observation is that Act is libertarian only in as much as it helps big business, and stuff the rest of us proles.
I have voted for them in the past but unlikely to do so again for the reasons cited above.
I thunk kids shud b at skool.
Yes Tane I do too.
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