I like how over at Stuff I’m like Voldemort in that you are not allowed to say my name, which is fine when you consider the amount of criticism I’ve dumped on their middle class docudrama, Fire & Fury.
I think Stuffs game is guilt by association.
As I’ve previously blogged, I knew Hannah 22 years ago, last spoke with her maybe 15 years ago. She was a passionate, admired and much respected environmentalist and social justice advocate then.
She went bush many, many moons ago and never came back.
The person in front of us now is not the vibrant and funny person I remember.
How we de-radicalise and bring our Whānau home from the rabbit holes they’ve fallen down is an urgent debate that needs to happen in our friendship circles, family and wider society.
I think this current case against them is a knee jerk reaction that they will turn into a show trial and gain only more notoriety from it.
They have an enormous platform and a conspiracy theory multiverse that is constantly using violent overthrow of the legitimate Government as their go to metaphor.
Violent overthrowing of a legitimate Government and plotting to do that is illegal and the SIS should have led a legitimate investigation and built a solid case against Counterspin.
That hasn’t happened, we’ve had a knee jerk arrest for a case they will turn into.a propaganda show trial.
After the Show Trials are over we are going to still need to talk about how we bring our family home.
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They, the main stream media, are going to try to embarrass you Martyn…why? you are their competition.
sloppy hippy thinking leads to sloppy conspiracist thinking.
the day the post modern left said ‘all readings of a text are valid’ is they day we empowered these numpties…oh and accepting homeopathy as ‘treatment’ rather than ridiculing the terminally stupid just put the tin hat on it.
So true, gargarin
Perhaps Green thinking has some shared assumptions and mental processing with Far-Right/QAnon thinking?
Cough… Hack…. Splutter… A Gagarin post I entirely agree with. So what are you Lefties going to do about the Post-Modernist Left?
tom it’s out of the box now and the right bubble is the master of using it…as you well know.
‘interpreting’ the bible which says nothing about abortion in anti abortion arguments.
I know you were trying to have your little snipe at the left but the right live by post-modernism and strategic relativism too.
They are valid.
Just not equally valid.
The problem is, the value of expertise has been left to wither on the social media vine
While the MSM podiums pick and choose which readings get broadcast, everyone else being by declaration, wrong.
Qanon seems to be more pro-China after China & Russia became allies & invaded Ukraine
Far right seems very pro-Russia = Russian propaganda?
Russia would love civil wars in democracies…
just like the MSM the so-called alternative media shills are up for purchase.
The “SS”, aka ‘Snowflake Stuff’ news influencer media are off their meds, again.
Somebody needs to cut their funding from the MoP&PE.
They doxxed the house she is living in on bail. That’s got to be a new low for a newspaper. Not hard to figure out.
They appear to have used a photo from Kiwipolitico, where I dredged it up for a “where are they now?” post. I am surprised that they made no mention of you in captioning the photograph. That seems a wee bit petty even if you do criticise them regularly.
They didnt mention you Martyn because they’re all under educated 18 year olds who have never heard of you!!!
“She went bush…” Should we translate that as she stopped agreeing with everything you believe, Martyn?
Stopped shaving
Started believing in Whale Oil.
The problem is that to many people the government has lost all credibility. The fact that it observable they don’t give a shit about ordinary people unless they are in the ‘gated’ group that is safe for the moment, but dis respect everyone else draws ire. And that the same thing can be said of both sides of the political ‘debate’.
People are tired of being tolerant of the government that shows no tolerance for them. Terrible things have been done to families, the meth criminal behaviour – from government and their agencies, the stealing of babies from their mothers’ arms virtually – decided by computer algorithms with no real government thought behind it.
The actions of import everything, export-funds-only jobs are worth bothering with, has lost precious domestic jobs and riven communities.
Who doesn’t hate or despair about the government; only the complacent, those who keep their heads down and continue in their near- affluent lives, and those ‘fools’ who cling on to the dream of some gold being found in the brains and cultures of the PTB, the politicians and their pliant flunkeys given power to be dictatorial. But I fear as in Paul Metsers song – It is Farewell to the Gold that Never I Found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswLTVtqzW8
The woke have gone so far that they have turned even hardened left wingers against them.
Today we have RNZ’s snowflake sympathy for the mall terror attacker, no sympathy is shown for the knife victims.
Funny enough, that doesn’t resonate with normal types who feel that the terrorist is not the victim!
We have woke pulling down bill boards with the dictionary meaning of ‘woman’ with public figures telling woman’s groups to meet in the rubbish dumps.
We have refugee status in NZ for pretty much anybody who can now qualify as a refugee here on identity reasons such as being gay, being depressed, being an overstayer, being a criminal, etc.
Be an aged migrant pensioner who meets another 60 year old on WeChat and in 11 days decide to get married, gets paid $10k and bob’s your uncle, welcomed into NZ against immigration advice. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/376220/10k-11-days-and-one-failed-deportation
Murdering doctors, fake doctors, you name it, in NZ we welcome they dysfunctional types! Keep deporting crims from other countries back to NZ too, that way by 2025 we might have 50% in jail or waiting for trial after committing crimes, which police don’t actually bother going to, because some woke cause like not giving out your password, gets all the police and woke attention instead.
sorry snz the woke haven’t turned me a lefty against them, I just never bought their simplistic thinking…the right have hook line and sinker that’s why you guys have your little conniption fits over schoolbooks
When you look at the number of police nurses and teachers who one would have concided as intellegent and role models who lost all respect by not getting vaccinated then you realise the power of the dark force . While some would have had ethnical reasons most were sucked in by the evil Web . that comes out of the inds of those who watched to bring the World down for their own reasons.
I can’t remember the numbers Trevor but I think it’s a pretty small percentage of police and nurses that didn’t get vaccinated. Haven’t searched so could be wrong. You missed out totally whack job General Practitioners who got all anti vax. I think the moral of the story is don’t automatically make role models of people you don’t know.
The left has been in the bush for too long.
Whereas the real left is still here and sticking with the kaupapa unwokingly. Whereas the Mellinial proto-fascist pretend-to-be-lefties are quite happy to demonstrate their mental illnesses publicly. And it’s getting boooooring!
They woke up so there! Show and tell! And take us back into the Dark Ages that older feminists had been trying to escape from. I know that it’s not only women who are woke, but men can get emotional and sympathetic too you know!
Define ‘woman’ GW? 🙂
Read an odt article today about a Chch mayrol candidate who supports counterspins rights to publish. The journalist asked some challenging questions but let the guy have his say.
This is journalism. Unlike stuff who are conducting witch hunts imo.
And the outcome from reading the article is no thanks. Won’t vote for you. But because I believe in free speech he is entitled to have his say
If the government tries a repeat of the divisive mandate stunt with the upcoming vaccine it will bring a third of the country out and it will be a lot harder to scream ‘nazi’ and all the other scapegoating fantasies. Not that they wouldn’t try, just that it will be a much harder sell and trying would be spectacularly divisive.
They would be risking actual journalism for a start. I’m told there are still some.
I’m interested to see if it will be tried. It can’t be justified and there is a lot more evidence now. And there would be no way of pretending that civil unrest was an unintended consequence. But cards on the table.
Like the old song ‘Which side are you on’ Labour? The people or the cronies?
The ‘Stasi’ at Stuff missed the headline for the picture!
Should have been, the” Bomber, and Green Enviromentalist Right Wing(?) activist with their CIA handler /Spook weekly broadcaster on TDB!”
That woulda done it!
But, not as committed to the cause as … With an I.Q. of 167, Ted Kaczynski was a certified genius.
The father of Greenpeace doctrine for activism with action, disruption, and commitment.
Yep, they didn’t mention your name in the photo.
“How we de-radicalise and bring our Whānau home from the rabbit holes they’ve fallen down is an urgent debate that needs to happen in our friendship circles, family and wider society”. Quite right. The how is a seemingly insurmountable challenge however!
I guess it shows how fragile the strands are that tie society together when the covid mandates arrived and how entrenched the madness was over vaccinations in general before that yet obviously weren’t a flash point because the health authorities didn’t do much but roll their eyes in frustration.
I note polio is starting to make its presence known in places like New York and the UK. See how we go there!
“Violent overthrowing of a legitimate Government and plotting to do that is illegal and the SIS should have led a legitimate investigation and built a solid case against Counterspin.” Totally agree – but they failed to do so effectively with Tama Iti and his co-conspirators in 2007 so nothing has really changed here. Instead…we the public, and the police (who were trying to protect our elected parliament) are routinely insulted – this week treated to Kim Hill warbling luxuriantly on about veganism with Mr Iti, numerous garbage articles in Stuff over the years about how the dreadful policemen traumatized the entire BOP community and now a film that seeks to re-write this important historical event, brazenly mixing fact with fiction to match up to their woke narrative. We reap what we sow.
I prefer Stuff over the Herald. But they are very difficult about me getting to comment on the few articles they allow comments. Knowing how bureaucracy works I can’t but take it as personal.
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