The Daily Blog Open Mic – Wednesday – 27th May 2020

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  1. WHOO Ashley Bloomfield not so fast;;;
    COVID 19 has very long legs all right see this;
    news.com.au

    https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/ruby-princess-cruise-ship-how-coronavirus-lay-dormant-in-passenger-for-10-weeks/news-story/dc009426d101ee2d8f7e1d0dcf91cb09
    • queensland
    • news
    QUOTE ; “Ruby Princess cruise ship: – How coronavirus lay dormant in passenger for 10 weeks
    A Queensland woman may have carried a “dormant” coronavirus for almost 10 weeks before testing positive after being on the Ruby Princess.” Now Mr Bloofield we warned Ministry of health back in March that this virus has the potential to “migrate to other parts of the body and lay in wait for an opportunity to re-affect the carrier.

    We warned that multiple tests need to be done over time to be sure that this virus does not return, but we are not doing this yet.

    I recall when the first patient ever found to have Covid 19 was a lady in Auckland who had returned from overseas and fell sick and was a the MIDDLEMORE HOSPITAL with severe symptoms but was tested twice and showed negative but the hospital then repeated a third test using a different system by inserting a swab deep down into her lungs to get samples of sputum to test from there and the test was positive.

    This showed clearly that we need to repeat testing several times to confirm that people don’t have traces of the virus laying dormant to re-infect the carrier and others much later then thought.

    • FGS Cleangreen don’t try to down us when we’ve been k-od and getting back on our feet. Do keep a watch but don’t hit us with might be’s.

      I hear that we aren’t taking temperatures at the airports and I think we should start wearing face masks, and know how to keep them sanitary – sunshine? They don’t prevent the virus from spreading if they aren’t the expensive ones, but it would keep the mass of germs we always carry from happily copulating with each other to give us some other ailment.

  2. Written 100 years ago.
    “Hungary Under the Heel:Bolshevist Tyranny:Rulers and the Ruled”,
    The London Times, 24 April 1919, p.10. A COWED PEOPLE.
    ‘Calm and order have hitherto prevailed in Budapest and elsewhere for no other reason than that the population is temporarily cowed, disarmed, and demoralised. The population is passively acquiescing for the time being simply because it has no means of resistance and because a people which has been broken down physically, intellectually, and morally by nearly five years of unsuccessful warfare is naturally a happy subject for the tyranny of ant determined gang of miscreants.”

    I would argue the post 911 falseflag era of perception management has done to the world population that which is described here done to Hungary by 5 years of war.
    And the gang of miscreants we are all expected to follow down the shute -even after being warned of their medical malfeasance in “Inventing the AIDS Virus” by Peter H. Duesberg; are the Fauci CDC WHO ‘gang’ bringing on this cataclysmic social engineering event.

    • I think the Desiderata has something relevant for you. It’s not thought up by some ancient seer but it does provide a calming influence. You are very probably right but alarming things happen in this world, I am reading about WW2 quite regularly and am amazed that we have not been able to change our behaviour in all tje years since.

      Reading about past history and how we never learn from it can drive you mad.
      Go outside, smell a flower, and read the Desiderata. And have a cup of tea, that is a strong enough drug for your present state remo.
      https://www.desiderata.com/desiderata.html

      This sounds a bit syrupy but a bit of sweetness is needed by even the hardest man or woman.
      Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
      Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

      • Thank you. That is very kind and I feel better already.

        Speaking of WW2 and wholesome discipline,
        In balance,
        Make sure you read IRVING and RASSINIER.

  3. Now Mr Bloofield SEE HERE BELOW;
    THIS IS THE PRESS ARTICLE ABOUT NZ FIRST CASE OF COVID 19 WAS AN IRANIAN WOMAN.
    READ IT AS A REFRESHER PLEASE AND SEE HOW DIFFERENT TESTING NEEDS TO BE CARRIED OUT ;
    We warned Ministry of health back in March that this virus has the potential to “migrate to other parts of the body and lay in wait for an opportunity to re-affect the carrier.

    We warned that multiple tests need to be done over time to be sure that this virus does not return, but we are not doing this yet.

    I recall when the first patient ever found to have Covid 19 was a lady in Auckland who had returned from overseas and fell sick and was a the MIDDLEMORE HOSPITAL with severe symptoms but was tested twice and showed negative but the hospital then repeated a third test using a different system by inserting a swab deep down into her lungs to get samples of sputum to test from there and the test was positive.

    This showed clearly that we need to repeat testing several times to confirm that people don’t have traces of the virus laying dormant to re-infect the carrier and others much later than thought.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119956755/new-zealands-first-case-of-covid19-was-diagnosed-by-tests-on-a-patient-at-auckland-city-hospital

    QUOTE “The person…travelled home [from Auckland Airport] in a private car. Their family became concerned about their condition and called Healthline.
    “They were advised to seek medical attention and attended Auckland City Hospital emergency department that same day. All were wearing masks on arrival. As a result of the individual’s symptoms and travel history they were admitted and tested.”
    Two earlier tests were negative for Covid-19, the ministry said, but a further test on Friday, using a more specific sample, proved positive.
    INDUCED SPUTUM TEST
    ESR clinical virologist Erasmus Smit says the hospital’s clinicians did an induced sputum test, getting the patient to cough up some phlegm for testing.
    The need for a third test is to do with the natural course of the illness and the parts of the respiratory system where the coronavirus is present in the greatest numbers. Smit says the testing system for the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 is extremely sensitive.
    “Unfortunately, things aren’t always black and white. We need to look at the natural progression of what happens when someone gets an infection.”Covid-19 spreads from the upper respiratory tract to the lower respiratory tract.

    ROSS GIBLIN/STUFF
    Ministry of Health’s Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield gives an update on the first case of coronavirus in NZ.
    MAIN LOCATION OF VIRUS CHANGES
    If the patient has pneumonia, the virus will mainly be in the lower respiratory tract, although some may still remain in the upper respiratory tract.
    Samples from the lower respiratory tract are obtained by getting the patient to cough, via intubation if the patient has been intubated or by using a bronchoscope if necessary.
    He says GPs would not be expected to obtain sputum samples from potential Covid-19 cases; those with suspected pneumonia or breathing difficulties would be referred to a hospital for these tests.
    GP TESTS DON’T PRODUCE AEROSOLS
    Auckland GP John Cameron, chair of a primary care emergency planning group, says the nasopharyngeal and throat-swabbing that primary care is expected to do is “non-aerosol-producing”.
    “We can do that with the infection-control measures available in primary care.”
    He says induced sputum sampling is much more likely to produce aerosols, although it is not thought that Covid-19 is transmitted in the community by aerosols.
    The ministry says on its website that 18 people who were in contact with the first case, on the Emirates flight into Auckland, are being put in “regular monitored self-isolation”.
    Countries or territories of concern in the case definition for suspected Covid-19 are now Hong Kong, Iran, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Singapore and Thailand” END.

  4. I am glad that the trampers in Nelson have been found after 14 days overdue. It is great that we care for such people and look for them for 14 days.

    Can we put as much concern and love in helping people who are wandering trying to find somewhere safe and warm for themselves and their children, and get some food and water and somewhere to wash their clothes and some money to recharge their devices that they need to contact the agencies that government has deigned to set up to deal with such importunate people who are lost in plain sight of everything!

    It is a different sort of lost from those who go tramping in the outdoors for fun or challenge. Those who just trying to cope get all the challenge they need trying to manage in the fairyland of neolib where opportunities and good times are just lying there on the ground, or around the next corner. All a worthwhile person has to do is work their way to them and grasp them. If a person can’t do that, then ergo, they are not worthwhile.

  5. Indeed and there be a fine for not having one, and part of the fine goes to buying a new one for the person. So that would be a practical outcome as well as a smack on the hand. If the battery went or something wrong on the one carried, then there is still a fine but just enough to buy a new one, and the old one is removed. And there should be a set koha for every day official searchers are out, not too dear but enough to sting. v And if not paid it becomes a collectable debt which is to be enforced.

    We have this individualistic meme around under neolib, but when required the community is expected to turn out, which is just shows how much of a lie we live under. The good people who put themselves out get used. Even if the outdoor people like tramping and do the searches willingly, it still takes them away from their own lives, family,. friends and chosen activities.

    • You don’t see any Marc? We are being transformed while you blink, it just isn’t as much as is needed. But don’t bray at the government – if you got a majority of NZ 60-40 to get behind Labour and give them the confidence that the country wanted them to do the good things necessary to not only stop decline, but turn the ship right round so it takes a better course, then we would see policies and implementation like never before. Do more of whatever you are doing, to get through to those whose minds aren’t infected with the Big C – Complacency – not Cancer.
      (That other alphabet letter M applies to such people who Measure worth primarily in Money, Middle-class Mores and Materialism).

        • Yeah I am afraid when I contact them that they will find I am not entitled to as much money as I received. They will say I have been cheating. But I don’t like them at all and limit my interaction though they have been okay to me. One thing they could do to assist beneficiaries is to once a year send them a letter explaining what they are paying out, and the effect that changes will make. They did this once but then settled in to the belief that they wouldn’t advise your entitlements until you collapsed on the floor. Merely weeping about your hardships doesn’t cut the mustard with these robust lasses and lads.

          I would say that the sickness of the desires of unlimited business has taken over Labour. The latest virus might reign supreme over their mean squinty narrow responses and they could wake up smiling stretch out a hand and say come on NZ, buck up and we’ll all get going and stop all these spivs from overseas coming and buying up our resources. Or we’ll end up in the equivalent of the Irish Potato Famine – everything not available to the people in the country who are in need, but off to distant shores for others’ profit.

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