And almost on cue, NZ First does exactly what TDB suggested it would do


Racist much?

Hours after publishing my thoughts on what the real challenge will be for Green and Labour once Winston ratcheted up the anti-immigration rhetoric, NZ First lobbed this howler into the debate…

NZ Herald ‘Alternative Facts’ Misleading Over Immigration

New Zealand Herald propaganda written by two Asian immigrant reporters stating the top five source nations for work visas are not Asian is completely wrong and based on flawed analysis, says New Zealand First Leader and Northland MP Rt Hon Winston Peters.

“The reporters Lincoln Tan and Harkanwal Singh base their defective analysis on data from arrival/departure cards (which doesn’t disclose where the applicant originally came from), not on the number of work visas issued, outstanding or yet to be acted upon by their departure.

“They take no account that many people change their visas while in New Zealand and that a lot of those who come here on student visas – nearly all on permanent long term visas – have work rights.

…which led to ACT responding in the exact manner TDB predicted they would

Winston Peters could embolden racists: Act Party leader David Seymour

There is a risk Winston Peters’ attack on Herald reporters as “Asian immigrants” writing “propaganda” will lead to racist incidents, Act leader David Seymour says.

…so Winston shows just how far he’s going to go, less dog whittle and ore dog loud hailer, ACT will champion migrant rights and what do Labour and the Greens do?

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The problem is that Winston is partly right, the true number of migrant workers here, as Mike Treen points out, is far higher cumulatively than the Herald article paints...

We have 150,000 workers here at any one time on a temporary work visa. We have 100,000 fee-paying students. The government issues 250,000 temporary work visas a year.

We have been issuing around 40,000 permanent residence visas a year for the last several decades. Changes to how people qualify for these visas under the skilled work category makes no fundamental difference to the temporary visa scam.

…but of course that in no way shape or form justifies using the Journalists ethnicity against them as if that has skewed the results they have very intelligently produced.

But the political resentment caused by the lack of investment into the groaning infrastructure combined with the inability of the working class to get ahead requires a scapegoat and seeing as the sleepy hobbits of muddle Nu Zilind won’t blame untaxed capital gain middle class greed, free market deregulation or the National Party for building the property bubble, immigrants are going to be the easy target.

So what do Labour and the Greens do? Smart readers will have noted that Labour and the Greens have already inoculated themselves against NZ First fever. Labour have called for tens of thousands to be cut from immigration and the Greens quietly announced last year ‘sustainable’ immigration which will be about as large as what Labour are suggesting.

In doing this, they hope to avoid creating too large a chasm between their position in principle and the  more splutteringly racist rhetoric of NZ First.

Winston is after the provinces, and when he combines his inflammatory immigration rhetoric with his bottom line of ruling out the Maori Party during the election proper, he has every chance of leap frogging the Greens as the third largest Party while diminishing National to sub 40.

The question remains how Labour and the Greens keep their activist base from ripping them to pieces leading into the election.

After Young Labour overplayed their hand dreadfully with the Willie Jackson candidacy, they’ve been weakened and terrified that the 400 names who signed that ill conceived letter are in a top drawer somewhere ready for payback, so Labour are less at risk from social media backlash if they don’t condemn Winston, but the Greens have no such control over their activists.

The Green Leadership are well aware their entry into Government is dependent on Winston so they can’t attack him in public and risk insulting him because Winston holds those personal grudges long and hard, but if they don’t denounce Winston, their own online Emerald Stormtroopers will turn on them.

It’ll be like a thousand vegan piranhas devouring a watermelon.

With this rhetoric, Winston is after National Party voters in the provinces, the challenge is how to decry Winston’s tactics without ruling out working with him after the heat and bluster of the campaign.



  1. For the defence of Labour and Greens, I think they take the right approach, immigration is an area that needs to be looked at, and some action is needed to limit the inflow, at least for a few years.

    As for Winston, is anybody really surprised?

    If Greens and Labour were a bit more bold, and offered clear, convincing and alternative policies to the NatACT lot in government, we may have them actually win over more voters, and get enough votes to form a government without Winston First.

  2. Lets not underestimate Peters broadening appeal.
    I know a couple of classic, well meaning, baby-boomer, Labour voters who are being drawn towards Peters rhetoric.
    They are possibly confused and I suspect feeling slightly guilty/under attack about the state of the housing market, and looking for the ‘other’ to blame, ie “Asians’.
    They earnestly believe Peters is just “saying what we all think”.
    The lack of any credible steps to a ‘fix’ on housing, rentals and owner occupied, is a problem that could create a terrible and permanent fissure in the political and social landscape of New Zealand.

    • So are Maori causing the “housing bubble”?
      Are Pasifika causing the “housing bubble”?
      Nope…wait, it’s South Africans Afrikaners?
      Hm…it could be Indians (US or Asian)?

      Are they African or Indian? The elephants in the living room.

  3. in my four years posting on TDB Martyn;

    You have been correct more times than anyone else has, so as I said before you are 100% correct.

    Winston is our saviour we see here!!

    As many current politicians are simply juvenile & have not been around over 23ys with the resulting wise learning Winston has been exposed to understand how to change this Government so NZ First will be the change we will need to rid this evil National sell-out merchant bunch of traitors they are.

    “Winston our warrior.”

    • Winston is our saviour we see here!!

      You’ll excuse me if I don’t believe in political “saviours”, Cleangreen. I do, however, believe in peoplebecoming politically conscious; active; and taking at least a passing interest in voting for candidates who will progress the country and not just their own careers or ideology.

      I still don’t know if I trust Peters after the events of 1996. He apologised for coalescing with National, but, well, he’s still reticent in disclosing to the public which bloc he favours coalition with, post-23 September. That worries me. It’s akin to giving a politician a blank cheque and having him/her reassure me with “You can trust me…”

      Yeaaaaah, nah.

      • “I still don’t know if I trust Peters after the events of 1996. He apologised for coalescing with National, but, well, he’s still reticent in disclosing to the public which bloc he favours coalition with, post-23 September. ”

        In spite of his spin, posturing and opportunism, I think Winston is genuinely and consistently centrist in his politics. However if Labour/Greens combined have a higher party vote than National/ACT (a distinct possibility), don’t you think he would accept them as government, even without coalescing with them?

    • Me personally ?- I want to see a Labour led govt with the Greens AND NZ First !

      I’d also like to see MANA in there as well.

      As for Peters ? – we are fortunate to have the guy. He keeps everyone on their feet and hopping , even if they dont always like what he has to say.

      As for Rimmer / Seymour ? , – lets never forget the double meaning far right wing neo liberals like him have for spouting off his fake altruistic humanitarian values all of a sudden and going in to bat for large scale immigration .

      He does it because it provides cheap labour for Nationals voting bloc.

      He does it because it it provides sustainability of the housing bubble and its over-inflated prices.

      He does it because it provides downwards pressure on already minimum wages.

      He does it because it provides himself a National party teat to suck on to ensure he stays in parliament.

      He DOES NOT do it because hes a great guy and has a strong moral code and wishes to stand up and be counted among the great philanthropists of this world.

      Irresponsible National party immigration policy needs to be cut right back and the refugee quota hugely increased. And I for one am glad we have Peters in there firing all guns making this issue known far and wide across this country.

  4. As a resident of a “province” (well actually, all NZers are, but let that pass): Winston seems to be the only one speaking to us. Labour and the Nats talk pretty much only about Auckland. So don’t be surprised if we provincials vote for the only one prepared to champion us.

  5. The left should cheer Winston on, if it means extracting votes from the Natz in the provinces.

    Prefer a vote for Winston than for Robot Double dipper. (and lets face in Dipper has not got long for the role, sooner or later, Paula Benefit or the Crusher will take over and they are even worse!)

    • Mwahhhahahhahhhahaaahhh ahhhahahh ahhhah hhahahhahhhahaaahhh ahhhahahh ahhhahhhahahhahhhahaaahhh ahhhahahh ahhhahhhahahhahhhahaaahhh ahhhahahh ahhhahhhahahhahhhahaaahhh ahhhahahh ahhhahhhahahhahhhahaaahhh ahhhahahh ahhhah FFS JL073, Winston will shore up a Nat govt when that nutjob Seemore and that guy with the Pekinese on his head are shown the back door of the Beehive.

      Gareth and Winston, the new coalition for Blinkie Bill from over the hill and petulant, prestigious Paula.

      Business as usual, nothing to see here, move along.

  6. Why do The New Zealand Herald and the Act Party publish in Mandarin and not Te Reo, Bomber? Immigration levels in No Zealand are saeriously out of control and will lead to civil conflict (11% Brexit, 14% Trump, 30%…. civil war, anyone?

  7. In the future Nactional will drive us to this as they are property speculators as some of the other parties are quietly, even Labour is mostly quiet about the property bubble, and wont back NZ First policy changes that will once again control the overseas “fake” low interest money printing “of the resulting circus.

    So if you really want solid financial change, go for a well seasoned politician that knows there way around, and you know that really is only by ridding national you Nactional voters and vote for Winston and give your kids and first time buyers a chance for the future or suffer this!!!!!!!!

    80% Stock Market Crash To Strike in 2017, Economist Warns
    by JL Yastine
    January 30, 2017
    Several noted economists and distinguished investors are warning of a stock market crash.

    Jim Rogers, who founded the Quantum Fund with George Soros, went apocalyptic when he said, “A $68 trillion ‘Biblical’ collapse is poised to wipe out millions of Americans.”

    Mark Faber, Dr. Doom himself, recently told CNBC that “investors are on the Titanic” and stocks are about to “endure a gut-wrenching drop that would rival the greatest crashes in stock market history.”

    And the prophetic economist Andrew Smithers warns, “U.S. stocks are now about 80% overvalued.”

    Smithers backs up his prediction using a ratio which proves that the only time in history stocks were this risky was 1929 and 1999. And we all know what happened next. Stocks fell by 89% and 50%, respectively.

    Even the Royal Bank of Scotland says the markets are flashing stress alerts akin to the 2008 crisis. They told their clients to “Sell Everything” because “in a crowded hall, the exit doors are small.”

    Blue chip stocks like Apple, Microsoft, and IBM will plunge.

    But there is one distinct warning that should send chills down your spine … that of James Dale Davidson. Davidson is the famed economist who correctly predicted the collapse of 1999 and 2007.

    Davidson now warns, “There are three key economic indicators screaming SELL. They don’t imply that a 50% collapse is looming – it’s already at our doorstep.”

    And if Davidson calls for a 50% market correction, one should pay heed.

    Editor’s Note: American seniors have been worried about our nation’s ability to continue to pay out Social Security. Leaked Reports.

    Indeed, his predictions have been so accurate, he’s been invited to shake hands and counsel the likes of former presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton — and he’s had the good fortune to befriend and convene with George Bush Sr., Steve Forbes, Donald Trump, Margaret Thatcher, Sir Roger Douglas and even Boris Yeltsin.

    They know that when Davidson makes a prediction, he backs it up. True to form, in a new controversial video, Davidson uses 20 unquestionable charts to prove his point that a 50% stock market crash is here.

    Most alarming of all, is what Davidson says will cause the collapse. It has nothing to do with the China meltdown, Wall Street speculation or even the presidential election. Instead, it is linked back to a little-known economic “curse” that our Founding Fathers warned our elected officials about … a curse that was recently triggered.

    And although our future may seem bleak, as Davidson says, “There is no need to fall victim to the future. If you are on the right side of what’s ahead, you could seize opportunities that come along once, maybe twice, in a lifetime.”

    Perhaps most importantly, in this new video presentation, Davidson reveals what he and his family are doing to prepare right now. (It’s unconventional and even controversial, but proven to work.)

    While Davidson originally intended the video for a private audience only, he recently decided to take his message public … in just a few short months his firm has spent over $10 million getting his urgent message out.

    One anonymous viewer wrote: “Davidson uses clear evidence that spells out the looming collapse, and he does it in a simple language that anyone can understand.” (Indeed, Davidson uses a sandcastle, a $5 bill, and straightforward analogies to prove his points.)

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