Has anyone other than Grant Robertson read all 63 solutions?
It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
The trumpeting announcement from the Labour Conference was an eye rolling example of the banality of bureaucracy. The very intelligent and deep future of work conferences hosted by Labour have been boiled down to wonk speak wonk wonk. And the wonk was wonktastic.
Grant Robertson boomed that Labour has 63 solutions to the future of work! 63 folks, not one more, not one less. 63!
Wonktastic!
If Labour want to capture the imagination of the voters they are trying to actually win over, they must dump the wonk. Labour’s got 63 solutions but brevity ain’t one.
It’s like Labour just can’t get a break, they were eclipsed by the startling announcement that Gareth Morgan was forming his own political Party. It seems to me that his entry changes the political landscape in a very significant way.
Labour need to start thinking about where they should focus their strengths if they want to be the backbone of the next progressive government. Wonk wonk from Wellington Central isn’t enough.
63 solutions to the future of work has all the enthusiasm deficit of cold porridge.
[…] 63 solutions indeed. […]
Perhaps that is Labour’s problem: they do too much thinking before they act and by then the public have become bored and moved onto their next fix.
Look at Shonkey’s government: they don’t bother to think anything out, they just spin the wheel of misfortune and do whatever it tells them to do.
And yet they keep on getting elected.
Labour have a hell of lot more substance than national and is showing the direction they are heading. Would have thought Labour saying people first and the era of trickle down economics is over would have been welcomed.
Labour is not going go into the election with masses of policies, they will be focusing on the few main ones that will make a difference. Don’t know what’s got into the authors on here, one gets the impression that they would rather John key stay in power.
Labour didn’t roll out the Greens becasue of Gareth Morgan who hasn’t even put out any policy yet and is only trying to drum up enough support to make his party official.
As Andrew Little was a special guest at the Green conference in June, the Green party co leaders were special guests at Labour’s conference.
Remember the MoU?
Too much detail Labour, just try a big picture vision! People only have a 30 second attention span – if that! MSM even less!
Even though I am interested in what Labour has come up with, I have not read it. The thought of going through some massive document is off putting.
If they have some lengthy thing to get across, video is the way to the masses and even then, cut, cut cut.
It’s not a massive document, so you are making critical assumptions on Labour without even knowing about their plans?
Labour is not going go into the election with masses of policies, they will be focusing on the few main ones that will make a difference. Don’t know what’s got into the authors on here, one gets the impression that they would rather John key stay in power.
Sure looks like people just want to put the boot in for the sake of it. National must be doing so good, that anything the opposition puts out is not worth bothering about, is that it?
Words – it’s called constructive criticism to try and get Labour to put out their policies in a way that people can relate too it, so more people can vote for them!
No point Labour pinning so much on ‘future of Work’ and then only 2% bother to read it, and the MSM focus on some bizarre aspect of the policy and Labour spend their time defending it instead of promoting it.
It is not constructive criticism if you haven’t bothered to read it. It is a report that took 2 years to complete and it is not a hard read at all. So what you are saying is that people have the attention span of a gnat! The report is the BACKGROUND to Labour’s future policies, some have already been announced, and it shows the direction Labour is heading.
If Labour had not of done this, then they would have been crucified for making policy announcements without doing their homework and for not having a proper background to it. msm would have pulled them apart.
It is not constructive criticism if you haven’t bothered to read it. It is a report that took 2 years to complete and it is not a hard read at all. So what you are saying is that people have the attention span of a gnat! The report is the BACKGROUND to Labour’s future policies, some have already been announced, and it shows the direction Labour is heading.
If Labour had not of done this, then they would have been crucified for making policy announcements without doing their homework and for not having a proper background to it. msm would have pulled them apart
My point is, few will read it, it is too long, voters are busy, voters are not a paid politicians – they do not have time or energy. The future of Work, could the best thing since sliced bread but my prediction is, that due to the format and complexity few will get far enough to read it.
Labour and their supporters need to listen and have some sort of nous about the average Joe. Labour are too busy talking amongst themselves and lobbyists so that is comes as a surprise when all their work comes to 0 at election time as they lose voters to the Natz who spend all their time enriching themselves, enriching MSM and lobbyists and then push out a one line election strategy – tax cuts.
Help yourself Labour!! Go to the beach and talk to some normal family outside of Wellington. Ask them do they have time or energy to read this?
Labour are better to say things like
Labour have banned zero hour contracts.
Labour supports the environment and will pay people who can’t find a job to do community work and help build houses for Kiwis.
You have completely missed the point I was trying, (and obviously failing) to make.
I’m still trying to figure out if National’s policy of $300 million to fix the housing crisis, oops I mean challenge. is in fact a policy or pork barrel vote tugging. either way, plenty of bizarre people will vote for them. Then when elected, well we’ve already born witness to National’s previous policies.
You are absolutely right there Bert, and National are masters when it comes to pork barrel vote tugging, it’s what they do best, while accusing others of it!!
Could of been explained much easier.
“It’s based on the ole PeP scheme that worked in the past and will work again as this government refuses to provide full time quality employment opportunities that provide secure long term employment after some initial training”.
Diverting the $873m spent every year into the provider network into these programmes and more.
The future of work is found already in Silicon Valley, where many startups are working endless hours, often without pay, trying to make it. Little referred to Rocketlab’s Peter Beck, one such NZ bred “start up” man, who will not be keen on any collective kind of employment contract for the people that work for him, I bet.
And when you have entrepreneurs employ people with liberal kind of contracts (remember the stunt by AAAP at Manpower end of last week, where Newshub reported they offer employment contracts with no hours and minimum conditions mentioned), they will apply favouritism, more or less, towards the staff they deem worthy and good workers, and put more pressure on those who need to “pull their socks up”.
I fear Labour are simply trying to lead us into such a new employment world, where standard hours and contracts will no longer be the norm, and where more flexibility will be allowed, albeit with a minimum hourly pay rate.
It will be a mishmash of what we have, with a bit of social conscience applied, and with otherwise new experiments that will “enable” entrepreneurs and employers to try new things. When I hear the word “flexibility”, I shudder, given past own work experiences, it often is a free license for employers to do what they see fit, which may not be that good for the workers they employ.
And ‘Back to Work’ was a slogan Andrew Little used for his speech and their new programs, which as part of the ‘Future of Work’, gives me the impression, they are actually moving towards employers, rather than towards the workers.
NO mention of course of those too sick and disabled to work, those caring on their own for little kids, those on benefits, I noted.
So I fear Labour will continue on with welfare policies the Nats have brought in, as an “investment approach”, as Labour has got very quiet on their earlier criticism against that.
This is all stuff I am very suspicious and not keen about.
Of course Labour / Greens can’t get a break with the likes of you and Chris Trotter constantly slamming them down ! ! !
Do you two have anything good to say or any real honest truths about their intentions and ways and means ? ? Who are the real WONKERS here ?
Take your packs off Martyn and Chris and consider the consequences of your Labour / Green bashing – PLEASE ! !
Well said Blake, completely agree.
Sixty-three shades of grey!
Not a very nice site, nasty.
Yeh Chris ” sixty-three shades of grey ! ” really puts you on top of the discussion and shows, again, how smart you want to appear and how out of touch you really are. Don’t some weeds need pulling in your garden ?
Everyone seems a little tense. So just to provide some perspective here’s a link to Nationals Policies that won them the Election in 2011.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/general/national-party-policies-at-a-glance-2011112211
Yep…What a short sighted mean spirited bunch we are. If people were willing to vote for that bundle of pettiness Labour are going to need every bit of help they can get to turn things around.
Even I am thinking of gritting my teeth and giving their Third Way policies another go.
Because, I guess, at least Labour don’t feel the need to build a bunch of policies focused on screwing over everyone perceived to be less fortunate than themselves.
Its something.
Geez, looking back at Nationals policies they should have been called the Punitive Party. Unless of course you include the Maori policies of course of which were just to woo the Maori Party into bed.
Words like toughen and tighten, restrict, overhaul and control.
All this then they waste over $26 million on a flag and $36 million to the Americas cup campaign. So while National constrained ordinary New Zealanders, they were very happy to be loose spenders themselves.
Give me 63 solutions any day.
The US election tells us that Labour are screwed. We have anger and frustration and mistrust that is widespread among all democracies, from Europe to the US and finally here, it has only not quite sunk in here yet.
Winston is too old and stale, to get a Brexit type anger vote, we need a new party to do this. Labour are part of the problem. as they are perceived as part of the establisment.
So no matter what they present , it does not catch on. People are now simple minded, and react and revolt, they are not into details, the left, which I doubt it can, must refine and retune its message.
Labour are redundant and screwed, they have NO message of substance to voters, they are history. Only a new party with new ideas and messages will reset the political landscape. I may know the answers, but nobody is interested in talking to me. So good luck.
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