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  1. The western world is back to normal and accept covid is here to stay. They are going to festivals, large sporting events, living life again whilst our pathetic attempt at a leader has us locked down to cover her total dereliction of duty in getting us all vaccinated. Where has our smugness gone? We are now the laughing stock of the world. Jacindas last chance at succeeding at something has failed so miserably. Has there ever been a bigger failure in NZ politics?

    1. jonesy you swampie – “festivals and large sporting events” Wow just wow. “Going to “ must be so self edifying. Doing stuff is what makes the world go around. Even reading a book would help. Get a life.

      1. Hillarious, remember kiwis feeling so superior during the Americas cup, during rugby games, look at us now….but that was diffrunt!

    2. No there hasn’t. It’s disgusts me how we give her a pass on her failings because she is apparently “of the left”, she isnt. Ardern is arguably the worst PM in my lifetime and is leading the worst government in my lifetime. How anyone can look away from the social housing waiting list, poverty, hardship, inequality, inflation, housing affordability and the debt we are now leaving our kids astounds me. And they do it all in the name of Covid-19. If this was happening under National, we would be up in arms. But as per usual the rank hypocrisy of many on the left trumps their critical thinking. We reap what we sow. Let’s hope we can hang on to Covid as long as possible. It’s the only thing that we are getting half right.

    3. ” Has there ever been a bigger failure in NZ politics?

      Nationals 9 years of Government. You did ask.

  2. John Key’s fear-mongering courtesy of Stuff – regardless of who actually wrote his absurdly pretentious twaddle – looks like a chilling example of the self-seeking people haters with a seeming disconnect with reality. I don’t know if Key ever did anything in the interests of New Zealand.

    1. He simply didn’t, what he did was in his own self interest. A traitor to Aotearoa NZ and the people.

      1. Inequality has accelerated exponentially under our new false prophet. Key was a slime, Jacinda is a grub.

    2. Key did nothing except create a massive housing crisis by letting any old ‘Jack Harry’ from overseas with a fistful of dollars use our housing stock as a casino chip with a view to making fast money…. and then, with no mandate, and as a huge ego trip, wasted a lot of peoples’ time , money and energy by spending 30 million dollars of taxpayer money trying to change the New Zealand flag. Not to mention all his dodgy dealings swept under the rug by a compliant unsophisticated media.
      New Zealand’s worst Prime Minister ever, equalled only by the hapless Jenny Shipley.

      1. So all that has got significantly worse under Jacinda’s reign yet John Key is the worst PM ever. Interesting…

    3. But poor John Key might have run out of ponytails to pull – his usual Sunday past-time. Auckland is a small town, and the girls at unlocked KFC are barriered against creatures like the Key.

      1. Yes the social housing waiting list has increased by 20000 people in four years, but Key pulled some ponytails…can you be anymore pathetic?

        1. Mickey. “ Can you be any more pathetic “? Can you ? False equivalence.

          A so-called PM living in a mansion, and targeting the hair of a poor waitress, week after week, just for fun, is pretty pathetic. Women deserve better than you and Key. He wouldn’t have got away with it if he’d been a poor man, let alone homeless, and if you don’t know that then you should.

          1. Sorry Bert you’re correct. Who cares about all Labours incompetence. They haven’t pulled any ponytails so they’re in fact amazeballs…

          2. Do your own research Mickey two blue eyes, you may be enlightened, in fact you may even be amazeballs,( must be a J.K. word) whatever that means.

    4. I think you’re being a bit unfair to good old “Sir” John. The experience of being stuck here in NZ for the winter with the rest of us plebs, rather than enjoying his annual Hawaiian sojourn, must have been extremely traumatic.

      1. Was that the about US$10M proprty that he paid a US$1 for? Nothing to see here, just move along…….

  3. I couldn’t be bothered reading it, but saw the headlines

    Sir John Key: ‘A national embarrassment’ – here’s 5 ideas to transform our Covid approach

    Well I guess from a neoliberal perspective NZ’s very low death rate from Covid would be ‘A national embarrassment’ (unlike the rest of the world) and the neoliberals are frothing at mouth when Meth smugglers are thwarted from entering Fortress Aotearoa and wages went up a tiny percent instead of dropping. Catastrophe!!!!!!

  4. I also know a few people now that seem to have gone in and out of NZ with MIQ and they seemed to manage fine, not sure if the so called 22,000 clamouring to get into NZ are legitimate Kiwi citizens or there are other reasons they can’t get in.

    Hopefully they make it compulsory to pay the MIQ fees at the time of travel, so maybe stop those who are randomly booking multiple places and take another headache away on why some using the system refuse to pay or are complaining MIQ doesn’t bill them for months and it is hard to pay it, or investigate why some who fly and book MIQ in NZ apparently leave almost immediately afterwards. Seems very suspicious!

    As usual instead of investigating rule breakers, the neoliberals want to throw out a system and let anybody do whatever they like coming here with bums on seats.

  5. I guess as long as we have a portion of our population who won’t get the jab come hell or high water the elimination strategy is all but a fairytale.
    In the meantime it’s costing you and I a billion bucks a week to pay for lockdowns!

    1. Even with 100% vaccination rates, people can still catch, transmit and die from Covid-19. Vaccinations decrease harm, that’s all.

      1. David Icke?
        You provide links to David Icke?

        If anybody was ever unsure about you you’ve cleared it all up with that post.

  6. The more cynical and manipulative sections of the conservative press believe that: Public opinion is a manufactured product. And they are busilly working on shaping this product.

    They believe that they can reshape the reality of our success against covid into a failure. Their motive for reshaping that reality, is to make another reality, one that more suits their selfish Right Wing narratives. bugger the old and the sick, and the poor.

    Over the last few days ther have been lots of media coverage of the hardships that poorer people and small business owners have suffered and are suffering because of lockdown. (like these right wingers have ever worried about these people before).
    The hidden message they are trying to convey, is that there must be no more lockdowns, even if the death toll rises.

    There is a way to make the hardship of lockdown more bearable, on small businesses and households and save lives we need to share the burden with the Aussie banks. You will never hear the Right Wing shock jocks and media outlets advocate such a fair distribution of sacrifice and burdern of the lockdown.
    That has never been their policy in normal times. They are not going to change now, no matter how much death or illness there is in the community.

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2021/09/25/guest-blog-pat-odea-the-great-aussie-vampire-squid-vs-the-kiwi-lockdown/

  7. Actually the NZ Herald was, for once, spot on with a headline;
    SIR JOHN KEY; A NATIONAL EMBARASSMENT
    There was a time when knighthoods were given for service to the nation, rather than bullying vulnerable young women and self enrichment.

  8. He never did a thing which did not serve his own purposes. He was the wrong choice for PM therefore National must take the blame. There are concerned Kiwis who wonder what drove him to quit. That fact he did so simply confirms his contempt for New Zealanders.

  9. Shesh, this it getting to Monty Python level of absurd

    “NONE SHALL PASS”
    “ARRRG”
    “Tis but a flesh wound”

  10. Kia ora Curwen
    The New Zealand government denies that there has been a change from the elimination strategy and you take the denial at face value, but the evidence showing that it has given up on the Elimination strateggy is so strong as to be almost conclusive.
    Firstly, if the tough measures (Level 4) have failed to achieve the object (elimination of community cases) logically you do not turn to less rigid measures (Level 3) to achieve the same object. You would either continue with the rigorous controls as long as necessary, or introduce even more rigorous measures. The abandonment of Level 4 before the object of Level 4 had been achieved was tantamount to both an admission of failure and a change of strategy.
    Secondly, the Director-General of Health Ashley Bloomfield has stated that zero community cases is no longer the goal. Since zero community cases is the definition of elimination, that also is tantamount to a change of strategy from “elimination” to “suppression” or “containment”.
    Thirdly, the New Zealand government has been quietly renaming its alert levels. Alert Level 4 was originally named “Elimination”. It is now “Lockdown”. The word “elimination” is being slowly phased out of public discourse.
    Fourthly the shift of emphasis to “vaccination” is an implicit admission that the elimination strategy has been shelved. Vaccination was the backstop to elimination. It is now the alternative to elimination.
    Elimination of Covid is still possible, but it can only happen through good luck since it will not now happen by design.

    1. Kia ora ano Curwen.
      You seem to assume that if 70% of New Zealanders are asking for the elimination strategy, the Labour government would not hand them the vaccination strategy instead. Wrong.
      I would venture that no more than 30% of New Zealanders would have voted for Rogernomics (there is some evidence to support that view) yet that is what the Labour Party delivered. Why? Because through the bureaucrats in Treasury and the right wing think tanks Labour heard the voice of global capital drowning out the voice of the people.
      Now the neoliberals are pushing for vaccination in place of elimination, and employing classic neoliberal arguments to that end. Covid has become a bone of political contention rather than a public health issue, and in political matters Labour will almost invariably take the side of global capital. They will not admit to it, but that is exactly what they are doing.

  11. Isolation against the virus is going to work as well as:

    > Isolation worked for our country’s endangered wildlife
    > The economic isolation preferred by NZ prior to 1983

    In both these cases and in fact ALL cases of isolationism result in the isolated species becoming weak and uncompetitive. One metaphorical rat jumps off a ship and we’re all screwed.

    I recommend you get vaccinated , then expose yourself to the virus. Because it’s coming here eventually, like it or not.

  12. Elimination is history.

    They could not commit to it and the cost of two months at Level 4 given they were to begin home isolation for business travel (which would risk community spread) as a trial for entry of the vaccinated into home isolation next year. The inconsistency was too great.

    It now looks like Level 3 through October and November instead – cases at around 25-50 per day (increasing vaccination numbers to prevent it going up and up).

    If they moved to Level 2 at any point before the end of November, there would be the risk of community spread levels there moving out into the rest of Enzed (while vaccination rates were lower). The most consequential decision now is in the “when” the government allows community spread outside of Auckland, and in what way (as to accountability for this occurring).

    One way would be to allow vaccinated Aucklanders to return for home isolation in October-November while Auckland was at Level 3 (some would cheat in via Auckland and sneak out to other areas).

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