Keir Starmer’s fate vs Chippy’s Green Party refusal – a warning to Labour
As the NZ Labour Party struggles to shake off the Incremental Wellington Mandarins, there are lessons for them in Keir Starmer’s demise.
Labour’s immediate writing off of the Greens well thought out Tax policy is all fine and dandy, Labour are trying to win over soft National voters appalled at their party’s weakness in the face of culture war extremes by ACT and NZF, so Labour’s flinch from an actual economic platform that forces the mega wealthy to pay for the infrastructure upgrade we desperately need is understandable when they are trying to woo over centrist voters, but the danger it puts Labour in is getting outplayed by the Greens.
The middle class suburbs of Auckland where Labour have built previous wins on will lean heavily in favour of the Greens after their tax the billionaires policy announcement and the reality is that if TPM and Greens announce a Kākāriki Alliance MMP strategic voting tactics in the Māori Electorates, Labour will be facing John Tamihere and Chloe Swarbrick in the negotiating room post election where Labour will have no option but to consider a far more progressive platform than they are currently selling.
The incrementalism of Starmer and refusal to do anything meaningful in the lives of working people helped fuel Reform Party.
The incrementalism of Labour NZ will help fuel the Greens and Te Pati Māori.
As a long term Labour voter I will be jumping off the boat this time .I will voter brown and green because I want change .I have also joined the Maori roll because my electorate is colonial for ever so I want my vote to go to a better person than the dodgy woman who is our current MP who has done fuck all in 20 years and will collect a massive pension and perks when she retires some time in the next 20 years .
Chippy needs to wake the fuck up .NZ needs a change of direction and it is not in the direction the river of filth party wants to take us .There is a massive chance to be part of change by getting along side the greens and opportunity parties and make that change .He could be Luxon like and let the greens and op do the heavy lifting and reap the benefits of that .Or he could sit down tomorrow with those parties and come up with a real policy that will take NZ forward to a better future for ALL KIWIS .Luxon lost a lot of votes yesterday after his childish comment about the opportunity party .Now is the time for Labor to wake up and get on board or end up as a minor party which is where NACT are heading .
Hipkins is yet another Blairite – Keir Starmer with a bit more personality. Honestly, we could have had proper policies in favour of working people years ago when labour had an absolute majority and did absolutely fuck all with it. I don’t know why you would expect any more from Hipkins, because you certainly won’t get it. As far as I can see at the moment I’m voting green, because middle-class though they are there at least to the left of labour – mostly.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/thedetail/614313/election-2026-the-disproportionate-staying-power-of-the-rural-vote
” …a warning to Labour . ”
Firstly; labour, or at least as some of you might remember it as, isn’t that. Not anymore and Hipkins is Luxon Lite. When roger douglas, the aged, stunted, pick pocket seen here at TDB recently, deliberately destroyed Labour where it stood, shovel-ready which left us with an ugly collage of ‘just a little bit of sickers and hand wringing half cooked mince patties who stood, fat-arse-ready to sit down, shut up and bank the money as Labour, the re-diseased workers political party withered from its pockets up to excrete a brand new mono-politic called ‘ neo-liberalism’ and that, all of that, hasn’t gone away. We’re still neoliberal and we’re still fucked because of that.
The only non violent way to purge us of the roger and his free loaders guide to easy money multi-billionaires and multi-millionaires is by mandating the vote and lowering the voting age to, say, 16.
But you and I know that won’t happen because it hasn’t happened yet. So, what is going to happen? Well, the cleaners are already here to prep our AO/NZ for our new owners. Trump? Heard of? As our only planet begins to sizzle AO/NZ will look pretty good to a sweaty orange psychopathic narcissist.
Stuff
‘Safe haven’: Wealthy Americans flock to buy their way into NZ
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360810545/safe-haven-wealthy-americans-flock-buy-their-way-nz
Here’s wee Pete.
RNZ
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/334094/us-billionaire-spent-12-days-in-nz-before-citizenship
And here’s sneaky petes power-shake.
https://qz.com/863518/a-body-language-analysis-of-donald-trump-and-peter-thiels-strange-power-handshake-at-tech-summit-with-jeff-bezos-of-amazon-satya-nadella-of-microsoft-elon-musk-of-tesla-timothy-d-cook-of-apple
The Guardian
Why Silicon Valley billionaires are prepping for the apocalypse in New Zealand
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand
Now here’s a great wee Korean film for you.
Parasite .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_(2019_film)
Kakariki alliance won’t happen. TPM might get two seats, Labour will take out the others. Their candidates are strong and voters are likely to opt for them on preference to TPM.
At least there MPs will have been elected by the voters unlike the NZF current lot that could not get elected because the voters thought they were shit .They got in on the hate based party vote only and now have become the party of trash mopping up all other party rejects that were kicked out of government because they were dodgy .
Today, I believe I can see where Hipkins is coming from with his rejection of Greens’ wealth and inheritance taxes. Yes, he wants to pick up the ‘soft National voters’ who are disenfranchised with National et al. This CoC have not been kind to these voters either – their interest is purely with the top-feeders with their large donations/bribes! Why doesn’t Hipkins just go with the flow and he can use the exact same excuse Luxon used, that he didn’t have much of a choice in the negotiations!? However, my family and I have always been Labour voters but this time, if Hipkins doesn’t come to the party, we will vote Greens! It’s way past time the top-feeders / parasites paid their fair share of taxation. Asking for anything less is letting every worker down. They can no longer bear the huge weight of our taxation while others blatantly fill their greedy pockets. Surely every voter, with even half a brain, can see how bad it has become for all those who have lost jobs/homes etc. Time for a huge, but FAIR, change so “everyone pays their way”! If you don’t like it, go and live in another country. Stop bludging of our working people; they’ve carried more than their load!
The Greens remind me of the old Labour that was betrayed by Douglas and co, I am going to be voting for Greens.
Regardless of your electorate vote, if we ALL party vote GREEN, they’ll have enough clout in parliament to drag Labour leftwards!
Labour has already set out its tax policy to voters. Suggesting they change at the request of a third and smaller party would be highly risky. How could voters rely on them. It is the same with National in their approach to voters.
Tax policy is at the very core of a major party’s credibility to voters. Leaving that open to the whim of post election negotiations means voters can’t rely on anything.
Coalition negotiations have to be on other issues, not on the fundamental core of the major party’s credibility to voters.
Risky? lol. Maybe to Hipkins dedication to not actually doing anything that would benefit New Zealanders.
Labour’s poll result shows that they only have a bit more credibility than National and the increase in the Greens shows that people want change. I suspect that both major parties are around their base level of support from the true believers of each side who only ever vote for them so it’s the undecided and swing voters who will make the result and you don’t attract them by promising to be as bland as the other team.
You may be right about the position of the two major parties. However, they each poll more than double their next closest ally. Therefore they get to keep their fundamental policies, of which tax is one. If left leaning voters want a wealth tax, then they have to vote for the Green Party to get a minimum of 20%.
I do think wealth taxes will become an OECD norm sometime in the early 2030’s, focused on the most wealthy. Not the 1%, but the 0.1%.
The problem with a wealth tax imposed in NZ, but not in Australia, is that a significant percentage of the most wealthy will go to Australia. Hence the reason why such a policy should be OECD wide.