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  1. In recent times (say since 1995) local government and central government have operated a top-down system, in which ordinary folk are completely powerless and the very best scientific and economic evidence is completely ignored by the incompetent fools and zealots that are at the helm.

    I cannot see anything changing because self-serving liars now make up the bulk of the bureaucracy, and cannot be removed because there is no accountability anywhere and no mechanism for holding incompetent fools, liars and zealots to account. Indeed, everything at the local government level is now completely Orwellian and there is no point in attempting to engage with them.

    By the way, in the 2016 Victoria University survey on the matter of who New Zealanders trust, local government scored 12%, down from 49% in the previous survey. In the same survey, cabinet ministers scored about 6%, from memory.

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  2. good lord!….i think you may have cracked it!

    However I suspect that even Jacinda Adern can not manage to be a Harry Perkins… those close around would never stand for it.

    Business as usual.

    1. It’s all about a national fishing expidition silly boy, you said “information is power”

      We never got transperancy from National, because they operated on “stealth” and the advantage of having that knowledge was their power.

      So no Chris, we all could not tust national with anything as they are just looking for ways to stymie the government before it completes its audit of the last nine years of the worst government we have ever had in our entire history.

      Natioal was/is full of lies lies and more lies, – and since we weren’t allowed to see their papers we could never prove their deception could we.

      An example appear before us yesterday; – like what just came to light about the “hidden EY Rail Values Report; – produced last year by the national government showing rail gave a $1.5 Billion value to our NZ economy, and national and kiwirail kept it secret so who has kept papers from us?

      Yes national did.

      Case closed.

  3. Trouble with this is, the REAL world is ruled by more or less powerful, vested interest holding lobby groups, many businesses, who follow agendas.

    And as governments are usually only voted in, with the financial and other help of such well resourced lobby groups, the governments, no matter what they subscribe to in political ideology, tend to make compromises and deals, some of which they also rather not wish to be revealed to their supporters, definitely not their opponents.

    That is part of the whole problem of humanity, as we have it.

    That is why we never get substantial change.

  4. How interesting regarding the timing of this article regarding THIS :

    John Key, mass surveillance and what really happened when Edward …
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz › New Zealand

    And when Snowden tried to warn this ignorant head – in – the – sand population ?

    Snowden: ‘You are being watched’ | Newshub
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/snowden-you-are-being-watched-2014091518

    Edward Snowden says John Key not telling truth on allegations of …
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-15/new…john-key…mass-spying-snowden/5745178

    I think back to ALL of that long , long list of sycophantic far right wing Nat/ Act supporters and trolls who habitually flooded The Daily Blog and The Standard constantly in defense of the most corrupt Prime Minister this country has ever known.

    That is the colossal gall and hostility to democracy that these scum expose themselves as being.

    This country is indeed blessed , for just in the nick of time that corrupt govt was voted out : peacefully.

    And luckily so for those who made up the prior National govt, might I add.

    But we are a slow learning country , all too gullible , too laid back , all too trusting.And it almost resulted in our own dictator and one party system, restrained only by a remnant population of people who knew a more honest and caring NZ, – and a growing number of working poor and homeless and those that became the victims of a false economy based on housing speculation…

    We once knew a better time until the devious Roger Douglas and the then called Business Roundtable ( now the NZ Initiative ) worked their deceit on the nation , their Mont Pelerin Society neo liberalism.

    New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
    http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

    And it was that ‘free for all’ ‘anything goes’ attitude that neo liberalism lends itself to that almost wrecked us. And it was the sort of disgusting anti democratic antics of the likes of John Key and those who used him as they did Douglas as their puppet. And that certainly destroyed any pretense of impartiality in our major newsmedia outlets.

    Now , … in light of Chris Trotters article about transparency in government , … and in light of the deceit of John Key in lying to the NZ public about mass surveillance , – and the vindication of Glenn Greenwald , Edward Snowden , Julian Assange , Robert Amsterdam at The Moment of Truth , – and critically – Mr Kim Dotcom in that he was right all along about Key and his lies ,…

    …Isn’t it time we rescind John Keys Knighthood? .

    That would go a long way towards reinforcing that this country , – will NOT tolerate LIARS in our Government , – either at local body or parliamentary.

    That message needs to be sent.

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