The Daily Blog Open Mic – Wednesday 24th February 2016

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  1. @ Elle – I was part of the ‘so called’ rent a crowd – I was being sarcastic about JK’s terminology of us. And yes, I know the agenda with the flag change. Alot don’t. They just see it as John’s flag versus the current flag scenario.
    And I was commenting on the mixed messages in the media, on social media, and recent polls. Extremely varied re National.

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  2. “The electronic voting machines are owned by private corporations, which are Republican in orientation, generally. And the courts have ruled that the source code on these electronic voting machines is proprietary. So, even the governments that buy or lease these machines have no access to a final verification process.”

    “And this year, about 80 percent of the vote nationally will be cast on electronic voting machines. There is no verifiability. In six key swing states—Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and Arizona—you have Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state, and no method of verifying the electronic vote count. At midnight or whenever it is on election night, those two guys can go in there with an IT person and flip the outcome of an electronically counted vote within about 60 seconds.”

    http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/23/could_the_2016_election_be_stolen

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    1. It will be a fraud electronic tabulation process with no method of manual re-recounting process available.

      So we will again be fooled by Key’s treachery and trickery into falsely accepting another flawed process to kill any true democracy outcomes now.

      Electronic voting is now clearly identified as not reliable as the source code can alter the results without any record or way of verifying fraud took place.

      Be warned this will occur here to as happened in USA.

      http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bismark_e_voting_without_fraud?language=en

      RP

      Robin Pearce
      Posted 3 years ago

      Sadly as long as there is money involved , there will be voter fraud. I can only speak for the United States but voter fraud comes in many forms. The first one would be the CIA overthrowing governments in other countries even when the government was democratically elected by the people, then you have gerrymandering, Corporate superpacs giving false information, lying politicians ( I would consider that fraud), our children are lied to in the textbooks about voter fraud,for instance with the hanging chads the textbooks do not mention the controversy surrounding the incident, only that the Florida machines malfunctioned. That leaves our children no way to make their own conclusions about the existence of voter fraud.

      David Bismark
      Posted 3 years ago

      Hi Robin!

      Yeah, you are right – it is really very hard to run a democracy transparently! My work is in making one small part, the voting and vote counting process, so transparent that there can be no fraud. For example, I am suggesting that we should use machines that can’t malfunction without each individual voter knowing that her vote has not been counted (I am referring to the hanging chads where lots of votes were thrown out and no way for voters to know that they had been disenfranchised.) But, as you point out, it can happen in so many other places. We have to keep fighting to make democracy stronger by being more transparent!

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  3. There certainly are a lot of mixed messages around at the moment. Polls showing one thing – New Zealanders buying their own country, through crowd funding – muck and dildos and booing – and an extremely large number of ‘rent a crowd’ showing up at protests.
    It’s hard to know who ‘really’ is in favour or not.
    I get the feeling the flag referendum will be more about wheather John Key is favoured or not. The fern flag = Key Favoured
    The current NZ flag = Key not favoured.

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