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  1. My reading of history is that a state of Palestine has never existed. The territory identified as Palestine passed from the Ottoman Empire to the British under the Palestinian Mandate, then after Israel came into existence those parts of Palestine not seized by Israel were taken by Jordan (the West Bank) and Egypt (Gaza).
    The call for a ‘two-state solution’ had validity before the 1967 war. It is absurd now. Israel is the effective ruler of all the West Bank, and suzerain of Gaza, an enclosed ghetto.
    New Zealand must recognise that the Palestinian Authority is a paper tiger, denounce Israel as an apartheid state, and demand the establishment of a unitary Israel-Palestine state with equal rights for all its inhabitants.

    1. Interesting comments John and I agree with your last para everyone with half a brain knows that the PA are useless and beat up their own people.

      One State with a vote for every adult regardless of race. The Labour party just one more nail in their coffin.

      I am interested that you say when reading history that the State of Palestine has never existed. When researching my family tree I found lots of bits about ancestors fighting in Palestine. This is from historical documents.

      1. I’m not disputing the existence of Palestine, of course.
        However, I think pretending that a ‘state’ of Palestine exists now (and wanting the New Zealand Government to recognise it), then talking about a ‘two-state solution’, is absurd and plays into the hands of the militant Zionist state of Israel, which has total control over the West Bank, and will happily ‘negotiate’ a two-state solution with a paper-tiger PA for the next century while moving ever more Zionist settlers on to ever more bits of West Bank land. You get the picture?
        Stop the pretence, recognise the facts on the ground, and demand the end of apartheid and the foundation of one unified Israel-Palestine where all have equal rights.

  2. The worse things get in NZ the less people care about off shore issues that don’t directly affect them.
    You can add that to Labours failings.

  3. Hi John. Thanks for the article. I would like to add that Labour does not support West Papuan independence, which is arguably under an even more brutal occupation by Indonesia.

    1. Yes I have seen John at the flag raising in Otautahi in December for the West Papuans, he is well aware of the issue. I don’t think we should be talking about which is an even more brutal occupation, they are both appalling and our government should speak out about both and do something.

  4. A “defacto ambassador” – head of a delegation to Oz, us and the Pacific gets invited to arrive here.

    He’s based in Oz who have not recognised Palestine as a state.

    It appears to be bi-partisan policy on both sides of the Tasman to play along with the two state outcome as agreed in the UN back in 1947. One side wanted it all and lost and the side prepared to share occupied the other. Then agreed to the Oslo Accord, and offered the PA most of the West Bank as a state with East Jerusalem as a capital and got rejected. Then faced intifada. So Israel applied disengagement. Followed by rockets out of Gaza. Abbas allowed Hamas (does not accept the Oslo Accord setting up the PA) to compete in the elections and then Fatah got beaten and there have not been elections there since.

    If you want my advice Mr Minto – get Hamas to agree to UN occupation of Gaza for civil society nation building. Only via return to the disengagement period pre rocket fire is this going to resolve. And along with that have UN supervised PA elections.

  5. Meh, NZ doesn’t recognise Crimea as being the democratically elected (not evcen disputed) now part of Russia either…. because it doesn’t align with the interests of our US puppet masters.

  6. Once upon a time we served Britain, now we serve the USA, thus depending on how important a given issue is to our US master, we will serve their interests…and it does not matter which party is in office. Cowardly, is one of the kinder labels one can heap on our nation, granted most of us, thanks to the mainstream media, are none the wiser as far as this tragic situation is concerned.

  7. The possibility of a 2-State solution died decades ago. Israel is a ONE STATE REALITY.
    The current regime is the most rightwing, openly violent, ever. They are openly attacking Palestinians: including Israel-Palestinians (Israel prefers to say Israeli-Arabs) ..including children going to school, including Muslims at prayer in the 3rd most holy Mosque in the Muslim world, including farmers, fishermen, including shopkeepers in Hebron..while the outside world looks the other way.
    The apartheid, Zionist Israeli regime should be shunned, openly condemned , pressured to reform.
    ie non-violent pressure: Boycott Divest Sanction
    Only outside pressure will cause the ONE STATE REALITY named ISRAEL, to reform.

    I am aware of 2 very brave Israeli journalists:Gideon Levy and Amira Hass who write for Haaretz They’ve both been here in NZ, in the past.,,so has the Israeli human rights activist Jeff Halper who openly calls for a one democratic state with equal rights for all..the only hope for Israel.

  8. Bi-partisan is bureauspeak for ‘lying, backstabbing, identity thieving turncoat’

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