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  1. A very long OP but a couple of points.

    Yesterday there were 34 deaths reported from the past 10 days. Confusing but assumed it’s prior to those who subsequently tested positive for Covid but this was not known until after death.

    Caroline MacElnay stated yesterday they had Covid at the time of death, but the linkage otherwise suggests it was not the cause of their death, it’s just that they had it. “Evidence to date suggests some of these deaths will not be caused by Covid 19”. It could well be most!

    And I will assume we have been all along attributing anyone who dies and happens to have Covid as Covid been the reason for their death. The most infamous reporting of a Covid death was the man shot to death in motel driveway late last year. The stats chalk him up as a victim of Covid, not that he was murdered, which he so obviously was. He probably didn’t even know he had it!

    This fear that radiates out of the MOH from this misreporting, if taken at face value, is outrageous. It has closed a normal functioning society down as people are convinced the risk is too high. The costs of that are building.

    Which brings me to the second point. Auckland especially is over it. We were shut off from the rest of the country for months, unable to leave NZ for fear of being locked out based on this flawed numbers game we have so far trusted. For the rest of NZ these lockdowns barely changed anything, great, no skin off your nose, for Auckland, the effect was far worse. World leading it was not.

    Science can say whatever it likes but rigged stats undermine it’s credibility. And when the people no longer want to hide under their beds, governments must let go. We have all seen Omicron or most of us have. It’s worse than an ordinary cold but not much more on the vast vast majority of cases.

    Our government hasn’t panicked, it just got real! It had to!

    1. Exactly right X Ray!

      Deaths WITH Covid but not necessarily OF Covid. Take a look at the age distribution of pandemic deaths in Australia (which maintains full transparency, unlike here):

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1245896/australia-number-of-coronavirus-deaths-by-age-group-and-gender/

      The majority of deaths are among those older than the average lifespan. According to Aussie media reports, large numbers of these deaths were in dementia wards and hospices. Was this really worth ruining the educational chances of kids coming from the lower socio-economic homes? Where there is no laptop for Zoom classes or it is shared among a family of ten? The ugly consequences of the lockdowns will echo for many years.

    2. This is an interesting opinion from a layman..

      He has an MA in History and Political Science from the University of Canterbury and a Diploma of Industrial Relations from Victoria University of Wellington.

    3. Presumably if x% of the population has a covid infection, then x% of peopled dyeing on any particular day will also have covid. likewise people in hospital will follow the same proportionality; just as if the percentage of the population with red hair and freckles is y% it can be assumed that y% of people in hospital on any day will have red hair and freckles. The potential difference being that every death and every hospitalisation is tested for covid whereas only some of the wider population will be tested, or their positive test result recorded.
      We are in the midst of a pandemic of deception.
      D J S

      1. Brother, you going down the Tory dirty politics rabbit hole, some of your mathematics is suspect. !6% of population are Maori, 12% pacifica, but Covid deaths are near 18 and 19% for Maori and Pacifica. You might be a fit young pakeha and not worried about infecting elderly or sick whanau but I’m Maori over 70 years and immunocompromised so I really am fearful of covid and my health especially as Aotearoa is going through high case numbers and deaths at this moment. I always wear a mask, record QR code, keep apart from crowds and I do my own research but I’ll still listen to advice from Jacinda and the scientists not conspirators, I reckoners, and antivaxxer lunatics.

        1. I do hope you come through unscathed Nikorima; I am also over 70. but fortunately in good health.
          My point was that at this stage covid as omicron does nt seem to be any more of a danger to us than many common viruses that have plagued humanity for ever. At the beginning we did not know. No one did and I suspect that the first strain that emerged was much more dangerous than quite early mutations and it became more benign more quickly than anyone has realised even well before omicron. But the distortion of reporting the effects from all over the world has been a scandal .
          Cheers D J S

        2. OK, I’m 73, tested positive 4 weeks ago, minor symptoms. Friends have also tested positive, we’ve all done the right thing and stayed home.
          People I interact with stay at home if they test positive but mostly we don’t care.

    4. Well said.

      Not to mention so much of the wisdom of the experts has proven to be fanciful fiction.
      There is no evidence to suggest “Unvaccinated children disproportionately spread the virus”. He jsut wishes it was the case so he could justify forcing the jab on any kid who wants to be at school.

      Just one example of the whole mantra “following the evidence” being a politcal canard. The evidence doesn’t go anywhere. What is or is not evidence and what it means is a human construct, with biases and political and economic interests. The BMJ recently published an article outlying what we all already knew but “PHS experts” like to pretend is not the case. The whole global health system is hopelessly captured and corrupt.
      Hence This “expert” apparently forgetting the first rule of Public health. “Do No Harm”. And that has been smashed by the self-interested industrial health complex. Intervention is a HUGE responsibility. Treating us like tech to be upgraded, the new philosophy is “Move fast and Break THings”. We are thick in the realm of massive unintended consequences and they are hoping we keep listening to them, and don’t notice.

  2. Your list of recommendations at the end is not based on scientific evidence at all. It is based on your own fear issues regarding COVID-19.
    Because this is the problem in this whole pandemic response, at a worldwide scale: we lack good evidence. Good evidence is meta-analyses and randomized controlled trials, not the scientific buddies of Labour meeting at the corner of the table. Experts’ opinion is the LEAST good form of evidence, by far, experts have been wrong all the time in medicine history, when they are not riddled with conflicts of interest, to start with.

    Do we have good (I insist on good) evidence that vaccinating children does actually anything to protect them or protect the people around them? No.
    Do we have good evidence that boosters are useful and safe against Omicron vs. the standard double dose? Neither. For the safety aspect, I was recently happy to finally hear from the IMAC head himself that yes, Pfizer 2nd and booster doses cause more myocarditis in young males than COVID-19 itself, as it was shown in the Nature study when you analyze their figures in details.

    The only solid piece of public health advice at the moment comes from WHO saying basically that rich countries like us should stop worrying so much about vaccinating kids and getting boosters done and instead should shift towards more efforts to protect less developed countries, as these ones are the perfect incubator for new variants to emerge.

    Why do you want to keep unvaccinated kids from school? This does not make any sense from a public health perspective. We know this vaccine is not good at preventing transmission (around 50% reduction only the first weeks before this effect vanishes) and we actually lack solid data on it protecting kids from hospitalizations (but likely to be the case). On the contrary, we know that diverting kids from their usual place of socialization and learning can have a huge impact on their development. For a lot of poor kids, there is no education at home for them and no incentives to attend online classes. Sometimes even no safety. School is a reassuring haven for them. The teacher remains a role model for a lot of children. Why would you deprive them from all of these positive aspects of schooling in the name of a very frail hypothesis, based on actual scarce data, that it would save them from Omicron?

    The same could be said about your hypothetical decision to base vaccine passes on 3 shots instead of 2. We know that the 3rd shot offers a marginally better protection against hospitalisation than the first 2 for young adults: studies show a further absolute risk reduction of 1-2% (from 95% to 97%) in the age category <50 y.o (and we only have a meaningful effect on this parameter for people 80+). As said earlier, we know the booster is very inefficient at preventing transmission except maybe for the first 4 weeks after the injection. So, for the vast majority of adults, at least those younger than 70-80, booster shot barely reduces their own individual risk of hospitalisation, does not do much in terms of transmission reduction and, for young males 18-40, seems to carry a higher risk of myocarditis than the COVID-19 infection itself. At the light of this data, you do not have enough arguments to support individual freedom restrictions based on the 3rd dose or not. This 3rd dose, considering how little benefit it has on young adults, should be the result of a free decision not forced upon people.
    Please note that my opinion on the 1st and 2nd doses is not the same as for the 3rd dose. Also please note that this opinion would be revised if we had another variant than Omicron emerging.

    The situation is different for those 70+ and even more 80+ years old, they definitely benefit from the booster shot and this is the age category where it probably should be mandatory in some way. Because these are the ones dying from COVID-19 in the vast majority of cases worldwide.

    Definitely, what COVID-19 should have been is the epiphany of 'personalized public health', i.e. having different public health advice, recommendations and measures based on different population categories, because we have now the capacity to produce this level of finesse. On the contrary, it has been the reign of brutal mass-public policies that can only trigger, in the long run, even more hesitancy towards public health decisions. Public health deciders have to stop taking the common mass of people for fools. People know how to document themselves to a certain extent. And the more you push on them measures and mandates with little to no solid evidence, the more you deter them from accepting the other measures and mandates with solid evidence, because they reject the public health system as a whole. Fool me once, fool me twice…

  3. This is exactly why you shouldn’t in charge of the pandemic response.

    The government has given in on the restrictions simply because most people have been ignoring them for some time now. All they did was acknowledge reality. People want to get on with their lives. Whilst I understand your sole focus is the preservation of life, that too comes at a cost.

    Meanwhile as a doctor you should be far more concerned about all the other conditions that people suffer from whose testing and treatment have been ignored for the last two years thanks to the focus on the pandemic. My elderly neighbour has been complaining of stomach pains. It could be due to a dozen or more things, some of which are fatal, but the nearest he can get to a doctor is over a phone line.

    1. Andrew: “…as a doctor…”

      He isn’t a doctor. This is very likely to be a big part of the problems with this article.

    2. What about those that don’t get treatment in our country and those that get half pie lip service treatment can any of yo on this site relate to that nah! probably not .

  4. Fear of losing the next election has taken over the thoughts of this government and it’s decision making. With a health minister that is completely out of touch with the work force he has sway over little inovation will take place.
    With schools I would suggest teachers have a full face screen rather than a mask so the pupils can see the full facial expressions which are very important in forming bonds .

  5. Thanks Ian. All sound advice (which the Government will ignore), and several very useful links. It looks very much that the Government capitulated to the three-week occupation of parliament grounds in February-March, regardless of its protestations to the contrary. (And the nutters still hard at it in the comments above, I see.)

  6. Sorry Dr Powell.
    But you highlight the term.
    When all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail.

    You are looking at the problem. From an Elite person with some medical experience(however it would more appear you have trade Union experience as per your previous position.)

    The biggest question which is asked about Public health is surely. What is the best thing the Government can do to maximize Public Health.

    The NZ Government “”followed the herd”” with lockdowns and alarmism.

    While I agree the first lockdown was a reasonable response, given the lack of knowledge about what was happening quickly across the world.

    The Zero Covid approach was hilarious NOT supported by many health experts across the world.

    IT was suggested by many Non Jacindanistas that it would be reasonable to rampup construction of Hospitals and hospital staff.

    But what did this Governmnet do. Extended lockdowns that halted any and all construction,
    AND closed the borders to any overseas medical staff that were sorely needed.

    The stupidly long Auckland lockdowns stopped many PUBLIC from accessing the health care they needed during that very long period.

    I am sorry but your ant is a view thru a keyhole

    Good luck with your retirement

    1. Ra, are you a hori tory. Jacinda and the scientists have made the right decisions from the start of the pandemic and that is why she has protected and saved the lives of tens of thousands of Aotearoan citizens from the enemy Covid. You said overseas epidemiologists didn’t support NZ’s strategy – thats why they their governments were failures and ended up with hundreds of thousands of deaths of their citizens. Luckily the useless tories Luxon and Seymore were NOT leading the covid response otherwise they would be losers and failures like the afore-mentioned.

  7. The major logical flaw is that once you have an endemic respiratory virus, you can’t prevent the total number of cases, you can only spread them over time. The fact that a given person will have the virus is almost mathematically inevitable, and in actual fact they are better off getting it now with a relatively fresh vaccine/booster. Unless you commit to a policy of mass vaccination every 3-6 months ad infinitum there will be a proportion of the population with waning immunity even if they’ve followed all the rules.

    Hard suppression via extraordinary measures like vaccine passes etc only makes sense when cases threaten to overwhelm the health system in the short term.

    The article is really just rank zealotry.

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