Whoa.
Who got up on the wrong side of the web?
Audrey Young’s vicious drive by shooting of Chloe Swarbrck’s courageous stand against this cowardly Government’s foot dragging on recognising Palestine as Israel continues to commit a war crime is a shocker on the rocker…
…Audrey calls Chloe self centred and selfish as she goes all Karen on the tone policing. It is an attack so personal, you can feel the jelly.
It is so beneath the mana of a Press Gallery Doyenne like Audrey to get this personal over Chloe’s stance. There have been few times that I’ve ever contemplated making a complaint about a Press Gallery’s commentary and this is one of them!
This is so extraordinary in its personal abuse of Chloe it really is a black mark on her body of work.
Remember that column by Garth George in the NZ Herald a decade ago that argued there was no way climate change could be real because God had sent Noah a rainbow promising to never flood the earth again?
Remember that time when the editorial board decided to use AI to write their editorials?
Remember when John Bishop wrote that column about not being able to buy a sausage roll at a petrol station?
Remember how they all seemed to have escaped any editorial oversight?
Yeah, this column feels like that.
I think Chloe’s speech was magnificent and her challenge completely legitimate!
This Government has foot dragged because of Zionist Apologists within the Government and outside influencing it.
Chloe cutting through the crocodile tears pointed this out.
According to Hansard, spineless has been used over 60 times and no one was kicked out for the entire week.
The double standards are outrageous and the establishments feigned offence is disingenuous in the extreme.
You brittle snowflake Audrey.
Did no Editor vet that before it was published?
Is this some work from home upload straight to front page sort of cost cutting measure is it because sweet risen Christ that was the worst column Audrey has ever written.
We get it Aud’s, you fucking hate Chloe’s guts and want to knife her, good for you grandma, now back away from the lap top Karen.
Jesus wept, what a howler of a column.
PS – I have a soft spot for Gerry and I know it was because he has such a big heart that he ruled so personally.
Don’t get me wrong, love Chloe’s fight and she is the hero that History will remember (shouting Free Palestine as she was ejected was actually genius), but in tiny defence of Gerry’s big heart, he is as horrified and disgusted as any rational human being at the bloodshed in Gaza and feels just as strongly as any human with a conscience and he took the insult personally and that is why he judged so harshly.
I’m not justifying nor defending what Gerry did, but as the Speaker of the House at a time of unity he got personally involved and that’s why he responded the way he did. On this Audrey and I can agree.
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Audrey Young, sister to Jonathon Young, National MP whose father was also a National MP.
Never expect any neutrality from Audrey, she is one of the worst NZ Herald National stooges…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Young_(politician)
There are 100’s of poor policies this National CoC has used to attack the country and yet Audrey is nowhere to be seen. Neutral reporters thankfully are holding this government to account and they hate it.
Hilarious:
“Brownlee yesterday confessed that he himself felt personally offended (presumably as a member of a Government party) when Swarbrick said: “I will reiterate my call for the Government to pick up our Unlawful Occupation of Palestine Sanctions Bill and to sanction Israel for its war crimes. If we find six of 68 Government MPs with a spine, we can stand on the right side of history.”
Brownlee clearly has strong views on what is happening in Gaza and objected to the view that anyone who didn’t support Swarbrick’s bill was spineless.”
https://archive.is/92yaN
Young admits that Brownlee was offended- because he supports genocide, and opposes any action against genocide- and took offence on his behalf- because she supports genocide.
“We get it Aud’s, you fucking hate Chloe’s guts and want to knife her, good for you grandma, now back away from the lap top Karen.
Jesus wept, what a howler of a column.”
Brilliant!
And just to add whilst she is a Chloe hater she was a Key lover and doted on him, gushing at every meeting. Audrey Young, ugly on the inside and out.
Brilliant! I second that. Yep she has well and truely exposed herself with this one. Not a political journo at all but a fucking bitch with a platform she usually uses more subtly to grind away at her axe.
Where is the media outrage about Collins calling Jacinda gutless the very next day .?Oh ,that’s right we can’t have criticism of a government minister because we would be defunded some more millions .
Gordon, Comrade Ardern isn’t an MP. There standards apply to MPs.
My point is why should a government Minister even talk about a person ,no matter who it is,in that manner then object to what Chloe said .She is offended because she has no spine .One only has to look at the way she chose to turn her back on kids in care being abused.
It’s taken Gerry over 18 months to decide he wants better standards in parliament “nex minnit “ national ministers all over twitter telling bare faced lies about the covid inquiry and the man who calls himself PM telling lies about Dame Jacinda being summonsed what a lode of shit comes out of these people’s mouths
“Comrade Ardern”
Wow, you really are juvenile.
Yes that’s right and to say they haven’t fronted with facts and information is complete bullshit. However this public hanging was orchestrated by the right to embarrass Labour with the public, who according to some dumbass ‘poll’ taken by the NZ herald apparently think Hipkins and Adern should have ‘fronted’.
Its unfucken real that we have Zionist supporters in our political system however giving that NZ is a white supremacist European exceptionalism racist colonial state not surprisingly many pakeha looking individuals and some brainwashed slave brown people isn’t surprising that they would actually support apartheid Israel.
Audrey is a shining example of why people do not trust the main stream media. Much of the political “news” is just the opinion of the person who writes the article. Just need to look at the opinions expressed over the Labour MPs not fronting to COVID inquisition.
Thomas Coughlan has been the only one who has said that Jacindas is correct in not fronting. However there were so many negatives in his article you could tell he was swallowed dead rats.
The world would be a far better place if news outlets were that instead of propaganda machines for the right.
I have noticed Gower and Burr have crossed over to that side much to my disgust.
I also have to admit that the Daily blog is biased but at least it is not disguised as news.
Brilliant! I second that. Yep she has well and truely exposed herself with this one. Not a political journo at all but a fucking bitch with a platform she usually uses more subtly to grind away at her axe.
Agree in all points except one. The daily blog is not biased. It bluntly speaks or exposes the facts but isn’t biased as to what the facts are.
Remember Cloe chanting “From the River to the Sea”.
Does she understand its meaning.
A phrase that can be used to call for the elimination of the State of Israel and/or ethnic cleansing of Jews living there, to be replaced with Palestinian control over the entire territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
Look under your seat.
That’s right, it’s a dunce cap in your size.
It’s Likud who began the call “from the river to the sea”. Because Zionism is a racist colonial enterprise.
So where is your criticism of the actual acts of ethnic cleansing which Israel has been conducting since 1948?
And please explain why Zionists can use terrorism to pursue Statehood, but legitimate resistance by people under occupation is “terrorism”?
Bet you won’t answer, because you’re a child with childish ideas and a superficial knowledge of the topic.
You have no idea
I replied to cinder
BULLSHIT
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE.
A slogan calling for freedom of the Palestinians. It does not call for the murder of those currently occupying Israel. Hamas changed their charter a long time ago.
Yes one state with real democracy and Atheists, Jews, moslems, christians and anyone else will live there but none of this bullshit that if you are born say in the US then you can move there are move into a Palestinian owned house.
Absolute rubbish. The phrase “from the river to the sea” does not mean any such thing. It is a call for Palestinians to have human rights and self-determination like anyone else. That does not require the elimination of the illegitimate entity called “Israel” and it doesn’t call for any ethnic cleansing of anyone. All it calls for is human rights for everyone.
Why are you so opposed to human rights and international law?
Where were you when truly socialist Yugoslavia was getting destroyed, fuck your virtue
Oh do fuck off. From the river to the sea was first used by the Likud party in 1978. A clear case of premeditated genocide
What’s your point?
Firstly, shame on you Audrey Young – if that’s the best you can do, it’s time to throw in the towel. BUT now it’s time to face the HARD FACTS! This RW CoC are a mob of lying, spiteful, racist, revenge-seeking F/wits, the worst this country has ever seen. There are no well-thought-out policies, no humanity, no moral decency, backed by an equally spineless and biased media – just a bunch of ME ME ME “wannabes” looking for individual stardom, a good salary, and yes, a ‘Knighthood’! Please say you get it, and open your eyes really wide, engage your brains, and stop supporting this CoC MONSTER, thus allowing them to disband, regroup, get rid of their megalomaniacs and reinvent themselves into a REAL thinking political group. Also time to look at different voting systems while we still have a country to run. We can’t continue on this totally destructive path any longer. Nothing should be fast-tracked or go through on auto pilot. Every action needs to be dealt with thoroughly, in good faith, and for the collective good of ALL the people in NZ not just the wealthy or those with influence. Failure to get rid of this dastardly CoC will soon see our lovely NZ governed by a foreign entity!
This post made me reflect deeply on important things I often overlook
The one-eyed myopic Audrey Young has no credibility…never has ….never will….
Her father Venn Young, and one of her brothers, Jonathon, were both National Party MPs hailing from a farm down Hawera way…neither very good.
The apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree…instead, she’s just a National
Party voicebox disguised as a journalist….
I knew another one of her brothers…he is a good guy… a completely different kettle of fish altoghether with a completely different world view…i’m sure he would be muttering at the rubbish that Audrey writes about Chloe.
Right on “national party voice box disguised as a journalist” ….well and truely exposed for being that now. Not a very smart thing for a propagandist to do.
It’s now very common to hear people say, ‘I’m rather offended by that.’ As if that gives them certain rights. It’s actually nothing more… than a whine. ‘I find that offensive.’ It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. ‘I am offended by that.’ Well, so fucking what?.” Stephen Fry.
Due process is important as a means to resolve substantive issues and parliament’s rules are there for a purpose. The substantive issue in this case is the Gaza genocide and when commentators like Liam Hehir and Audrey Young try to deflect attention from the real issue of genocide to matters of procedure (and then brazenly try to blame Ms Swarbrick for the change of focus) they are being worse than disingenuous.
The same can be said for the objection (raised on RNZ, no less) that we can’t act in opposition to the genocide because we can’t say that it is genocide until a court (the ICJ) has ruled that it is in fact genocide.
Apart from being morally reprehensible, these kinds of process-based arguments are logically ridiculous. Courts rule after the event. In most cases long after the event. If no one could act to curtail criminal behavior before a court had ruled on the matter, crime would run rampant and no cases would ever come to court.
If mass murder was underway at a synagogue in Wellington, and the government told us that they could not send in the police until the High Court had ruled that it was indeed actual murder, we would draw that obvious conclusion: that the government itself was complicit in the massacre.
The same applies to the Gaza genocide. The New Zealand government is one of just a small handful of countries in the world which continues to signal support for Israel and which refuses to take a stand against the Gaza genocide.
In deference to Israel, its Prime Minister, Christopher Luxon, has announced that his decisions on recognition of Palestine will be determined by New Zealand’s “security and economic interests” and that no swift decision will be made. The “process” of New Zealand’s decision on recognition of Palestine coincides with the process of its approaches to Donald Trump for a reduction in US tariffs on New Zealand exports from 15% to 10%. These are the “economic interests” mentioned by Mr Luxon which New Zealand is now weighing up. To put it bluntly, New Zealand will trade the lives of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian children for a 5% reduction in US tariffs on wine and beef. Nothing could more starkly illustrate the moral bankruptcy of New Zealand colonialism and a series of learned or unlearned articles on the need to follow due process does nothing to dispel the impression of moral iniquity.
Very well said. Thank you.
Very well put, Geoff Fischer. The circular argument which leads to incredible nowhereness, worldwide I might add, is pox, pants and paraiya all in one. Never read Audry Young, her name belies her attitude, if she is critical of Chloe Swarbrick for being emotional, tsk tsk, the point is, will our children forgive us?
But will our children forgive us
When they see what has been done?
Their contemporaries starved to death
And murdered just for fun?
It’s like “what did you do mummy
In the great murder war?”
The one that everybody watched live
While the bankers kept the score.
“Whose side were you on daddy?
Shooting boys like me for fun;
Cos we all saw it at the end of the day
Despite the censor’s run
“Oh Nanny, did you protest?
Did you even wear a tee?
That starving girl with bones for a dress
The exact same age as me?
So will our kids forgive us
When the light of truth turns on?
We want them to outlive us
But will they, if all hope is gone?
I doubt it.
Hey Gin,
What an extraordinary lament, thank you for sharing.
Yes thanks GF and all the semantics over the word genocide while people are literally being slaughtered is disgusting.
You know that you’ve hit the mark when they squeal.
Although I was surprised that Swarbrick was thrown out, she doesn’t help herself by presenting as lippy and eternally angry. It’s all a bit tiring and she could try a different persona.
Oh dear she is lippy and angry and good on her for that, I am bloody angry i first went on a march for Palestine 15 years and many many since.
Why go on a march for something that has got nothing to do with you? Is it easy because you don’t have to actually do anything? Just curious.
because genocide by our allies demands action you fucking cunt
Mate, if you had to sit there day in, day out, listening to the disingenuous shit-fuckery coming from the government benches, you’d likely be despairing of humanity’s future too. Granted, Chloe’s chosen to do the job she does, but getting a little irritable and frustrated is a normal human response when confronted with people who seem to enjoy being obtuse, obstructive and evasive.
Bishop ,Willis,brown,peters,jones Seymour in fact the whole fucking government are lippy and eternally angry we need a whole new government not just a persona
Swarbrick hasn’t got past the year 13 cringe debater. Perhaps it’s her privilege I can’t get past.
And you haven’t gone past years 5 you poor excuse for a human.
Ennius you just described Winston Peters. The only time he smiles is when he cracks himself up. All his borish wanking on almost makes you forget that the hypocritical bastard just helped flush another 600 mil from down the drain.
“by presenting as lippy and eternally angry”
You have just described any of the coalition.
Since its inception in 1863, the NZ Herald has been a great pile of equine excrement dumped by the mouthpieces of the Auckland business elite onto NZ’s body politic, suffocating the life out of it and preventing the emergence of any intelligent life-forms.
Then make your case!
Doesn’t seem to be forthcoming, because it’s you who has no idea.
Everything I have stated is historical fact. What have you got?
this CoC represents a total debasement of critical thought. They are just vapid self serving troglodytes, sniffing around the forest for the next bit of meat they can drag back to the cave
Man with no name, all politicians fit this. Only your description is generous. Is a single one of them decent?
Privilege?
You’re thinking of the Nats and the Associates of Child Touchers mate.
Debate club?
You’re definitely thinking of David Seymour.
Any more distractions you’d like to throw out rather than address the genocidal elephant in the room?
Or are you just angry at a woman of principles?
Yeah!!!!!
Yeah Cinder never Bob the idiot. Gin Hag your lament is truely excellent just re read it.
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