Wow!
Green Party cancels meeting over Darleen Tana
The Green Party has agreed to cancel this weekend’s meeting on whether to invoke the waka-jumping law to have MP Darleen Tana removed from Parliament.
The former Green MP has filed for an injunction seeking to stop the party holding its meeting, planned for this Sunday.
Tana appeared at the High Court at Auckland on Thursday alongside her lawyer Sharyn Green.
Her judicial review is targeted at co-leaders Chlöe Swarbrick and Marama Davidson, the party’s kaunihera (executive committee) and the party itself, over the decision to commission an independent investigation.
Tana’s argument is the investigation was unlawful and not allowed by the party’s own rules, and it was unreasonable of the party to commission the report or use its findings. She also claims unfairness and says she was “induced to resign her membership” of the party.
The Greens promised not to eject Tana by using the waka-jumping law until the court had ruled on the matters raised by Tana, and would cancel their 1 September meeting.
Self appointed Judicial God, Andrew Geddis, breathlessly told us all that Tana had no chance, so what the bloody hell just happened?
The response doesn’t make sense and is politically counter intuitive, so what is actually happening below the surface?
I was there this morning watching proceedings, Tana sat at the end of row I was sitting in wearing a raspberry beret, and it became quickly apparent a last minute late night deal had been cut.
Talking to anonymous sources the state of play has become toxic and awful.
As difficult as it is for readers to comprehend, there is an uber woke clique inside the Greens who believe Chloe and Marama are not woke enough.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Totally insane.
This uber woke clique were behind the attempted Leadership coup against James Shaw, plotted to move Elizabeth Kerekere up the rankings and have acted like ideological stormtroopers to push for identity politics uber alles.
This clique, made up of Green Staffers, fourth wave feminists and non-binary activists are backing Tana and the rumour is that they have provided Tana with a smear file on Chloe and Marama that Tana might have dropped in todays Court hearing.
Realising how far Tana is prepared to damage the entire Party has caused the Green leadership to pause and blink in terror and they have backed down on the meeting to impose the waka jumping powers.
It is a terrible game of political brinkmanship between woke factions willing to damage the leadership at all costs.
We see the woke do this time and time again in NZ activism.
They parasitically burrow into leadership roles in a movement and then impose their pure temple purge and call what ever damaged remnants remain a success.
We saw them do it with the Auckland Pride Parade, the Auckland Students against climate change movement and they are most certainly deep inside the Greens.
Criticise the woke all you like, but sweet Jesus The They/Thems just want it more and are prepared to poison the whole well to get it.
So, the woke clique threaten a dirt file dump in Court, Green Leadership backs down, the waka jumping meeting is called off and a new date on the 12th is set.
There will be 3 outcomes.
1 – The Green leadership gutlessly and cowardly back down and actually allow Tana to remain and they become the new focus point for the non-binary activist clique and the 12th gets dumped altogether.
2 – The Greens just pay her out and she steps down with all the resulting non-disclosure contracts signed.
3 – Chloe says, ‘fuck it’ and pushes again to remove her no matter what dirt she drops.
If the Greens allow her to stay, it will be the death knell to Chloe’s leadership and you will see Green polling dwindle as Labour suck up Greens walking away in disgust.
If the Greens pay her out and move her on, Chloe still has a chance to take the Greens into a meaningful role in the next Government.
If the Greens call Tana’s bluff, the smear gets dropped and the consequences follow.
This entire septic infighting is now a real never ending problem for the Greens.
What a sad state of affairs as the planet melts and desperately needs political leadership.
Labour’s natural coalition partners…..
You forgot that Jamie Lee Ross was that for the Natzos
Ok, what is the smear, this is a blog so revel it.
Also I want to know what your relationship is with Debby Gibbs, the chairwomen of Atlas Network. Was she ever your friend? Seems bloody weird she was also on the other hand the manager of Straightjacket Fits. The Atlas Network is part of the Project 25 group and we have Act, a minority party, formenting exactly those policies in N Z.
Keep us up to date LC i’m interested in this 2025 conspiracy
@ ada. I agree but not for why you might think.
Labour’s neo-liberal. It’s been neo-liberal since roger killed david forty years ago. So to build the assumption that The Green Party could coalesce with Labour is in fact correct and true. The Green Party is a simpletons hand wringer hanger-on party which, like the pathetic others, pretend we have choices politically when in reality, we don’t.
What we do have is a rabble of over paid traitors of various cliched uniforms watching on while their salaries would be better spent at the pub by The Mongrel Mob.
I have a, for me, an unnerving level of trust in Chloe Swarbrick. I think she’s the light at the end of a long and fucking dark tunnel.
Rod Donald was a good person too but he died in a soft, sad sort of way. Food poisoning. From an unknown source. He was fit, healthy, was well liked and rode a bike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Donald
@ darleen tana? Fuck off. Just fuck right off. You’ve been outed. Pack what’s left of your self respect in a small, zip-lock sandwich bag, recycled of course, then fuck off with it. I hear the labour/natzo’s and their clones are always looking for someone like you. Indeed, they ARE someone like you.
Yeah!
I agree she should have packed up and fucked off on day one .Really she should have withdrawn from the election and save what little mana she had left .Now she is just a parasite giving Maori a bad wrap .Much the same as the woman hating Indian from labour .
Well said
The real problem is not Darleen Tana, not the woke cliques, not the Green Party but the whole political edifice of the Realm of New Zealand. This is a system designed to be corrupted, and corrupted it will be. The one obvious alternative is Te Whakaminenga, Rangatiratanga, and a genuine democracy with an elected head of state and representatives who are genuinely accountable to those who elected them. Not to a foreign monarch, a party hierarchy, a corrupt mass media or nothing more than their own personal ambitions.
True representation will never occur under NNZFACT because it would spell the end for their tenure or hopes thereof – given the obvious deceptions and outright lies that underlie nearly all their actions
We are all foreign, and we all got here at different times.
Speak for your own race MH Maori are indigenous look the meaning up it might surprise you?
Option number 3 is the only one any real leader would take. No doubt option number 1 will be what happens.
The Greens obviously have something to hide particularly their Co-leaders otherwise they would have dealt with this problem earlier.Im looking forward to the next installment.
From my distance it took the Kerekere affair to illustrate that there are serious problems indeed with Greens factions. I was involved with the Greens during Sue Bradford’s brief time in the Far North and know a number of their local members and supporters and they are not impressed with the current iteration.
I have innocently suggested that they need to pay more attention to candidate selections, bona fides and disclosure. But…if Martyn is right certain Greens knew exactly what they were getting with “They Tana”, just as certain Natzos knew all about “lets go out clubbing” Sam Uffindell.
They should just go for broke and boot They Tana. The dust will settle as it always does, and the Green brand will survive for 2026.
Pathetic Uffindell was 16 still at school,your comparison has no relevance other than extreme political bias.
Sounds like they need a healthy dose of toxic masculinity.
What a shit shower indeed, thanks for that interesting report
I hope that the ‘nuttier than squirrel shit’ clique manages to come out on top – would be interesting how nutty they actually are and will result in their losing even more support as they will only be left with the ‘bat shit crazy’ 1 or 2% . .
sounds like you would fit in well
What you have reported Martyn is that the greens in unfamiliar territory, we have heard them grand standing for years in advising other parties what should be done/what they would do, ball is firmly in their court now and the silence is fucking deafening.
Question: you have given 3 scenarios above, but have not given your opinion/choice as to what you believe Chloe should do.
What is your suggestion? (personally, option 3 for me…vote her out and call her bluff in any ‘dirt’ she may have, possibly no dirt of any consequence at all)
Yep, most likely a storm in a teacup. Call her bluff Chloe. Let’s see what she’s got.
Delusional.
It’s amazing how triggering right-wingers whose tether to reality is increasingly tenuous are so triggered by the mere mention of the Green party.
The ‘silence is fucking deafening?’ Wtf are you talking about? Your lack of willingness to listen does not denote silence from them.
They have made a calculated decision to be more pragmatic and try to get this over and done with asap — since the legal filing anyway. They obviously haven’t handled this as expeditiously as they could have previously, but at the moment, they’re sharing what they can in light of the imminent court case.
Triggered? To uproarious laughter as we watch our enemies disembowel themselves.
Triggered enough to make you respond, qanon xenophon getiton.
I disagree that anything will be the death knell to Chloe’s leadership.
I think the Greens are slowly maturing to realize that 10-13% is their lot. They should feel safe in the knowledge that they’ll never drop below that, as evidence of nearly a year of rotten MPs behaving like spoilt children, yet hardly a register. But they’ll never climb above what they have, everyone knows they’re a Marxist political party with a great marketing platform, that being Green.
No fan of Chloe but at least she can win an electorate seat. The only one close to that is JAG, and that’s only because she’s based in the Portland of New Zealand.
Chloe is safe, they won’t grow, but they won’t fall under. Perhaps it’s time for them to, I don’t know, start concentrating on Green policies then?
” everyone knows they’re a Marxist political party with a great marketing platform ”
Examples please ?
And before you start look up what Marxism actually is.
“If people want to call me a Marxist because I raise the issue that a few people own a lot of homes at the expense of our homeless community and employers don’t pay fair wages – so be it,” Menéndez March said. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300143973/new-green-mp-attracts-outpouring-of-abuse-and-removal-petition-in-first-week-after-ridiculing-oath-of-allegiance-to-queen?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Not my words, his.
Btw lookup the life of Marx, certainly one of the most despicable characters ever, even for the time period he lived.
Delusional nonsense.
Again, another right-winger who loses their (already limited) faculties at the mere mention of the Green party.
I mean, this doesn’t even align with the last 10 years of political history in NZ, it’s not like you need to have some deep analysis to know that this is utter and complete bullshit entirely divorced from reality — but then again, that’s home soil for those of your ilk.
It’s almost impressive just how much bullshit you can shovel in one little post, here’s another “gem”
“No fan of Chloe but at least she can win an electorate seat. The only one close to that is JAG, and that’s only because she’s based in the Portland of New Zealand.”
When you say ‘close to that’ one must assume that you’re too much of a drooling illiterate imbecile to be able to read election results, so perhaps I’ll have to spell it out for you — regrettably the forum does not permit the use of stick figures or puppets that I could pitch this at a level you’d grok, but I will try again even though it is likely in vain:
Rongotai – Official Result
VOTES COUNTED:
42,821
100.0%
LEADING CANDIDATE: GENTER, Julie Anne 16,586
So you see, what this election result is saying is that you are full of shit, and Genter DID win an electorate.
Ok I got one fact wrong. This is Wellington though. Whilst the rest of the country went right, Wellington went even further left. Is that delusional or fact?
I despise the greens because they’re the biggest lump of hypocrites on the planet. They “sometimes” chant about saving the environment (in between concerning themselves with everything else in the world that is out of their control) yet man for man (can I say that) they burn through my fossil fuels than a vast majority of the population.
Correct and how many seats did the swamp nz first party win ?none .When was the last time they won a seat ?Nats gift ACT a seat each election because they need them to form all the smoke screen dreamer policy to deflect people seeing how fucken cruel they really are .
Rongotai – Official Result
VOTES COUNTED:
42,821
100.0%
LEADING CANDIDATE: GENTER, Julie Anne 16,586
Get your facts straight, mate.
Genter won her electorate seat, none of this “the only one close to that” nonsense.
You people and your derangement when it comes to the Greens, it’s both risible and sad.
See above, yes I got a fact wrong.
Why do love the greens?
The greens need to change things up a bit .Start by dumping the co leader bull shit its not a kids rugby team .Then the leader can get on and get some decent policy on the table and get out for the public to look at .They need to strengthen their conduct rules so they dont have to put up with this type of shit every year .Then they need to start from scratch and select strong candidates not fringe dwellers .
” ‘Publish and be damned!’ was the Duke of Wellington’s famous retort to a former mistress’s blackmail attempt by publishing his love letters and declaring their affair to the world. A lesser man than the iron duke would have no doubt quietly acquiesced and paid the money.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a1644.full
Hard to think of anyone less woke than the Duke of Wellington, of course …
If Chloe doesn’t go for Option 3, then she will just confirm what we all suspect: she’s a walkover when it comes to the tough calls. Why even call for a meeting to decide to do something???? Why not just decide???? That waka jumping card should have been pulled by Chloe long ago with a couple of Zoom calls. The leadership sty;e is actually even more woke than the toxic woke in that party. There is an upshot however: this particular crop of Greens are becoming seriously un-electable.
There is an established process that must be adhered to. That’s why. It’s not a dictatorship. You ignorant cunt/dick.dicks/cunts.
Idiots stick to the established process, leaders get things done. When the established process is broken and used by the woke to destroy the party no sensible person will object if it gets bypassed.
Sweet Baby Cheeses.
Woke “it’s all about me” idiots.
These identitarians are simply in the wrong party.
ACT, with it’s “individual-before-collective” ethos is their natural home.
Greens need to bite the bullet and use this debacle for a party-wide clean up.
After all, the chinese word for crisis also means opportunity.
Identitarians natural home is the right end of the political spectrum. That message should be spelled out to them by the Greens Leadership.
I feel for the Greens, but if I were a member, I would be truly pissed off. I don’t think it is anything to do with wokeness, but to do with a self entitled individual who really doesnt give a shit about anyone else except her own righteousness. I get Chloe is trying to do the Greens values thing, but sometimes you just have to put the hard hats on in politics.
They’re a pack of narcissistic nutbars who totally deserve each other.
That sounds like the coalition.
ACT and National and NZ First Andrew, yes
Can’t see it playing out well for the Greens in the long term. Cloe may well retain her support but surely long time party voters, if not already jumped ship, will see the farce the Greens are becoming. Caputured by dodgy list candidates such as Ms Darleen Tana. Yep, she/they may have some support from the Woke membership, and the tick of approval who ticked the Green box, but this kind of shennanigans is not what the old core or want or expect of an MP. But that’s MMP for you and memories fade, priorities shift and times change. Perhaps their Woke supporters haven’t yet had enough.
Weird that the climate burning gets a mention at the end of this post.what does the Green Party have to do with the climate again?
Well said Ada ,opportunists all of them completely incapable of governing a country,a collection of silly ideologues .The business of government is not a game but rather a serious responsibility.
Actually I don’t know what Greens stand for and I don’t think they do either.
Chloe soon to bow out she’s run her course.
Nothing any more Alex it’s their ticket to a free ride.
Sharyn Green-Pyke? An, um, interesting choice. I understand that she shares her husband Warren’s distaste for any involvement of tikanga in law- did David Seymour recommend Sharyn to Mrs. Tana?
https://thelawassociation.nz/this-matter-of-tikanga/
They should have kicked her to the curb on day one and need to get her into court with her former workers and get an answer right now .
Kerb old chap.
Now I really want to know what’s in the smear file!
Mr. Bradbury. I am pretty sure Andrew Geddis was saying “no chance” in the context of a Court’s consideration of the facts and the law. It seems unlikely that he would have factored in the blackmail you have reported and the Greens’ “leadership” playing for time while they figure out how to deal with it. But hey, one good thing – we now find out that the self-serving politician isn’t a “they” after all. She’s back to walking alone.
The best all lack conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity
So this holier-than-thou woke clique want to play dirty politics now. Threatening to drop a smear file.
Interesting.
Depending on how damaging the file is, Tana may not be the only resignation in this matter.
As I pointed out this morning everything political, personal, woke or whatever counts for nothing. In the end it is the law.
Does the constitution or the rules of the Green Party have a specific clause that allows for an independent investigation of the actions of one of its mps. If it does not then the investigation was illegal, it’s findings were illegal and the pressure that forced Tana to resign was illegal.
In short, it’s not the threat of a smear file that has forced Chloe to back down. It will be legal advice to her that she fucked up.
My prediction is that there will be an out of court settlement, if the court finds that the Green Party has acted illegally. The Greens will pay Tana her two years of salary, personal damages and legal bills and Tana will resign.
Nice thesis Peter. You could be on the money.
Whaaaat. That’s crazy. If someone is credibly accused of acts illegal or beyond moral bounds…..then their representation of the political party they represent in parliament must be suspended until an investigation to exonerate or condem the claims is proven – it must be allowed as part of due process. Why would that not be? I do not want a rip off artist like Tana to stay in power on taxpayer dime.
How Chloe deals with this is make or break. I suspect they will choose option 1 as it is the least un palatable option from a Green’s perspective.
What this continual destructive effect is having on the party membership and MPs will be enormously damaging and has shown me that my party vote for them was indeed a wasted vote after much agonizing over actually not wanting to support any of the parliamentary parties at the general election last year and said so in a number of replies on this blog.
The Green party of twenty years ago and like our egalitarian values and safeguards are dead.
I had high hopes for Chloe but she may now beginning to realize that her party is compromised and has a powerful enemy within.
” If the Greens allow her to stay, it will be the death knell to Chloe’s leadership and you will see Green polling dwindle as Labour suck up Greens walking away in disgust. ”
Why any real Green believer would contemplate supporting LINO considering they are as far away as the Nasty Natz when it comes to being sympathetic to the Greens policy positions despite the Greens token appointments in the last government is vomit inducing and would mean a dereliction of any principles and standards.
The current cok government and in particular Winston will be delighting in this slow destruction of the Green party.
Martyn – Odds on that the Greens will support the waka jumping bill now…
The highly regarded Professor Geddis was unsurprisingly correct. An injunction is a device to stop the other party making things worse on your real case. The Greens think Tana has no case and tactically gave up the injunction they would have won in return for a hearing on the real matter next month. Tana got her way but only until September. She will likely lose in September 2024 as opposed to June 2025. Well done the Greens for following sound legal advice.
Re #2, please keep up TDB!! Dharleen is NOT she or her!! They is them is their pronouns.
Her lawyer told the judge this morning otherwise.
Stick to English grammar to make yourself understood is my suggestion.
Dahleen has every right to her own preferred pronouns.
Others have equal right to use the pronouns they might deem more appropriate or correct.
“They” have apparently returned to “She”.
One thing is clear, Darlene, in full destrct mode, will be the one who suffers most whatever the outcome.
The big immediate loss is the distraction this bullshit causes from the real political issue of the day – the rogue government currently destroying Aotearoa at breakneck speed.
Oh don’t be so dramatic Dingbatz. Nobody is destroying anything! Truth is, it’s the bloody Greens who have been holding back this country by milking their woke minority position under MMP with way to many list MPs for the two that were elected by the public, what a crock of shit. We should already be running 3 or 4 new-age nuclear powerstations, a few steel and aluminium mills, selling minerals, oil and other stuff to the world, and enjoying 4-lane highways from Whangarei to CHC at 120 kmph – for those who know how to drive (not Greens ’cause they all ride bikes in the rain). Just like you’d expect from an average, normal progressive 1st world country. If we had done all that, we’d be so productive, so far ahead and so wealthy, we might even afford all the socialist pipe dreams the Greens and Labour want us to have, and even the insanely onerous climate change commitments we signed up to….as if money from that fund going to poor African countries will save us from the sun’s death rays! Best thing that could happen next election? Greens get less than 5% and wind their head in for a few years.
Barely any of your diatribe is feasible.
But to entertain your fantasy, if any of it actually popped into existence, the overseas shareholders would be harvesting the profits and we’d be socialising the costs, just as happens now.
Another reminder why right wing nut jobs shouldn’t go anywhere near a ballot box.
Your suggestions would increase the wealth division and result in major social problems but if the 1% get a few more trinkets that seems to be all that is required to meet your definition of success.
I always appreciate your take on it Martyn.
You do more than any other media outlets do.
You get to the heart of what is or might be going on.
Thank you.
Agreed
The problem with the greens is a lack of Balls so to speak, Chloe should just rip the bandaid off and dump the toxic Tana asap
Careful Boss, can’t use that language now! Testosterone doesn’t have the privileged position it used to.
Helen Clarke was ruthless, respected and wielded power like a Putin Boss.
Trump has shown smears even when true are ineffectual.
Surely option 3. https://www.imghippo.com/i/mMy7x1724922135.png
List MP’s should be required to leave Parliament if they leave their party. Electorate MP’s are allowed some leeway as they have been elected by their constituents. Once this is over, I look forward to all parties in the house ageeing to pass a bill under urgency stating that list MP who resigns from their party automatically loses their seat in Parliament.
Agree 100% Millsy. This is a flaw in the current system that needs fixing.
Surely needs to be option 3 what chance the smear document consists of microaggressions, pronoun misuse with a side of crocodile tears.
So fucking funny!!! Sorry for Chloe I truly am BUT the size of the FUCK I just don’t give for the Green Party grows at a rapid pace everyday.
Doesn’t really matter about any of the options . . this is the straw that will drive the camel below 5%
Good!
Don’t be so sure.
This could be the cliques death knell.
” “If people want to call me a Marxist because I raise the issue that a few people own a lot of homes at the expense of our homeless community and employers don’t pay fair wages – so be it,” Menéndez March said.”
Being conveniently labeled a Marxist does not make you one. It sounds like a typical knee jerk label the right wing like to use to discredit anyone who threatens their entitled position by daring to point out the greed, corruption, inequity, cruelty, and discrimination of the unregulated capitalist system they profit from at the expense of many in our community.
MP’s should swear an oath of allegiance to the people who elect them rather than a foreign monarch or big party donors who get to write their own laws and destroy the soverignty of our parliament.
hahaha hilarious.
Wokes always going to eat their own tail as no one is pure enough eventually.