I think the media feeding frenzy over a fallen Golriz is ugly.
It demeans us all.
The cruel joy so many on the Right feel they can vomit up on her is a dark side of our psyche now.
This Government has gifted a $2.9Billion tax break to real estate pimps while taking from hungry children.
Denigrating Golriz is apparently more important.
It’s also bewilderingly hypocritical…
…I hope the Court is merciful and Golriz can get the help she needs and that she take time to come back stronger.
Kia Kaha.
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It’s ugly, but it’s also pretty unusual for well-heeled people to go out shop-lifting. The cameras surrounding the court appearance were voyeurism at its grubbiest, and unnecessary when everybody knows what she looks like.
A Prime Minster feeding false hope to renters that their rent will come down, ranks worse. Refusing to feed children is worser. Hating on the police while mumbling ‘good faith’ cliches is downright bizarre.
The media did look like a lynch mob here, but that’s the way that dumbos function, unfortunately.
“Worser”. Your english grammar is as bad as Nationals mathematics.
National campaigned on making offshore online casino operators pay gaming duty of 12 percent on gross betting revenue.
A Regulatory Impact Statement released by IRD predicted it would actually bring about $145m in total not $719m as predicted by National.
I know…I done it deliberate…poetic license…which is more than can be said for the Nat’s dodgy maths, but perhaps Sir Bill English is doing them again.
If you want to overthink 1+1= A National Party budget I’ll get high with you.
winona ryder
Alternatively, the Luxon regime, and its regime media, is just extremely dedicated to protecting both capitalism and noncing.
You seem to be completely infatuated with child sex. You post about it here all the time.
This is a political webblog, and we discuss topics including the ACT Party and their core values here. Get used to it
ACT core values is peodophilia?
Where on their party web site is this Mohammed, which paragraph/page?
Or are you projecting/making shit up…put up or shut up!
You sound like an ACT Party member. We don’t need you to list your policies to know what you are. You people embody your values in everything you do.
Put up or shut up Mohammed….you suggest ACT are peodophiles or covering for peodophiles, explain what you mean, tell us exactly your thinking/reasoning for posting this (many times).
Hence the ‘put up or shut up’ comment.
I’m sure you’re quite capable of reading the Hansard records of PM Question 4 on 2023-Aug-22. And you know exactly what your fellow ACT party types are doing.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Question 4 to the PM seems to be about finance. Unless that’s code for kiddie porn.
Tuesday, 22 August 2023 – Volume 771
https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansD_20230822_20230822
He should be on a watchlist
I’d be more concerned , the judge hasn’t recused herself from the case, since she and the defendant, know each other quite well, having worked together before. But we know how you like to get the ” facts ” out there, ay Martyn, without any bias
Well said owj.
Projection much?
I hope she can get the help she needs. Mental health is not selective and can lead you in strange paths. .Unless you have been there you cannot understand .I am not a Green supporter but this is personal not political.
Well said, @Trevor.
She is accused of stealing a 600+ dollar shirt. No shirt’s worth that much. Reminds me of the way the cops used to wildly exaggerate the value of drugs in someone’s possession when they caught them. Just to make it seem worse.
Not necessarily so. The price of one particular cardigan surprised me, but a local retailer said it was not much for cashmere; bags and decent leather handbags in particular are very pricey. Top label clothing can be astronomically priced, even if it originates from the same source as cheaper goods and is just as poorly finished off. I expect that’s why certain sorts of people like sporting brands with visible logos, just like gang insignia. Paula B once boasted to a Nat gathering about the cost of her shoes, about $700 I think.
I guess that makes theft ok then?
Yes the real thief here is the retailer who probably bought the shirt for $20 from china .
THIS!
Exactery.
Maybe a bit of exaggeration there @GW, but they’re all into it.
Sadly, the whole thing has ‘funny’ aspects to it.
It’d not surprise me If GG was having a go at self-appointed sophustikaydid entrepreneurial, gorgeous specimens desperately trying to show the plebians the way. It must be SUCH a struggle for them.
I’ve told all the cost accountants around me that seem to be in abundant supply lately that I don’t have the emotional capital to feel sorry for the retailers – there are better causes to attempt to rescue even if i had a mind to do so.
That bloody handbag looks familiar too. I’ve seen a rellie who has one just like it.
I suspect it might either go in the recycling before too long, or given to a slave
You still don’t understand capitalism. A product is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. If someone is prepared to pay $600, then it’s worth $600.
Personally I buy my clothes 2nd hand from an OP Shop.
“It costs a lot of money to look this cheap” – famous Steve Tyler (Aerosmith) quote
Be careful @ BG or the fashionistas will be desperately trying to find ways of bringing back ‘grunge’. The way things are going, that’ll happen anyway, and naturally. But it could be a big threat to the gorgeous people.
Obviously you are a Warehose shopper.
guerilla surgeon said “worth that much” not “cost that much”. People place different values of worth on a range of objects that often have no relationship to the cost of producing that object. Personally, I don’t think that a $600 shirt would make me any happier than a $100 shirt although I understand that others would feel differently. Unless the shirt is made of precious metals then the raw material for the shirt is probably not that different so you are mostly paying for the brand name & supply chain margins.
My heart bleeds for Golriz, I believe that there are mental health issues involved here, and like you Martin I hope she gets the help she needs to recover.
She did it for the thrill. End of story.
She did it because she is a serial thief.
She was a Member of Parliament as well as the Green’s justice spokesperson while at the same time shoplifting very expensive clothes she did not need – no shit there is interest.
Imagine there would also be interest in Paul Goldsmith as Minister of Justice ‘taxing’ the dairy down the road of M&M’s.
Another Green MP is now helping that some media pressure off Golriz, so that’s good…
She will be treated leniently by the court that’s a certainty even though she is a thief.
Nothing like the $52,000 theft by Luxon.
National are thieves and burglers.
Like you Bob, she is in serious need of help!
No I’m fine thank you.
It’s her done in politics for stealing a few frocks, which is odd, considering the acting PM tried to steal 52k off the taxpayer
good comment
It was not steal it was a legitimate claim for expenses which is done all the time .Wether the claim was a sensible call is another matter but you cannot draw a parallel between the two cases
Golriz may have PTSD from her early years, and had a meltdown of some kind in addition. Hopefully she will not be jailed for lifting overpriced bourgeois threads, and will get a light sentence and some suitable health care.
The media are dancing on her situation where many others barely get noticed–such as the Natzo Barbara Kuriger animal cruelty case which involved her actively harassing officials as well.
It matters not that Ms Ghahraman knows the Judge, go to many senior figures in NZ and who knows who is easy to discover and there are lots of cross overs in a small country. How about Shane Jones with his massive conflict of interest caught between the Mining and Fishing industries? No, this is a clear misogynist, racist, anti Green attack.
“Golriz may have PTSD from her early years” – PTSD from being the child of middle-class professional parents living 1000km from the front line in the Iran – Iraq war yes?
No wonder she was in the Greens . .
Or Shane (Shame) Jones watching porn on his taxpayers ‘credit card?
Or J Ardern accepting freebie designer clothes and jewellery “ to showcase them”, when actually paying for the goods would have showcased them equally well, if not better.
Why shouldn’t she give new fashion an airing? But then it could be argued for NZ design and made, but not for imports I think.
yep Barb got away with attempting to pervert the course of justice .Luxon paid to get her off
It doesn’t matter a judge knows the defendant? You sure about that?
What more worse shoplifting that didn’t hurt anyone physically and can be remedied through compensation or physically harming an individual thru sexual predatory behavior? She should get a discharge with conviction and repay the money owed because she isn’t a recidivist offender and these charges have been dealt with together through her guilty plea end of story.
I like your solution. Makes sense.Bob the fist won’t like it though.
Exaggeration is what prosecution use against defendants they’ll throw 6 or 7 charges against an individual using scary language to depict the defendant in a negative light, acknowledging that a couple will stick or give the defendant an option to plea out works all the time.
The unpalatable fact is that a deeply flawed system attracts equally flawed people. Politicians have different values to ordinary people. They seek attention, fame and material well being. They are fascinated by the rich and famous, and they want to be rich and famous themselves. Sometimes those aspirations take them into the realm of abnormal and anti-social behaviours. Evidently the Green Party politicians are no exception to this general rule, even if many of the party’s supporters believe that they should be and imagine that they are. Instead of ignoring or denying the obvious reality of Westminster politics Green Party voters should be asking themselves how they can become part of a more trustworthy political system.
Well said GF.
The TV media was in a bind. Either follow her as they did, and be accused, as above, of a “feeding frenzy”. Or, ignore her, and be accused of being sheltered by her left-wing buddies in TV.
Similarly, if she’s sentenced, the courts will be accused of failing to acknowledge her PTSD. Or if she gets a sentence, the judge will be accused of being her buddy, and politicians getting preferential treatment over “ordinary” thieves.
Solomon, where are you?
Zero tolerance. She deserves to get named, shamed and blasted in the media!
Sorry but this wasn’t a one off slip something in the bag on impulse crime. Read the statement of facts. It was premeditated. She took extra padding in her bag (and an extra bag) to be discarded to make room for her stolen items. She had people with her that must have known what she was doing, sometimes multiple people. If it was any one else it would be described as a shoplifting gang. I think shes being let off quite easy really.
Premeditated. How long has she been doing it?
months at least.
Couldn’t she just steal some smokes or grog instead.
Dirty filth pump trolls in this column!
Fat Tory bastards…
Paul Buchanan has just posted a piece on how the justice system and media have for overtly political reasons suppressed the identity of a right-wing political figure charged much more serious criminal offending than Ms Ghahraman
Now now Geoff, you aren’t thinking about this like a libertarian.
Yes, it is true that a prominent official of a certain political party did indeed get caught engaging in libertarian practices, and stands accused of abusing numerous young boys who he was in a position of responsibility for. But, in the free market for child sex that libertarians advocate for, who knows what the parents have sold the innocence of their kids for? Probably at least a little more than the value of the materials and labour (about $5) that went into the clothes that Golriz stole. But perhaps it would have been less than the retail value of the clothes- and to a libertarian, that makes it less serious.
As someone who wouldn’t vote for that party, you might consider that a monstrous comparison. To libertarians, it’s just good free market thinking.
“The cruel joy so many on the Right feel they can vomit up on her is a dark side of our psyche now.”
Mostly bitter men who are angry that beautiful women have always rejected their advances.
Envy racism and sexism is not confined to the right
David that’s worse than pathetic.
That’s pretty twisted logic
Years.
Judge Maria Pecotic should recuse herself from the case as there is a conflict of interest.
Most definitely Chris.
no sympathy for an entitled rich woman…would ‘mental health’ get a teen maori lad off?