At what point do we turn away in disgust and sack the Israeli Ambassador from NZ?

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Well, well, well. What do we have here?

US intelligence casts doubt on Israeli claims of UNRWA-Hamas links, report says

Intel report says some accusations that aid workers participated in Hamas attacks credible but could not be independently verified.

A US intelligence assessment of Israel’s claims that UN aid agency staff members participated in the Hamas attack on 7 October said some of the accusations were credible, though could not be independently verified, while also casting doubt on claims of wider links to militant groups.

The assault precipitated a full-scale invasion by Israel of Gaza that has killed upwards of 30,000 Palestinians. Earlier this year, Israel accused 12 employees of the United Nations Reliefs and Works Agency (UNRWA) of participating in the 7 October attacks alongside Hamas. It also said 10% of all UNRWA workers were affiliated with Hamas.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the intelligence report, released last week, assessed with “low confidence” that a handful of staff had participated in the attack, indicating that it considered the accusations to be credible though it could not independently confirm their veracity.

It cast doubt, however, on accusations that the UN agency was collaborating with Hamas in a wider way. The Journal said the report mentioned that although the UNRWA does coordinate with Hamas in order to deliver aid and operate in the region, there was a lack of evidence to suggest it partnered with the group.

It added that Israel has not “shared the raw intelligence behind its assessments with the US”.

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In addition, the report notes Israel’s dislike towards the UNRWA, two sources familiar with it told the Journal. “There is a specific section that mentions how Israeli bias serves to mischaracterize much of their assessments on UNRWA and says this has resulted in distortions,” one source reportedly said.

The four-page report by the National Intelligence Council was circulated across US government officials last week, the Journal reported. Established in 1979, the NIC comprises senior and veteran intelligence analysts who work alongside US policymakers on American policy

Let me see if I can get this completely straight.

The CIA are now casting doubt on the allegation that a dozen UNRWA workers were secretly working for Hamas and explicitly rule out a wider interaction?

The very same deceitful allegation that the NZ Right picked up and screamed, ‘see a dozen workers might have helped Hamas, that justifies our ethnic cleaning war crime with almost 30000 dead”!

The very same allegation The Taxpayer’s Union used to demand cutting aid to UNRWA?

The very same allegation that was pimped on The Platform?

The very same allegation that spooked Luxon into demanding a freeze on aid that Winston had to clean up because Luxon is an easily spooked clown and his right wing handlers are sensitive to The Platform and Taxpayer’s Union?

THAT FUCKING REPORT?

Turns out it’s all bullshit now does it?

I always said that even if this was true, it doesn’t justify cutting the aid and now this entire allegation looks like another Israeli lie!

At what point do we turn away in disgust and sack the Israeli Ambassador from NZ?

They are shooting children in the head with snipers, they are bombing children in cars and leaving them to die, they are targeting civilians trying to get aid, they are shooting people waving white flags and they are committing assassinations in hospitals.

Israel is committing a real time ethnic cleansing war crime.

At what point do we turn away in disgust and sack the Israeli Ambassador from NZ?

Can we just agree on this as a people with mana, that if Israel does indeed invade Rafah, that is the red line that we collectively acknowledge as the final war crime we will tolerate, turn away in disgust and sack the Israeli Ambassador from NZ?

Come on, enough is enough.

At some point, we must as a people turn away in disgust and sack the Israeli Ambassador from NZ!

The invasion of Rafah must be our red line.

 

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24 COMMENTS

    • Yes .

      I remember that, after the Feb 22nd earthquake 5 Israeli Tourist hurriedly left the country in hours.
      The cop’s found 5 stolen NZ passports in their van parked up in the Central city.
      Yes the Israeli ambassador should have had the boot after that.

  1. You cannot rust Israeli reports. There is tradition of lies from that source. The Five-Eyes is also a source of also information. They told NZ that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to justify another war. They lied to us. The five-Eyes is a conduit for political spin.

    • I mean, you can trust them to some degree. Whatever accusation they make, it is a confession.

      When they made absurd accusations that Hamas was making chemical and biological weapons, they were simply referring to their own use of weapons of mass destructions, from Operation Cast Thy Bread, to their more recent poisonings, to their use of the chemical weapon white phosphorous to target civilians.

      When they made up their ludicrous rape accusations, they were simply admitting to their own common practice against Palestinians… men, women, and especially children.

      Even the laughable claim that the Palestinian resistance cooked babies in ovens on October 7 is something that the zionists do themselves. In the attack on Deir Yassin, the forerunners of the so-called ‘Israeli Defence Forces’ threw Abdel Rauf, the son of the local baker, into the bakery oven to burn him alive.

      This is a celebrated ‘novelty kill’ amongst the zionists, though they find burning babies in general to be very funny. They often celebrate the 2015 burning of 18 month old Ali Dawabsheh with chants like “Where is Ali? There’s no Ali. Ali is burned. On the fire. Ali is on the grill”.

      And as for the war against the Iraqi people, ‘israel’ and its current leader, Netanyahu, were the main driver behind the attack on Iraq as part of the ‘Clean Break’ strategy that was imposed on Bush and Biden.

  2. Even if it were true, it’s a very small number considering the number of people actually employed. My rule of thumb is that in any large enough group, there are bound to be a small number of fuckwits.

  3. “At what point do we turn away in disgust and sack the Israeli Ambassador from NZ?” That point was passed several months ago.

  4. Removing the IDA’s foreign spokesperson is a moot point. Considering the fact the since the war began we have had two governments in this country and both have expressed confidence in the IDA’s ambassador despite the holocaust being inflicted on the Palestinian people in their own land.

    New Zealand’s adherence to its five eyes commitment’s and allowing the USA to dictate what our media can and cannot comment or write about unless its pro IDA due to ” sensitivities ” and honouring our commitments means the following Kiwi myths are just that myths.

    New Zealand is a liberal free democracy.
    New Zealand’s press and media are in no way biased and enjoys nonpartisan freedom.
    New Zealand is a sovereign state.
    New Zealand is in no way corrupt.
    New Zealand’s position is to stand against tyranny and genocide against people in a foreign land.
    New Zealand supports human rights.
    New Zealand does not participate in illegal wars.

    • Apologies it is the IDF not the IDA.

      CNN RUNS GAZA COVERAGE PAST JERUSALEM TEAM OPERATING UNDER SHADOW OF IDF CENSOR

      ” Like all foreign news organizations operating in Israel, CNN’s Jerusalem bureau is subject to the rules of the Israel Defence Forces’ censor, which dictates subjects that are off-limits for news organizations to cover, and censors articles it deems unfit or unsafe to print. As The Intercept reported last month, the military censor recently restricted eight subjects, including security cabinet meetings, information about hostages, and reporting on weapons captured by fighters in Gaza. In order to obtain a press pass in Israel, foreign reporters must sign a document agreeing to abide by the dictates of the censor “

  5. All true comments.
    NZers should know better.
    The way Israel was created by white colonial powers, founded on Zionism “none of the people, all of the land,” it is and was always going to be a tragic racist violent settler colonial mistake.
    Now the world can see, and like apartheid, segregation, nazism beore it, Zionism’s time is at an end.
    End the genocide.
    End the occupation.
    End Zionism.
    Build a new identity, 1 state or 2. There are many post-colonial societies in the world willing to help. But the violent domination and oppression of the Palestinians ends here.

  6. The ‘Greyzone’ an independent media outlet whose journalist are of jewish descent have also done work on debunking more zionazi lies. Apartheid Israel needs to be dismantled not only because it practices crimes against humanity but it threatens danger to humanity by enacting its never again policy (Samson options) using its nukes on its enemies that would spell the end of times.

    https://thegrayzone.com/

  7. Israel is guilty of genocide and the NZ government is complicit. The Israeli embassy must be demolished and those in our government responsible for the mass murder and ethnic cleansing arrested.

    • The facts clearly show Israel has told lie after lie after lie after lie in a concerted and co-ordinated campaign of atrocity propaganda ,,,, they have lied on such a scale that they have effectively ‘raped the truth’ beyond recognition and nothing they say can be taken at face value or trusted …

      … a Usa intelligence report is belatedly and minimally acknowledging this fact in relation to one of Israels fabrications

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      https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-supporters-are-some-of-the
      ” The other day I shared a report from an American doctor saying that IDF snipers have been picking off Gazan children with single shots to the head, and I again received a comment from someone saying “Fuck around and find out.”

      They’re essentially standing over a pile of child corpses and puffing their chests like a guy who just won a pub brawl.

      It might seem kind of petty to focus on individual comments from random social media accounts, but this happens so often, and I see other people talking about it too — I just saw a screenshot of a guy saying “fuck around and find out” in response to that gut-wrenching photo of a dead Palestinian girl ripped apart by an Israeli airstrike in Rafah earlier this month. ….”

      “Every single day these last four and a half months I’ve been inundated with comments from Israel supporters excusing the most monstrous acts imaginable in the most monstrous ways imaginable. People calling for the total destruction of Gaza. People saying the Gazans deserve what is happening to them. Saying the sickest shit you can possibly think of in response to news of terrible things happening to innocent children.

      Over the years I’ve butted heads with pretty much every political faction in the English-speaking world at one point or another, and I can honestly say that Israel supporters are by far the absolute worst. No political faction I have ever interacted with is as immoral and dishonest, or so frequently says things that are so jaw-droppingly disgusting I am sure I must be misinterpreting it at first. I’ve never tangled with a more odious group of people.”

      https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc92d888a-e3b6-414a-a97d-4d9b8357039d_502x707.png

      • The embittered Ms Johnstone, like your whiny Syrian Girl, is obviously too busy with her agitprop to notice calls for the destruction of Israel. Or the progress of the jihad in Africa with its displacement of millions. Or the restraints being placed on swimming pools in Europe.
        PS Did you notice the illuminating title of Johnstone’s next article; “US Officials Admit They’re Literally Just Lying To The Public About Russia”?

        • Syrian girl shows the irrefutable proof that Israel helps and partners up with Islamic extremists,,, in suc a way that even you can not lie your way out of it Ann E

          ”’ Even better is that Ann the Extremist to thick and stupid to condemn Israel for supporting and helping these terrorists https://youtu.be/8clMNOmX_kk?t=189 ,,, making her one of the top supporters of terrorism at this site ,,, along with Gaby.

          Ann E claims it’s anti-Semitic to criticize her support of, and Israels involvement with terrorism ….

          Which just shows how people like her and Gaby abuse the term ,,, and like bad jokes are not to be taken seriously…..

          …. But if we were to take them seriously allow me to declare myself the good type of Anti-semite 🙂 ,,, that’s the type that condemns Israel doing the things like Martyn factually described…..

          ie – “They are shooting children in the head with snipers, they are bombing children in cars and leaving them to die, they are targeting civilians trying to get aid, they are shooting people waving white flags and they are committing assassinations in hospitals.”

          Zionist Israel will soon enough take its place in history alongside Nazi Germany ,,,

          here’s some Israeli media being more honest and upfront about the present state of Israel than what western media reports https://youtu.be/63Zj691F8Iw?t=363

          No wonder Gaza Is A War-Sore Ghetto ,,,,Israel is now into the killing/extermination by starvation phase of their plan.

          Ethnic cleansing is dirty depraved war crime ,,, again

    • Well anyone with half a brain has zero trust in Israeli reports. Expertly finding tunnels that they actually built in the first place is a classic.

  8. Apologies it is the IDF not the IDA.

    CNN RUNS GAZA COVERAGE PAST JERUSALEM TEAM OPERATING UNDER SHADOW OF IDF CENSOR

    ” Like all foreign news organizations operating in Israel, CNN’s Jerusalem bureau is subject to the rules of the Israel Defence Forces’ censor, which dictates subjects that are off-limits for news organizations to cover, and censors articles it deems unfit or unsafe to print. As The Intercept reported last month, the military censor recently restricted eight subjects, including security cabinet meetings, information about hostages, and reporting on weapons captured by fighters in Gaza. In order to obtain a press pass in Israel, foreign reporters must sign a document agreeing to abide by the dictates of the censor ”

    https://theintercept.com/2024/01/04/cnn-israel-gaza-idf-reporting/

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