So is David Seymour’s race baiting racist redneck banjo twanging cross burning culture war revenge fantasy Treaty Principles Referendum divisive?


Remember when TDB told you that ACT were a massive danger and their radical hard right political agenda could destroy the very fabric of our society and that if the Wellington Woke Wanks kept handing ACT culture war ammunition that we on the Real Left couldn’t win?

Remember that?

Remember the 3 years of me warning the Identity Politics middle class activists that their cancel culture bullshit and myopic focus on .1% issues would fuck us?

Remember that?

Yeah, well all that has come to pass and ACT are now implementing hard right romper stomper hatred as social policy.

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Thanks Wokies, I notice many of you are very, very, very quiet now on the Twitter.

We get it Wokies, your self created identity hysterics are far more important than the shared humanity between us.

Please fuck up.

So is David Seymour’s race baiting racist redneck banjo twanging cross burning culture war revenge fantasy Treaty Principles Referendum divisive?

David Seymour denies Treaty Principles Bill divisive, Willie Jackson calls it ‘most divisive of last generation’

ACT Party leader David Seymour denies he’s being divisive as he pushes his Treaty Principles Bill.  

He made his State of the Nation speech in Auckland on Sunday and claimed it’s the people calling the debate racist who are instigating the trouble.  

…of course his race baiting racist redneck banjo twanging cross burning culture war revenge fantasy Treaty Principles Referendum is divisive!

It’s a bullshit mix of right wing nonsense and populist hate that uses our historic ignorance to the damage of colonialism, because the vast majority of settlers benefited from taking 90% of Māori land within a century and never paying the full value back!

The idea that at the time of the Treaty that 80 000 Māori were accepting the 2000 Pakeha as their masters is inane!

Let’s be very clear that ACT are channelling ATLAS Network attack lines.

The ATLAS Network is the Hard Right Think Tank that ACT have used as a blue print for their hard right assault against the State! George Monbiot explains what ATLAS Network is

A crash programme of massive cuts; demolishing public services; privatising public assets; centralising political power; sacking civil servants; sweeping away constraints on corporations and oligarchs; destroying regulations that protect workers, vulnerable people and the living world; supporting landlords against tenants; criminalising peaceful protest; restricting the right to strike. Anything ring a bell?

…demolishing public services, privatising public assets; centralising political power; sacking civil servants; sweeping away constraints on corporations and oligarchs; destroying regulations that protect workers, vulnerable people and the living world; supporting landlords against tenants; criminalising peaceful protest AND restricting the right to strike?


You’ve all been played like bitches by ATLAS and none of you even knew what the fuck ATLAS was!

Monbiot continues…

Coincidence? Not at all. Milei’s programme was heavily influenced by Argentinian neoliberal thinktanks belonging to something called the Atlas Network, a global coordinating body that promotes broadly the same political and economic package everywhere it operates. It was founded in 1981 by a UK citizen, Antony Fisher. Fisher was also the founder of the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA), one of the first members of the Atlas Network.

The IEA created, to a remarkable degree, Liz Truss’s political platform. In a video conversation on the day of her “mini” budget with another member of the institute, its then director general, Mark Littlewood, observed: “We’re on the hook for it now. If it doesn’t work it’s your fault and mine.” It didn’t work – in fact, it crashed spectacularly, at great cost to us all – but, thanks to the UK’s media, the BBC included, which continue to treat these fanatical corporate lobbyists as purveyors of holy writ, they’re off the hook.

Last year, the IEA was platformed on British media an average of 14 times a day: even more often than before the disaster it helped inflict on the UK. Scarcely ever was it challenged about who funds it or whom it represents. The three peers nominated by Truss in her resignation honours list have all worked for or with organisations belonging to the Atlas Network (Matthew Elliott, TaxPayers’ Alliance; Ruth Porter, IEA; Jon Moynihan, IEA). Now, like US supreme court justices, they have been granted lifelong powers to shape our lives, without democratic consent. Truss also put forward Littlewood, but his reward for wrecking people’s lives was blocked by the House of Lords appointments commission.

Nothing has been learned: these corporate lobby groups still mould our politics. Policy Exchange, which, as Rishi Sunak has admitted, “helped us draft” the UK’s vicious new anti-protest laws, is a former member of the Atlas Network. We might describe certain policies as being Milei’s or Bolsonaro’s, or Truss’s or Johnson’s or Sunak’s, but they’re all variations on the same themes, hatched and honed by junktanks belonging to the same network. Those presidents and prime ministers are just the faces the programme wears.

And who, in turn, are the junktanks? Many refuse to divulge who funds them, but as information has trickled out we have discovered that the Atlas Network itself and many of its members have taken money from funding networks set up by the Koch brothers and other rightwing billionaires, and from oil, coal and tobacco companies and other life-defying interests. The junktanks are merely the intermediaries. They go into battle on behalf of their donors, in the class war waged by the rich against the poor. When a government responds to the demands of the network, it responds, in reality, to the money that funds it.

The dark-money junktanks, and the Atlas Network, are a highly effective means of disguising and aggregating power. They are the channel through which billionaires and corporations influence politics without showing their hands, learn the most effective policies and tactics for overcoming resistance to their agenda, and then spread these policies and tactics around the world. This is how nominal democracies become new aristocracies.

They also seem to be adept at shaping public opinion. For example, around the world, neoliberal junktanks have not only lobbied for extreme anti-protest measures, but have successfully demonised environmental protesters as “extremists” and “terrorists”. This might help to explain why peaceful environmental campaigners blocking a road are routinely punched, kicked and spat upon, and in some places run over or threatened with guns, by other citizens, while farmers or truckers blocking a road are not. It might also explain why there is scarcely a murmur of media coverage or public concern when extreme penalties are imposed: such as the six-month prison sentence handed in December to the climate campaigner Stephen Gingell for slow-marching along a London street.

…that’s right, all the crazy right wing bullshit getting played here has been spun by the Atlas Network.

We’ve been played like the bitches that we is NuZilind.

Played like the bitches that we is!

I believe co-governance is a strength, not a weakness!

In my entire 50 years of life, I as a Pakeha male have never once been penalised in any way shape or form by any measure to help Māori!

I don’t see co-governance as the faux apartheid some manufacture it as.

Calling He Puapua ‘a secret agenda’ is disingenuous to the words ‘agenda’, ‘secret’ and ‘a’.

The idea that a barely read wish list of indigenous hopes and aspirations that could live up to the promise of the Treaty would ever get fully implemented is Trump like in its delusion of imaginary white fears.

An upper house 50-50 split between Pakeha and Māori to decide Treaty Legislation has been an idea I’ve been arguing for years now!

For a majority MMP Labour Government that could barely build houses to suddenly transform into a super hero for Indigenous rights who manages to overnight re-write the entire constitutional framework of NZ by stealth is so farcical in its possible threat delivery that you may as well imagine a child with a water pistol up against a laser guided Jet fighter.

He Puapua was a wish list of hopes and aspirations, it was not a secret blueprint for the takeover of a country by radical Māori and attempting to frame it as such is bordering on QAnon conspiracy fantasy.

Likewise with 3 Waters and the claim it’s Māori stealing da water.

We wouldn’t be having discussion over who owns the water of John Key hadn’t sold our hydro assets!

Remember how the ruling in that case shaped this issue?

The Court said Māori did have an interest in water and it was up to the Crown to negotiate that.

Labour used the co-governance model built by National and ACT to deliver on that legal obligation!

Māori are a break peddle on neoliberalism and their views can ensure privatisation and foreign ownership stops!

The Treaty of Waitangi, and a Māori worldview are taking a greater role in shaping how we interact with the world

For decades, the Treaty of Waitangi has formed a part of New Zealand’s approach to trade. Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta is kicking it up a notch. National Correspondent Lucy Craymer explains.

When the epochal Uruguay Round of global trade talks was happening almost four decades ago, New Zealand’s chief negotiator had a premonition.

Tim Groser reckoned the global trade arrangements being formed might – in ways he could not anticipate – come into conflict with the Treaty of Waitangi. In 1986, with a Labour Government led by David Lange in office, and vast economic and social reforms sweeping change across the nation at a breakneck speed, the modern significance of Te Tiriti was only starting to come into view.

“We could see a potential political problem arising whereby people would want to do things that we couldn’t quite foresee, in respect to the treaty,” Groser says. “We needed to avoid trade agreements getting in the way of that.”

The negotiation brought about the biggest reform to global trade ever and led to the creation of the World Trade Organisation. A clause was included allowing New Zealand to meet its treaty obligations, even if this meant breaching the global agreement.

Groser says it went through with no controversy and little publicity, even in New Zealand.

“I don’t think a single country raised a question let alone an objection. It’s not surprising. Why would they? Countries have bigger fish to fry,” he says.

A version of this clause, which allows the government to deliver on Te Tiriti ahead of its free trade obligations, has been included in every agreement since.

Most Pakeha don’t know that the Treaty is our out clause in free trade deals!

We can side track the exploitation from global corporations by using the Treaty!

For me, I love the Treaty because of the relationship of responsibility it immediately sets up between the Crown and its people.

I believe Pakeha have to actually understand that the Treaty applies directly to them as well because it explains the relationship between the state and its citizens!

The Treaty sets out the obligations of the Crown to protect the rights of its people. We deserve as a nation to entrench the Treaty as the basis of our constitutional relationship so we can force Governments to protect our rights rather than strip us of them.

Treaty’s are to be honoured, not settled!

Pakeha want to gloss over the theft and confiscation of indigenous lands because it’s a shameful denial of the promise of a Treaty between two peoples and when you consider the paltry compensation that has been paid back to Maori via the Waitangi Tribunal, it’s a mere $1.4 Billion.

$1.4 Billion for confiscating the majority of NZ??? What is most egregious is that some Pakeha have the audacity to claim that pathetic reparation is a ‘gravy train’.

One of the problems with NZ politics is that we have a unicameral Parliament, that means we just have one chamber with no upper house. This means NZs Parliament is one of the most powerful Parliaments in the world. It allows for legislation to be read straight into law and is one of the reasons why the neoliberal revolution was so ruthless and impossible to reverse.

I think one solution to the Waitangi Tribunal ruling is to consider a NZ Parliament Upper House that has 50-50 representation between Maori and Pakeha. If Sovereignty was never signed away, then the Government of today has a responsibility beyond paltry compensation for past injustices , it must provide real power sharing solutions on Treaty issues.

Having a 50-50 Upper House with the power to delay legislation that was not in the best interests of the Nation when it comes to Treaty issues would stop Government’s from fire sales of national assets and prevent things like the Foreshore and Seabed legislation from becoming law.

An Upper House would be seen as a guardian of the Treaty for the maintenance of public well being over private gain, it would show real power sharing and for Pakeha, it would represent a political body that protects their public interests as much as Māori interests.

Now do I for one second believe we can have an actual debate on these very important topics?

No. Fucking. Way!

Those who secretly burn crosses will have a field day under the fake veneer of ‘debate’.

This is going to be a cluster fuck of madness that Seymour will not be able to contain once he releases it.

There is a dark part of the NuZilind mindset that is Cracker at his worst and this debate isn’t being held in good faith, it’s being held because the worst angels of our nature were stirred during this election and vomited out at the other with force and toxicity.

Social media timelines are about to get KKK level gross.

The only hope we have is to actually step up and debate the issue in good faith because co-governance IS a unique strength that can build us, but we need the skills to debate without cancelling which will play into the hands of extremists.

Pakeha need to appreciate and embrace the Treaty as our birthright to be here and acknowledge that it demands obligations from the State that protects our rights and self sovereignty.

The whole concept of self sovereignty as agency is the very definition of liberal progressive democratic values.

The problem is we are having this debate not in good faith, but to satisfy the race baiting thirst of the most fringe elements of NZ Society.

So is David Seymour’s race baiting racist redneck banjo twanging cross burning culture war revenge fantasy Treaty Principles Referendum divisive?

Of course it is, but the influence of the ATLAS Network that is using culture war ammunition the woke handed the hard right is far more dangerous and seeing as the NZ mainstream media is utterly peppered with ATLAS Network sympathisers, you’ll never hear any of this!

The New Zealand Initiative is one of these  ATLAS Network far right think tanks. Luke Malpass, Stuff’s Political Editor, was the former NZ Initiative Policy wonk, he ain’t going to tell you jack shit about the ATLAS Network and its influence over ACT policy is he?

The mainstream media in NZ is utterly over run with NZ Initiative and Taxpayer Union influence and they are peddling Atlas Network right wing chicanery.

We are getting destroyed because the middle class woke identity politics activists keep wanting to hand ATLAS Network and their proxies culture war ammunition we can’t win.

So is David Seymour’s race baiting racist redneck banjo twanging cross burning culture war revenge fantasy Treaty Principles Referendum divisive?

Oh sleepy hobbits, that’s just the beginning of how bad shit is going to get.

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  1. If the Crown intended to be a co government partnership with Maori it would have been explicitly stated in the English version of the ToW.

    • The english version of TOW does promise Maori full undisturbed protection of our taonga, fisheries etc so has this happened nah!

      • “Forests & Fisheries” were added to ToW ~50 years ago by the Waitangi Tribunal.

        Contra proferentem is historically used for commercial law, despite the best efforts of the usual suspects (Waitangi Tribunal, UN etc) to conflate it to Govts agreements. However, I will acknowledge that as the signatures are (mostly, not all) on the Maori version, this is the relevant document.

    • What Crown intended is not relevant, because contracts, where more than one version is drafted and signed, should be based on the version that is mutually understood, and more importantly, the one that isn’t to the benefit of the drafter more than the other version.

      • Yes P- man the indigenous version should take precedent as it is more likely to be the truth or closer to was actually agreed, it is a Latin term contra pro ferentum.

    • Settle down don. In this case:
      met·​a·​phor ˈme-tə-ˌfȯr
      also -fər
      Synonyms of metaphor
      : a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money)
      broadly : figurative language
      compare simile
      : an object, activity, or idea treated as a metaphor : symbol sense 2
      or metaphorical
      Thunder struck.

  2. David Seymour is New Zealand’s GREATEST Maori, the only person within the New Zealand Parliament who is willing to speak up for everyday New Zealanders.

    • Define everyday New Zealanders and how many parts Maori is David?
      I consider myself an ” everyday New Zealander”
      yet he doesn’t speak for me.

    • We will see how grate Seemore is up in Waitangi when he has to face his people who he is kicking in the guts.
      To say he is the greatest Maori is an insult to my ancestors. Perhaps he is one the greatest kupapa of modern times.

    • Gee Zelda, i wish had as much money as ‘everyday New Zealanders’. If he truly spoke for everyday NZ he would have more than 8%

  3. What’s deeply concerning and more than a little depressing is that david seymour gets so much attention.
    RNZ for example all but cups his little Blue testicles.
    I don’t know who seymour is, who does? But I do know WHAT he is.
    And it’s no better explained than here. Know your enemy.
    The ever brilliant George Monbiot of The Guardian.
    “Some psychologists believe our values tend to cluster around certain poles, described as “intrinsic” and “extrinsic”. People with a strong set of intrinsic values are inclined towards empathy, intimacy and self-acceptance. They tend to be open to challenge and change, interested in universal rights and equality, and protective of other people and the living world.
    People at the extrinsic end of the spectrum are more attracted to prestige, status, image, fame, power and wealth. They are strongly motivated by the prospect of individual reward and praise. They are more likely to objectify and exploit other people, to behave rudely and aggressively and to dismiss social and environmental impacts. They have little interest in cooperation or community. People with a strong set of extrinsic values are more likely to suffer from frustration, dissatisfaction, stress, anxiety, anger and compulsive behaviour.”
    See? Seymour is a compulsive wanker.

  4. The english version of TOW does promise Maori full undisturbed protection of our taonga, fisheries,etc so has this happened nah!

    • Well, sheet it home to the cunts responsible. Geoffrey Palmer, in the case of the stolen fisheries, the disgusting corrupt and worthless wanker.

  5. The Culture Of Make Believe, by Derrick Jensen.

    This is a must read and everything else he has ever written.
    The Cartels have walked straight into NZ (especially Dunedin’s port) and set up shop. It isn’t cops and robbers and patched gangs it’s Cartel lawyers, crooked cops, and courts being used to do hit jobs on people’s reputations and freedom.

    An infiltrated network of professionals working with criminal drug Cartels. Dunedin is a cesspit of corruption. The hit jobs are destroying innocent peoples lives. Just read the ODT court news to see some of the public hangings of Cartel victims. You won’t ever see a bust of the massive drug rings here. This is how it is getting into the country. Call it out and you WILL be set up by the drug Cartels evil cops. Step foot on the body corporate and DOC land the drug Cartel has stolen ownership of up at Waipori Falls and watch this nest of parasites in action. It is a rotten carcass a cesspit of lawyers, and dirty cops. Going on year after year after year.

    This is normalised down here. The wokies think it is left leaning, when it is completely corrupt. A massive fraud. You can’t even make this shit up. Peaky Blinders of dumb Dunoes.

    Witch hunting ‘”SCOTTISH” style is alive and kicking in dunny brush Dunedin.

    • fascinating stuff there Kate.
      Any chance of a full write up? Dunedin is my hometown, so I am genuinely interested.
      Waipori Falls has always been public land.

      • Google Waipori Falls and click on news, you can read between the lines.
        North and South article by George Driver.
        Also the Spinoff article, The Unhappy Valley, by George Driver……. it’s right in your face corruption.

  6. This is the demon unleashed by the Lange government.

    I find it incredible that the clowns of Labour were advocating for expanded hate speech laws to help Juliet Moses and the other supporters of the zionist regime attack anyone who opposes them, while allowing advocacy for neoliberalism- which is an ideology that advocates and has always advocated mass death- to go unpunished. That freak Seymour should have been arrested on his return to New Zealand.

    • Mohammed:
      Are you in agreement with the koran, follow every hadith and word?
      Do you agree that any Muslim should follow the hadith that ‘if you find a Jew, you kill him’
      A simple yes or no will suffice, and if no…are you not a true Muslim?

      • Are you a Christian? Do you have a tattoo? Do you wear clothes made of more than one fibre? Do you not believe in stoning adulterers to death? If so you’re not a true Christian.

      • Oh Goodie Im right has given us licence to indulge in whataboutism

        ‘if you find a Jew, you kill him’

        Same as instructions to crusaders in massacre and sack of Jerusalem, 13 July 1099.

        So, how many letters to the editor have you written about that?

      • Gee Zelda, i wish had as much money as ‘everyday New Zealanders’. If he truly spoke for everyday NZ he would have more than 8%.

  7. Given that Liz Truss managed to take the British economy in record time, perhaps we should be terrified.

  8. did either party really understand the other sides take on the treaty?…did they understand something as basic as the other parties language? NO, RIGHT lets start again from the ground up and try to forget the baggage

  9. ” David Seymour is New Zealand’s GREATEST Maori, the only person within the New Zealand Parliament who is willing to speak up for everyday New Zealanders ”

    Excuse the pun but I think you don’t realise its all just an act ! Speaking up is one thing but concern for the plight of ” everyday New Zealanders ” is not what him and his colleagues and corporate wealthy donors are all about.

    Van Velden has just removed the FPA which would have done more to protect and improve everyday New Zealanders pay and encouraged the protection under law that has been eroded by the harsh economic policies ACT and its wealthy membership support. Robbing and undermining working people to give more money to the rich and powerful is not in the interests of everyday working people.

    Go back and start again.

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