So it wasn’t a misfiring Palestinian missile that exploded the Gaza Hospital after all – why we are all on the brink

52
2505

Palestinians blamed an Israeli strike for the explosion at al-Ahli Arab Hospital, while the IDF said it was caused by a misfiring rocket fired by the armed group Palestinian Islamic Jihad. America also put the blame on Palestinian militants, while Arab states blamed Israel.

For opponents of Israel, the loss of life was another example of Israel killing civilians and lying about it. For supporters of Israel is was more proof of how anti-semitic the global media are to blame Israel.

Turns out both are probably wrong.

The ‘evidence’ provided by the IDF of audio between Hamas operatives is probably fake and visual analysis shows that the Palestinian Missile didn’t malfunction, it was shot down by Israel’s Iron Dome and landed on the hospital…

….it wasn’t an Israeli air strike and it wasn’t an errant missile. It was a Palestinian missile shot out of the air by the Israeli’s that landed on a hospital.

Both sides are lying because both are at fault

It highlights how civilians slaughtered during this conflict will become nothing more than bargaining chips for media outrage to step up the next cycle of violence.

TDB Recommends NewzEngine.com

We are at a terrifying precipice and the IDF haven’t even entered Gaza yet!

4000 Palestinians have been killed so far and almost half of that number are children!

Mike Allen at Axios highlights just how dangerous this perfect storm of escalation has become…

1. Israel’s response to the Hamas terrorist attack, and growing fear of a spreading war that reaches to Iran and beyond. Officials point to the protests, threats and deadly, anti-American warnings of Arab nations after they thought — incorrectly — Israel struck a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds. This is a preview of what they fully expect will be a worldwide response to the expected Israeli invasion of Gaza.

2. Vladimir Putin meeting in China this week with Xi Jinping to further strengthen their anti-America alliance. In a new Foreign Affairs article that top officials are sharing, Gates argues that both leaders believe America and other big democracies “are past their prime and have entered an irreversible decline.” Putin and Xi sniff weakness and are activating on many fronts, top administration officials tell us.

    • This Reuters headline says it all: “Russia says it is coordinating Middle East policy with China.”

3. A malicious Iran. It’s unclear how involved Iran was in orchestrating or assisting the Hamas terrorist attack — but officials seem certain there are ties. More worrisome: U.S. officials fear Hezbollah — a much bigger terrorist group than Hamas, funded by Iran — will strike the moment Israel gets stuck in Gaza.

    • Biden said last night in his Oval Office address: “Iran is supporting Russia in Ukraine, and it’s supporting Hamas and other terrorist groups in the region.”

4. Then there’s the unhinged leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Un, and his frequent testing of long-range, nuclear-capable missiles. As Gates points out, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea combined will have twice as many nuclear weapons as America in two years.

5. A new weapon is being deployed in all these conflicts: a massive spread of doctored or wholly fake videos to manipulate what people see and think in real time. The architects of these new technologies, in background conversations with us after demonstrating new capabilities soon to be released, say even the sharpest eyes looking for fake videos will have an impossible time detecting what’s real. (We’ll have a column coming soon to Go Deeper on this topic).

    • Fake video, on top of bots (fake people) and fake written content, is being used aggressively by all anti-American actors, intelligence officials say. Some experts estimate that more than 90% of content on the internet will soon be fake or manipulated.

…look at how something we had open source information of to determine the Hospital explosion, imagine faked images used to trigger responses that can’t be countered?

There are so many dangerous elements in play here that an immediate cease fire is the only logical conclusion if we don’t want to risk going over a point of no return.

We are all on the brink.

 

Increasingly having independent opinion in a mainstream media environment which mostly echo one another has become more important than ever, so if you value having an independent voice – please donate here.

If you can’t contribute but want to help, please always feel free to share our blogs on social media

52 COMMENTS

  1. No Hamas rocket warhead has the explosive power to destroy a hospital and massacre 500+ patients, medical staff and refugees in one hit. It was an Israeli JDAM guided bomb supplied by the U$. Israel has a history of bombing hospitals. schools and refugee camps. Also it was a thermobaric blast creating a hell of fire and blast incinerating its victims.
    ” The Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) is a guidance kit that converts unguided bombs, or “dumb bombs”, into all-weather precision-guided munitions. JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver, giving them a published range of up to 15 nautical miles (28 km). JDAM-equipped bombs range from 500 to 2,000 pounds (230 to 910 kg).[5] The JDAM’s guidance system was jointly developed by the United States Air Force and United States Navy, hence the “joint” in JDAM “

    • The hospital was not damaged! The missile landed in the hospital car park. There are almost certianly not 500 dead (or anywhere near that). The fog of war is next level in this conflict.

    • Yes, if you look at the video of the blast the missile looked and sounded supersonic at impact, the explosion was massive and the technology advanced. Seems if a Hamas rocket was shot down it wouldn’t have still been travelling at this speed let alone have this explosive power. The Americans should release satellite imagery of the area (launches and tracking) if they have it.

  2. This is happening because Christians believe zionists need to inhabit Mecca in order for The Rapture to happen. That’s why the US State & US fundamental Christians fund Israel.

    Without deep funding Israel wouldn’t be able to afford to imprison, terrorise, and slaughter millions of it’s own citizens.

    Palestinians are goats in some old testament fantasy.

    Religion has so much to answer for.

  3. The leaflets dropped by Israel on Gaza at the start of Israel’s bombing campaign warned the people of Gaza that “known shelters must be evacuated”. 

    In practice in line with this order – “known shelters”, schools, hospitals, churches, that have not been evacuated, are now regularly and frequently being struck with Israeli bombs and missiles.

    In the same leaflet drop 1.1 million Palestinians were ordered to evacuate Gaza city and its surrounds, and go to Southern Gaza. 1.1 million people were given 24 hours to obey this order.

    Drs and administrators of Gaza city central hospitals were sent the same impossible demand by telegram and facebook personally addressed to them that they must obey the order to evacuate their hospitals.

    All supplies of food, water, electricity and medicine and sewerage services are cut off. Gaza City is a city of death.

    A genocide is being conducted right before our eyes and the eyes of the world and our incumbent, and government elect, haven’t condemned it. Not a single lawmaker on both sides of the house have lifted a finger to apply every legal channel open to them to try and stop this genocide.

    In international law, no atrocity, not even another genocide, justifies committing genocide.

    We once said “Never Again”.

    We even say; “We are committed to an International rules base order.”

    So why are our law makers from both sides of the house not immediately petitioning the United Nations International Court of Justice to order the state of Israel to abide by the 1948 international convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide?
    We have the means. Our nation’s top international lawyers are in the Hague right now after recently giving testimony on this country’s behalf to the ICJ on the alleged genocide committed by Ukraine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiYHcqz0Mxs&t=7s 

    • “Never again” also means a collective responsibility to hold Israel to account for crimes against humanity because after all allowing atrocity’s to go unchallenged only leads to further antisemitism and attacks against Jews.

      Gaby and his/her ilk will engage in “Whataboutism” as a form of gaslighting.
      What about Iran, Yemen or Iraq, why always the Jews? which they then equate to antisemitism never mentioning Palestinians are semetic.
      A land for a people, for people without a land is pure hasbara. Please explain how there were 1.2 million Palestinians before the partition and Jewish people were the minority. Additionally explain how a so called “empty land” led to the destruction of over 531 Palestinian towns and villages, 70 massacres and the murder of 15,000 Palestinians during the Nakba. You can’t.

  4. “Some experts estimate that more than 90% of content on the internet will soon be fake or manipulated.”

    To reclaim the internet, so that real people can talk to each, it’s well past time that all reputable websites banned all anonymous commenters, especially trolls who can’t be confirmed as real people.
    This cowardly horde, not prepared to put their names and reputations behind the content they put on line, need to be told, to fuck right off, back to the dark corners of the conspiratorial web, where they belong.

    • Banning all anonymous commenters will create a point of difference between serious reputable websites and all the spurious conspiratorial websites.

      P.S. Another point of difference I notice; The spurious conspiracy websites, are very quick to block and ban serious named commenters who challenge their conspiracy narratives.

      • I’m probably one of the few prepared or brave enough to openly agree with you on that. I seldom give weight on any opinion in an anonymous comment or essay. If someone isn’t able to stand behind and own their opinions then the opinion is largely worthless. I generally treat them as material to either ridicule or deconstruct.

    • Yeah/Nah. Fuck that. I don’t want the hoi polloi or their Grand Masters knowing who and/or what and where I am and live. Anonymity is our last luxury in the digital age of ‘information’. I’ll stick to sniping anonymously from my dark and conspiratorial corner thanks all the same.

      • Agreed.
        I have heard it said that the only two ways that you can speak the truth publicly are anonymously or posthumously.
        Plenty of important writers have used pen names and pseudonyms to protect themselves and their families.
        Voltaire was actually François-Marie Arouet, The Federalist Papers were all written under the pseudonym Publius, even George Orwell wasn’t George Orwell, he was Eric Arthur Blair.
        Use a pseudonym and you have to play the ball, not the man.

    • It is nice to know who people really are, that way they can be properly targeted at work or at home. Jobs or social standing threatened. It keeps dissidents afraid and that’s just the way we like it.

      • No it’s not well said at all Bob. Hospital incident aside, how many other Palestinians have died through the IDF air strikes? Shit loads of them.Thats no mistake or misfire, that’s undisputed and deliberate. This hospital incident is a distraction from what a complete bunch of arseholes the IDF are being.

      • I’m probably going to have to repeat this on internet comment sections until the day I die, but the truth of a statement is determined by its relationship to reality NOT by which camp it came from. Find out the facts of the matter, not the political alignment of the speaker.

    • In a Channel 4 News report, The Headline story was the release of the two American hostages held by Hamas.,
      But beginning at @5:14 minutes was another report:
      Evidence gathered by independent human rights sources, discredits the Israeli claim that a stray Islamic Jihad Missile struck the Baptist Hospital.

      Doppler sound waves made by the approaching missile, similar to those made by an approaching or receding train whistle, and captured by the microphone attached to a security camera geo located 150m East of the Church, revealed that the missile that hit the Gaza Baptist church came from the direction East of the church. ie. from the direction of Israel.
      The scatter pattern around the impact crater also indicated that the missile strike came from the North East direction and not from the South West as Israel claimed.

      Examination of the alleged recording of Islamic Jihad and Hamas voices admitting to an errant Palestinian missile, revealed that this recording had been doctored and spliced together. Making it inadmissible as evidence of anything.

      @5:14 minutes

      ….tonight audio and photographic analysis shed new light on what happened…” Alec Thompson Channel 4 News

      https://www.channel4.com/news/hamas-says-it-has-released-two-american-hostages-being-held-in-gaza?fbclid=IwAR3FEuWlo90jR3aIDgYSijySR343UfwhKKd6UUTV94OH9HlIQkCZnr-0gHk

  5. “Gates argues that both leaders believe America and other big democracies “are past their prime and have entered an irreversible decline.”

    Bro has got a point.

    What I find weird is the USA seems to care more about her allies citizens than our own. Imagine being homeless in the USA and then hearing your country is sending billions of aid to other countries no questions asked

  6. Imagine if world history accepted that the WW2 Jews fighting out of the ghettos were terrorists, that the German Nazi armies had a right to defend themselves against unarmed Jewish people, that every Jewish person was a combatant because some of the population fought back and that extermination of all Jews was now justified because they were human shields or collateral of war, and the kids, elderly, infirm and people not of a particular race or religion were just animals to be put down. Imagine if this was the rewritten history.

  7. Israel is dropping a thousand bombs a day so there must be thousands of these horrific stories waiting to be told. These are the chosen people, chosen to murder kids sleeping in a shelter. You big fucking men.

  8. Two thousand years ago a wise man gave a sermon somewhere in Palestine. He advised turning the other cheek, and to love one’s enemies, in contrast to taking an eye for an eye. He declared blessed the meek and peace makers.

    When we hear frenzied calls for vengeance, blood, bombs it might be hove us to reflect upon the words of a man who Western values are largely derived from.

    • I’m not religious but I do remember from those child hood days that the person you refer to basically just seemed to say: “be excellent to one another”

      So yes, once someone kills or hurts another person in the name of the god, I suspect that person may have got the wrong message.

  9. Doppler sound waves made by the approaching missile, similar to those made by an approaching or receding train whistle, and captured by the microphone attached to a security camera geo located 150m East of the Church, revealed that the missile that hit the Gaza Baptist church came from the direction East of the church. ie. from the direction of Israel.
    The scatter pattern around the impact crater also indicated that the missile strike came from the North East direction and not from the South West as Israel claimed. Whether this was the flight of an Islamic Jihad missile that had been turned back toward Gaza after being struck by an Israeli Iron Dome anti-missile, missile, rather than being destroyed in flight, seems unlikely. More likely it was a stray Iron Dome missile launched from Israel that had missed its aerial target. This scenario fits with the relatively small size of the impact crater.

    Examination of the alleged recording of Islamic Jihad and Hamas voices admitting to an errant Palestinian missile, revealed that this recording had been doctored and spliced together. Making it inadmissible as evidence of anything.

    @5:14 minutes

    ….tonight audio and photographic analysis shed new light on what happened… Alec Thompson Channel 4 News

    https://www.channel4.com/news/hamas-says-it-has-released-two-american-hostages-being-held-in-gaza?fbclid=IwAR3FEuWlo90jR3aIDgYSijySR343UfwhKKd6UUTV94OH9HlIQkCZnr-0gHk

  10. Unfortunatley neither the IDF or Hamas subscribe the New Testament. Same with all The Commanders in Chief and Putin.

  11. And yet DD in Canada has conducted a complete analysis and says it wasnt Israel. Also bomb didnt hit the hospital, just the carpark so hard to understand where the 500 dead came from.

  12. I get the feeling that this episode of the Arab Israeli conflict is going to end with a resolution of one kind or another. Either it will bring about a massive near global conflict where US blames Iran and launches air strikes against it and the US navy is sunk by Iranian missiles starting a general WW# scenario . Or the powers that be finally recognise that unless they back down and start meaningful discussions that this will happen and act to avoid it. Which will necessarily require resolving the Palestinian issue once and for all.
    I don’t see how this can happen without recognising that Israel is an artificial state created out of sympathy for the treatment of the jews by Germany during WW2 and the jewish population is largely well healed immigrants / colonists from Europe and America.
    They will need to withdraw at least to the boundaries of Israel prior to ’67 or they will not finish up with any state at all.
    D J S

  13. Looking forward to reading your upcoming piece on the new weapons in the info-war Martyn. Also looking forward to seeing how many of your sources are anonymous, deep background not for attribution types. The problem is with Misinformation Project debunkers is that the magician will never tell you how the trick is done, and any effective counter-disinformation techniques work just as well on the horse-feathers that the West is trying to sell as the bull-puckky the East is trying to peddle.
    “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!” shouts the massive flaming floating head of The Wizard of Oz.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
    It’s a good scene. Later the unmasked wizard sys that he’s actually a very good man, just a very bad wizard. That’s more misinformation. He’s actually a pretty damned good wizard with a lot of cool magic tricks, he’s just bad at government, especially foreign policy. He should have been able to make a deal with the Wicked Witch of the West for example. But you can only run an organization on flim-flam for so long before the bill finally becomes due.

  14. The clearest statement yet from the IDF that they are committing genocide in Gaza.
    While driving in my car listening to BBC News on the radio. The BBC reported that a new IDF leaflet drop on North Gaza reads: anyone still remaining in North Gaza is “an accomplice of a terrorist organisation”

    This can only mean one thing;

    Nurses, Drs, patients, babies in incubators, children – all those still remaining in North Gaza are now a declared target of IDF death squads and missile strikes.

    I could barely believe what I was hearing.

    When I got home, for confirmation, I googled what I had heard on my car radio.

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/civilians-who-dont-leave-northern-gaza-to-be-considered-associate-of-terrorists-israel/3028638

    Why are our lawmakers silent?

    A genocide is being committed and our collective silence makes us all complicit.

    • Pat we live in a very sick world. It’s all about the dollars, and wars make plenty of dollars. Humans whether young or old don’t matter. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE DOLLARS. When I look at my mokopuna I think how unsafe they are. We’ve created a very sick world. WHAT THE HELL CAN WE DO TO CHANGE IT.

  15. Oddly enough, whenever Putin blames Ukrainians for blowing up civilian buildings, or spreads disinformation about their plans to do so, I do not believe him. So it is with Israeli stories about Palestinian facilities.

    As it was with the British burning of Benin, the superior military force cannot avoid all responsibility.

  16. Blood libel gaby says?? ,,,, now that would be llike Israel bombing a hospital and then telling the lie that Hamas was using it as a military base or depot ,,, which is EXACTLY like a Israeli military official initially did after the bombing ,,, the recorded evidence of this Israel lie/blood libel shown here,,,, Who’s behind Gaza hospital massacre? https://youtu.be/iXx5_hlx9kM?t=566 ,,

    ,, the video also shows false,doctorred, and retracted videos put out by Israel,,,,, as the story they chose to settle on was that ‘the Palastinians done it to themselves ‘,,, which is the same sort of tricks/war propaganda Israel used when they shot in the head and murdered Palestinian American Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh https://theintercept.com/2022/09/20/shireen-abu-akleh-killing-israel/

    Israel uses lies to Justify it’s killing/murdering pf Palastine civilians ,,,, which must be the very definition of ‘Blood Libel” …. Lies to spill blood.

    More Israel lies to spill blood here How the Media & Politicians Gave Israel the Greenlight to Turn Gaza into a Graveyard https://www.bitchute.com/video/Sgr346nxGl46/ ,,, and the inhuman results are also shown.

    gaby and others in the ‘start war with Iran and the Arabs club’ ,,,, are certainly nothing if not Blood-Thirsty ,

Comments are closed.