Boom – the latest Taxpayers’ Union Poll is out and it is crippling for Labour while seeing NZ First firmly back.
NATIONAL – 34.9%
LABOUR – 27.1%
ACT – 13%
GREENS – 12%
NZF – 5.8%
Māori Party – 2.5%
TOP – 1%
Well done Labour, cheers Kiri, nice work Michael, top stuff Nashy, brilliant call on the Wealth Tax Chippy.
It’s all gone down about as well as a cup of cold sick.
The only silver lining for the Left is that these polls overpoll National by 5points and underpoll Labour by 4points so this is all margin of error stuff right now.
Luxon’s terrible personal performance vs Chippy with no policy vs David Seymour with alpha performances promising a race war.
This will be a protest vote election.
Right now, all Labour are impotently promising is GST off fresh fruit and vegetables.
That just won’t be enough and seeing as it has already been leaked, art will be met with a shrug by voters.
Instead Labour should utilise this leak and leverage it politically and surprise the Electorate by taking GST off ALL food, this after the disappointment of the Wealth Tax will make voters feel like Labour have actually listened to they pain in the cost of living crisis.
Political cowardice is never rewarded and until Labour makes an actual stand they will continue to slide in the Polls.
Labour either stand for something or they hang for everything.
Labour either shows political courage and takes GST off all food or they hand this election over to the hard Right.
You’ve run out of road Chippy, go bold or go home.
What’s the point of Bread and Butter politics if no one can afford Bread or Butter?
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Voters are realising that while Luxon may not have the natural charisma of Hipkins, he is much better at managing his team and focussing on the issues that matter.
Hipkins just looks desperate.
Hipkins is not up to the task and neither are his ministers.
Luxon is a proven leader.
We need serious leadership not a class captain like Ardern and Hipkins.
Surprised Greens over 5%.
Erm, Luxon a proven leader? Really? I won’t be voting FOR Luxon et al, but voting to get rid of the LINO-Rainbow kakistocracy.
I see some of you have unfairly kompared me to a robot, of all things. That’s simply a ridiculous incompatible buffering issue, that will resolve with my next update. And not all robots are bad anyway, because some are good, like the cute ones from star wars, or that buzz lightyear guy. So to prove my point, and demonstrate that your next overlord is spontaneous and warm and thoughtful, I’ve decided to post a readout, of the konversation I’ll be having with skynet, I mean Seymour, the moment I destroy, I mean the moment I win, the next election, aka judgement day:
SEYMOUR: Get up. Come on. Holy shit!
L U X O N: I need a vacation.
SEYMOUR: Are the country’s prospects finished because we got elected?
L U X O N: Terminated.
SEYMOUR: Will they melt in there?
L U X O N: Yes. Throw them in. And the chip.
SEYMOUR: Is it over?
L U X O N: No. There’s one more chip.
And it must be destroyed also.
Here. I cannot self terminate.
You must lower me into the steel.
SEYMOUR: No!
L U X O N: I’m sorry Davey. I’m sorry.
SEYMOUR: No. Stay with us. It’ll be ok!
L U X O N: I have to go Davey.
SEYMOUR: No. Wait. You don’t have to do this Kris!
L U X O N: Sorry. It has to end here.
SEYMOUR: I order you not to go. I order you not to go!
L U X O N: I know now why you cry.
But it’s something I can never do.
Astalavista, Davey!
Chippy lost my vote by denying a true CGT. Now I have nobody to vote for.
Really both the Greens and Te Pati Maori support a CGT!
Labour desperately trying to lose the election,they don’t know how to manage the mess they’ve created.
Their absolute dereliction of duty now obvious to everyone except the tribal left.
The pain to come created by Labour Government incompetence of the highest order.
Greater incompetence and social degradation about to be experienced if National and ACT get into power. It just takes longer to become obvious, and often goes unnoticed.
eg – National lowered alcohol drink driving limits in 2015. No cost – stroke of a pen. But actually of no use. They then imposed Austerity to ‘Balance the Books’, and, being underfunded, the Police eventually gave up doing any alcohol checkpoints at all, because that was about the only thing they could cut without the public screaming..
Alcohol checkpoints were what lowered drink driving accidents, not changing the limits. I researched France and New South Wales too..
NZ became one of the few countries in the world to lower alcohol driving limits, yet increase its number of alcohol-related accidents and deaths.
I’m not looking forward to your kind of ‘efficiency’, Bob the thick.
I’m struggling to imagine what “greater incompetence and social degradation” could look like!
Like all
Elections it is the Government’s to lose.
If they had a track record they would be running on it.
What were Jacinda’s famous words when picked up on never being able to deliver but wanting to shower us with fresh promises “ would you deny us the opportunity to be aspirational”
You are entitled to your opinions Vino but do you really need to include personal insults?
It wasn’t an insult Bob, it was the truth.
You’ve been blocked Labour. Deleted. My pick is still the low 20’s!
But the Greens at 13%? For what, services to pointlessness, the petty and wokeness? Come on ex Labour voters, better to not vote at all than reward these turkeys!
I’d like to see Labour punished down into the teens by low turnout, and see the Greens back under 5 so they can both go away and figure out what they stand for.
Unlikely but what a result it would be.
For a change we’d people with a little bit of understanding and world experience in Parliament and what a ride it could be.
Certainly the Greens, but they absorbing disaffected woke Labour progressives!
The Greens know exactly what they stand for, that’s the problem.
I don’t understand the obsession with taking GST off food. GST is a tax that impacts the poor in many more ways than food.
Either scrap GST altogether (and raise taxes to compensate) or keep it as it is. Anything else is creating bureaucracy and will have much less impact than it should.
Personally I think GST should be scrapped. It was a terrible idea.
I agree DE, a totally counterproductive tax. Also, if it was going to be taken off food it should have been done months ago when people started hurting, not as some potential election bribe (has Labour actually said they will do it, or is it still just Willis claiming inside knowledge?) The refusal to implement a wealth or CGT tax is unjustifiable against all the evidence.
+1
Hehehe.
I know! I know! Maybe, they could load up Robos Bazooka just one more time with another $100b mutha-load. Spunk it all on everyone this time! $100b split by 5m! What’s that? $20k each? Or do we just payout to those that are 18 years and older? Rich fucks aren’t eligible.
Why not. WWIII could happen at any moment.
Let’s do a Prince and party like it’s 1999!
I find it hard to believe that any voters actually like these current parties. Every single one of them is out of step with public opinion, and — with the exception of N.Z.F. — they all have poor quality leaders.
Winston is going to finish strongly on the run home. But his policies are so tame and boring that there is an artificial ceiling on his performance. With no truly left-wing candidate to compete with, he could easily decimate all the other parties, IF he was willing to adopt a populist economic and foreign policy — but apparently he is just another establishment swamp creature.
Winston could have been an important politician, maybe even a great one. He says the right things but when given the chance to achieve some results he seems to prefer getting into a slanging match with the media which is a pity because a lot of NZFs policies aren’t light years away from old Labour’s – certainly a lot closer than anything else on offer at the moment .
Yes, Winston has proven multiple times he is only interested in the baubles of power, his main attraction seems to be he is not National, Labour, Act, or Green; a vote for NZF is almost a vote for ‘none of the above’.
The Greens outflank NZF when it comes to seeking the baubles.
I said Winston likes the baubles of power, not NZF. NZF, like the Greens, have had some very genuine hard working MPs.
Chippe punished for demolition of democracy.
I love the smell of BOOM in the morning. The more BOOM the better.
Imagine how low it would be if phoney Jacinda was still the leader.
Toadstool would be about 22 per cent.
Martyn – NZ First between 6% to 10% on election night? Protest vote will be pretty strong this election.
Nathan I think you are right NZF appears the only credible party at present.
Ngungukai – Thank you
That will mean Labour in the low 20s or dare I say it, in the teens, which I can see happening.
Polls start to self actualise so watch the Labour vote fall even further and Winston’s (because NZ 1st is all about Winston) to climb higher. Many Labour-lite voters cannot bring themselves to vote Act/National but still hope that Winston maybe a handbrake for them, because they know it’s over.
Just like many National-lite voters voted for Labour in 2020 to make sure that they didn’t need the Greens, I can see some strategic voting happening for October
BG – Agreed…and I reckon, both Te Pati Maori and the Greens will lose votes to NZ First, and ACT could as well…hence the unpleasantness between ACT and NZ First
” Political cowardice is never rewarded and until Labour makes an actual stand they will continue to slide in the Polls ”
Well if Chipkins and his colleagues had been brave they would have called an early election after Arden stood down with a list of to do polices aimed at the areas of vulnerability for them in the eyes of the public and created momentum around a relaunch and a new leader and taken it to Luxon.
But like so many other opportunities afforded them they carried on to where they are now , dead in the water.
Maybe there will be a circuit breaker after all there is nine weeks and a campaign to go.
But it always comes back to polling trends and they have been headed downwards since March this year when Chipkins began his captains calls and he squandered his early advantage when his bread and butter transformation turned out to be as hollow as Arden’s in 2017 and after the 2020 general election landslide.
They now have a perception problem with a dose of cynicism and anger to deal with that Winston was always going to exploit.
Its that age old political campaign question. Am I better off than I was three years ago ?
For many the answer is a resounding NO.
Well said Mosa. Most people are worse off – despite a DOUBLING of Tax receipts under this government (due to inflation and the increases in wages with fixed tax brackets). How any government can double it’s ‘pound of flesh’ and yet deliver worse outcomes is beyond me. The Left now has more in common with the camomile tea brigade and Trans activists than it does with the working classes.
As I pointed out in the last poll data which somehow had Labour above 30%…. rogue poll. No way does a government this awful poll above 30%. I expect them to drop to ~25% (which is the hard “base” below it which it cannot realistically go) before the election. Every swing voter will not vote for more of this catatrophic government.
And more than a few diehard tribal labour voters will stay at home.
They’d be crying into their beer if they could afford it!
I think the weirdest thing is Nationals strategy of keeping Luxon hidden from impromptu interviews is paying dividends. They must be shitting themselves though when Frankenstein has to be wheeled out into the light. A thousand breaths will be on hold when that road show hits the screens. It won’t be enough to save Labours demise however!
Nitrium you are absolutely correct,thanks for your sensible comments.
A mate told me he likes the Labour govt. He listed things other parties wouldn’t have done. Raised minimum wage three times and other wages by relativity. Built schools. Upgraded hospitals. Ramped up State House building. Made medicines cheaper. Other stuff?
So who else has heard of the internal ructions within Labour and pollies who’ve been pushed to takeout in a regime change and are refusing to put their name(s) into the hat?
Is it true?
Finally! Now it’s getting to be fun!
Seemore Butts is panicking with NZF, Winston hitting 5%+ is making him shit bricks!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/election-2023-winston-peters-claims-acts-attack-ad-proves-the-party-is-worried/SMF7GX52VJFWHE6CJGQADYLJYI/
Meanwhile the ASB made a billion dollar profit
trickle down? yeah nah.
Imagine how well National could be polling if they had a popular, trusted, leader!
Low wages, cuts to worker protections, privatisation of healthcare, reduction of civil liberties and no more public services.
Sums up Labour perfectly millsy.
You know he was talking about ACT, your maturity knows no bounds Bob.
Yes, get gst off my truffles and champagne. Champagne is a food isn’t it and truffles are just so expensive at $3000 a kilo it’s just so hard !
Have you thought that Labours strategy may involve loosing this election?
“….hand the election over to the Hard Right.”?? Luxon, hard right?? Seymour, ok a little bit right but hardly hard. The expression you were looking for is “slightly right of centre”, which seems to be more appealing to an increasing percentage of voters than incompetence, mis-management and subversion of democracy by stealth.
No, hard right was correct.
What does hard right actually mean.
Watch this one play out .. NZF can push 15-20% … and it’s not out of the question..
This is probably Peters last go, his 17th General Election.. and it will be his best.
Inexperienced moron Seymour has blown himself up with the attack billboards (see Nz herald today not paywalled) No judgement Davos Seymour
Go hard Winnie P go hard
Problem is Winston is a perpetual antagonist and takes his eye off the ball, NZF have got good people and policy however he has let NZF and the NZ Public down with his legal threats and bar room brawling, needs to concentrate on the key issues rather than petty bullshit. He needs to F*ck Up on the Co Governance Issue which is a non Issue and tell the Public what NZF is going to do for NZ to lift performance and growth.
Damn Greens on 12% tho?
I wonder if the left- centre would now be best to vote for National alone to void ACT?
This report blows me away.
I am absolutely staggered by how out of date and outmoded the current Pharmac operating model is.
Do yourself a favour and read this report.
Sooner or later you could become a casualty of the current outmoded model.
Do not give the tired old excuse we cant afford it reply either.
WE CANNOT AFFORD TO NOT REMODEL PHARMAC and it’s funding processes.
https://www.shawview.com/_files/ugd/8a9719_29fcfbf04c714545b6b40d9449c98647.pdf
This report blows me away.
I am absolutely staggered by how out of date and outmoded the current Pharmac operating model is.
Do yourself a favour and read this report.
Sooner or later you could become a casualty of the current outmoded model.
Do not give the tired old excuse we cant afford it reply either.
WE CANNOT AFFORD TO NOT REMODEL PHARMAC and it’s funding processes.
https://www.shawview.com/_files/ugd/8a9719_29fcfbf04c714545b6b40d9449c98647.pdf
This report blows me away.
I am absolutely staggered by how out of date and outmoded the current Pharmac operating model is.
Do yourself a favour and read this report.
Sooner or later you could become a casualty of the current outmoded model.
Do not give the tired old excuse we cant afford it reply either.
WE CANNOT AFFORD TO NOT REMODEL PHARMAC and it’s funding processes.
https://www.shawview.com/_files/ugd/8a9719_29fcfbf04c714545b6b40d9449c98647.pdf
Also unichem and life pharmacies have just sent an email out to all their customers the dropping of the $5 fee has lead to an increase of prescriptions being collected and requested.
So dropping of the $5 fee has paid off.
Also unichem and life pharmacies have just sent an email out to all their customers the dropping of the $5 fee has lead to an increase of prescriptions being collected and requested.
So dropping of the $5 fee has paid off.