Just as NZ barely recovers from the latest climate change storm, we are now predicted to be hit by an even bigger one next week.
This year, NZ has seen extreme catastrophic weather event after catastrophic weather event.
Christian Conspiracy Theorist Ian Wishart says it was the Tongan volcano eruption that pushed all this water vapour into the atmosphere and it is that not global warming that is causing these weather events, but that’s bullshit as the water vapour would have fallen within weeks after the eruption, not years later.
The danger of allowing people like Wishart to pollute the debate means we take our focus off climate change and the human pollution that creates it.
Climate change was something that we thought might impact us at the end of the century, the reality is that it is now here and the danger is that you get hit so hard and so often that there is no time between events to repair the damage of the last storm.
This is only going to get worse, not better and it demands a new capitalism that taxes the rich to ensure the build backs are engineered and resilient enough to resist these damages.
Climate Change is now a major political issue in NZ…
…this is now an age of consequences while ACT and National promise to strip away the little environmental action we have managed to muster.
A National/ACT Government will allow the Big Cow polluters to get away with doing even less while undermining our climate crisis response.
ACT just took on the climate denying Federated Farmers as a candidate!
We can not afford to allow climate denial parties anywhere near power.
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It’s astonishing that climate deniers have caught up to the level of science of volcanology.
They haven’t, you are giving them WAY too much credit
Ignorance to science is the trademark of the denier of science.
Try read “NIWA’s Historic Weather Events Website” by Jessica Rowley.
Then ask yourself this question? Why the subterfuge. These were big storms but nowhere near the largest and most intense ever observed.
If you read the release by NIWA, Jessica Rowley, you will realise that the Wishart report laid to bed the theory that the recent storms were the largest storms on record for NZ.
They were only the largest storms on the Database used by NIWA to reference the size and impact of storms.
Read NIWA’s Historic Weather Events Database by Jessica Rowley.
Johan Thiart -Thank you for stating this…
That’s the same data base infrastructure NZ uses for there models and every other model. Dam levels whatever. It’s clear to see that the act of submitting to science is not enough on its own.
There was a time when all civil and environmental engineers knew what an Act of God meant. Most people at that time “trusted” engineers and their judgment.
Now it means:
Shit, we did not expect that! Who is to blame??
Ego, bais. It’s all a grey zone. I just wish engineers can convert there status into relationship prowess.
NIWA reported that observed storms are of a magnitude not seen before in the history of NZ.
“The Christian conspiracy theorist” Ian Wishart then demonstrated that similar and larger storms have been experienced historically in NZ and he referenced reliable sources to support his research. This is called science.
Trying to discredit Ian Wishart’s report using the standard woke methodology does TDB no credit.
One can discredit Wishart’s theory only if one can demonstrate that his methodology was flawed and that the storms he referenced never occurred.
NIWA has thrown some mud at some of what Wishart said and that only demonstrates that NIWA is infested by some woke ideology. Probably in their comms team.
Wishhart is not a scientist, nor does he use the scientific method. His data, research and presentations rely on cherry-picking and manipulating data and conclusions of others, omission and misquotations. By these means he is a master at extracting conclusions that are often the very opposite of those made by the sources he is plundering.
Ian Wishart is a joke, don’t become one by association.
Ian Wishart investigated. He found reliable data that showed that larger more serious weather events have occurred in NZ. The data is not disputed by NIWA.
Read “NIWA’s Historic Weather Events website”.
that johan is like saying the holocaust happened in the past and was worse so pol pot wasn’t a thing
No it is not.
By your analogy I am saying
“That Pol Pot was not the worst in history because we saw what Hitler did, what Stalin did, what the Catholic Church caused….”
The future will see more climate and weather events and the damage will be relative to how well we manage the risk.
But, the weather events that we have experienced most recently are not unprecedented. Even if one only search the records since 1860. To argue otherwise is just lazy.
Sadly for the climate’s sake, Labour isn’t prepared to do much either – except have the public sector write reports and to subsidise industrial plants scrapping their coal boilers.
Labour knackered the ETS last December against the advice of the CCC, which will have huge impacts on the pace of decarbonising.
Labours plan is…
… er, nothing.
Not true. They are working on it.
Need more consultants & another report?
They are working on that too.
So it just feels so unkind when you say they are doing nothing.
I guess they just need more tax money, then we’ll see some results…
You guess wrong.
But if we really hammer the rich, surely that will be enough for some real action?
100% of nothing is………
it’s a well known fact that climate change is a woke scam, there are no floods in the north it’s all weta SFX and crisis actors…now excuse me I’ll just be getting back to waiting for the tooth fairy
Floods and storms are weather events.
These are affected by the butterfly effect, climate change not so much.
Waiting for the tooth fairy will get you nowhere fast.
Hmm, butterflies, hopefully not those white ones someone was complaining about elsewhere.
That same one can do the trick according to the meteorologist Ed Lorenz, the father of the chaos theory.
Land scarcity, councils allowing flood plains to be built on. Developers making money.
Now its all coming back to bite them.
except the compo payments will bite the taxpayer..betcha
We’re way bigger storms and climate events in NZ for years after Lake Taupo blew up. I have spoken to peeps who were around then and done the research.
That was not a weather event.
But yeah, it caused some serious droughts and famine and the climate was unsettled for time spans measured in geological time with nearly all organic life as destroyed. Fortunately there were no humans around to experience the climate around these parts at that time.
Floods and storms are weather events.
Weather events are influenced by the butterfly effect, climate change not so much.
You people do understand that whatever New Zealand does, or doesn’t do, will not affect the world’s weather one bit……New Zealand can not effect or change so called Climate Change …..Reading some articles here , one would think that New Zealand is the sole cause and saviour of the planet…As a nation we should not be spending one cent , or do anything towards climate change, as it’s a complete waste of time and money….
We must spend more than cents to protect ourselves from the risks associated with climate change. To do otherwise is stupid.
Other than that, you are correct.
Wishart is right to a point, but what we are seeing for a while makes me wonder if we have crossed over more than one tipping point.
God help us all.
Wishart is right to a point, but what we are seeing for a while makes me wonder if we have crossed over more than one tipping point.
God help us all.
You are right to be worried. Events have shown that we underestimated the risks associated with climate change.
Using the Pirani gauge one finds that increased CO2 affects heat transfer in a controlled experiment. So anthropogenic global warming is a thing. But the radiation component is less than 1% compared to the 95% used in climate models. Read Tom Shula.
In my lifetime CO2 has increased steadily and consistently but the average temperature on earth has moved up and down. So CO2 is not the driver of climate change, it does affect climate change. How much? There are many scientific theories doing the rounds on this.
Good luck with your denial John. It won’t save you.
No it is not.
By your analogy I am saying
“That Pol Pot was not the worst in history because we saw what Hitler did, what Stalin did, what the Catholic Church caused….”
The future will see more climate and weather events and the damage will be relative to how well we manage the risk.
But, the weather events that we have experienced most recently are not unprecedented. Even if one only search the records since 1860. To argue otherwise is just lazy.
Asking God for help is a better approach than cutting CO2 emissions in the believe that we can mitigate the risks associated with climate change.