Cough.
Sooooooooo, after another bitter miscarriage of justice with Peter Ellis – are we going to talk about corrupt Police Interrogation techniques or not?
How many times do we get told by the cops after a deplorable interview process that borders on bullying a confession out of desperate and simple people, that Police promise to change procedure?
We had it after Police planted evidence in the Arthur Allan Thomas case, we had it after Teina Pora who was interviewed for 5 days in a row, we had it with taking photos illegally from Māori teenagers on the street, we had it with the appalling case of Alan Hall and this year we had a Detective Superintendent who was the architect of a controversial new police interrogation program called the Complex Investigation Phased Engagement Model, caught out lying about his level of involvement in detectives using his model for a case that was eventually kicked out of court because it was manipulating people into making confessions!
Using false memory evidence from children in the Christchurch Creche satanic case with the Peter Ellis case is just the latest evidence of police interrogation techniques that are imprisoning innocent people!
We have a Police interview process that generates false and illegal confessions! I
f all we are trying to do is set people up and convict them of crimes we force them to confess to, that’s not a fucking legal process, that’s a gulag!
How have the NZ Police managed to get away with this with so little media attention?
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Everything failed here.
The mad woman with revived memory of sexual assaults roaming the community for rapists. The Dept of Social Welfare for buying into her madness and launching that massive investigation, the Smart report from Christchurch City Council that pinned this on Ellis and others and off the back of these so called experts evidence, the police, who fell for it hook line and sinker. And the parents who panicked and joined in the witch hunt,
Then the trial that denied Ellis’s lawyers the ability to put the more insane accusations to the jury to show how insane the whole thing was, because the Judge deemed this highly relevant material, irrelevant, to the appeals process that appeared so up its own arse in its own judicial self importance that missed the bloody obvious.
And with the extreme pressure from feminist groups of this me too era for male scalps, it could easily happen again!
Very hard to have faith in our justice system!
not to mention the 4 female workers at the creche, who if the allegations were true would have known something given a free pass….probably because their testimony would have exonerated him.
i understand your intent in writing that but, although the charges against them were dropped, it was far from being a “free pass’.
It ruined some their lives and arguably contributed to the death of one of Ellis’s co-workers. Additionally, in some cases the financial burdens of legal costs and aid etc accrued lasted for decades.
yup richard but they didn’t die in the pokie did they?
the reason for the charges being dropped is the interesting thing.
c’mon cops/judiciary let’s the paperwork on that decision.
“Yup, richard but they didn’t die in the pokie did they?”
No, and neither did Peter.
The point is that the term “free pass” might serve to trivialise the harm they consequently suffered.
Your point that dropping the charges served the system as much as, or more so, than it did the women is probably correct.
What disgusts me is the Supreme Court’s “no one is to blame” flannelling. Their were plenty to blame and heading the lists are the Williamson J; Crown Prosecutor Brent Stanaway; the Judges on the benches of two Appeal Courts; Tom Eichelbaum; Phil Goff; N Smith; L Dalziel; Det. Colin Eade; Police officers Ell, Pearce, and others; Rosemary Smart; K Zelas; Sally Ruth. Many more. They don’t get a free pass.
(facepalm) “there were” Para 4, 2nd sentence.
“process that appeared so up its own arse in its own judicial self importance that missed the bloody obvious”
accurate description of thge judicial system to this day!
So lacking in awareness that no critique of the police investigation has been made by the judicary!.
their destructive arrogance rages on as a blight on our society forever!
“process that appeared so up its own arse in its own judicial self importance that missed the bloody obvious”
accurate description of thge judicial system to this day!
So lacking in awareness that no critique of the police investigation has been made by the judicary!.
their destructive arrogance rages on as a blight on our society forever!
Maybe one day the Police will confess to the debacle that was the case against David Bain, or the systemic failure that gave Tarrant a firearms licence, or admit to the officer involved shooting at the Christchurch Hospital Emergency Department on March 15th, or all the other everyday acts that get swept under the carpet? Unlikely though, you’d need some hard interrogation techniques for even a chance at that.
You can David Lyttle to the list of those ‘impacted’ by the cops dodgy, desperate interview techniques.
ACC paid large amounts of money, both direct and indirectly, to the so called “Victims” of Ellis…if Ellis is found to be innocent, then the ACC could press charges against the parents for fraud.
Disgusting episode. Feel deeply for Peter Ellis nd the four women. Scpe-got witch-hunt hysteria capturing the social tensions of the time. That the parents re still convinced is pure ‘The Crucible’.
Humans will create what isn’t there for their needs. That is the whole story of the Land Wars — the need of colonists for land.
Why we need leding rational, people’s govt bove everything. Why Lbour re wrong people. They ‘respond’ nd like d’ freemrket.
Proof reading needed before posting.
My friend, just like in utube comments, there ‘re several reasons for bd spelling ‘nd grammar. If you did cryptic crosswords or mystery novels you could work out the problem. Regard it ‘s challenge. Not much of one.
“…there ‘re several reasons for bd spelling ‘nd grammar.”
What are yours?