I’m a Socialist Communist lefty post marxist anarchist with radical environmental tendencies.
I’ve never felt any love to towards the Chinese, Putin OR the American Military Industrial Complex.
Putin is a KGB thug who probably bombed his own people in Moscow to start a barbaric war with Chechnya. He is homophobic beyond belief and he started a war in the Ukraine, so yeah – I hate the American Military Industrial Complex, but let’s not pretend Putin is an antidote to their corruption!
Sure, China has lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty and that feat of Government should be celebrated and championed, but let’s not forget that beyond that incredible result you have a paranoid, aggressively authoritarian regime with mass surveillance powers that sells body organs, commits genocides and has devastated Tibet, Hong Kong and Xinjiang.
The bewildering amount of apologists for China in NZ is extraordinary, and it really shouldn’t be.
China is not our friend and they are not a friend to their own people…
U.N. says China may have committed crimes against humanity in Xinjiang
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- U.N. human rights office releases long-awaited report
- Says ‘serious human rights violations have been committed’
- China calls report ‘completely illegal and void’
- Report comes minutes before rights chief Bachelet’s term ends
…I like that it’s released minutes before the outgoing U.N. human rights chief resigned.
That’s how scared the UN is of China.
We can not pretend that our trade with China is sustainable if the are committing crimes against humanity!
Government doesn’t know if most of New Zealand’s imported solar panels made through slave labour
The Government doesn’t know if the majority of solar panels being imported into New Zealand have been made through forced labour in China.
Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta was told in May last year that officials didn’t know if technology coming onto our shores from China was produced in Xinjiang.
That’s the north-western Chinese province where human rights activists say more than 1 million Uyghurs are subject to human rights violations, including forced labour. A landmark report last year found nearly half of the global supply of a key component of solar panels is produced in Xinjiang, including through forced labour.
America’s private prison complex and its role in using prison labour is problematic enough, China is taking it to another level.
We need to urgently decouple economically from China.
We need to stop thinking of ourselves as economically global and think hyper regional.
We can’t pretend to be an ethical people if we are prepared to trade milk powder for our honour.
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So Jacinda is going to reject hear invitation to China?
So Whatabout OT and The Childrens Commissioner and the Tourtured people in State Care?? Fuck the wegees!
NZ should clean up our own back yard first. And why and how did the Uyghurs end up in a communist country.
China thinks it can dictate every nuance of its citizens’ lives. I grow tired of governments trying to do that. Meddlers, nothing but endless meddlers trying to control things. We need law and order, of course, but at some point you are simply meddling for the sake of power.
Let’s cut off our nose.
Sam you are describing Jacinda and her Ministers.
That’s just power lying to you.
Governments everywhere meddle, including our own. Currently you are being meddled to feel ashamed if you don’t complete any journey under 5 kms by either foot or bike….
They ended up in a communist country when the part of China they had traditionally inhabited became communist as part of the whole of China….
they didn’t, it isn’t
The history of Xinjiang is long and complicated, but in a nutshell- China invaded and annexed it. Kind of like what it wants to do with it’s neighbors and islands of the Pacific.
When Emperor Xi mentioned the peaceful rise if China, he really meant, China will rise and have a piece of that country, and that country, that country over there…
Oh Martin Bradbury that same ole troupe about China harvesting organs from Uyghur that amounts to genocide is a massive accusation, and needs to be scrutinized. Who are these experts that have made these accusations?? And to trust a UN report on any country let alone China needs examining as well! And to put things into perspective from my understanding the UN hasn’t issued sanctions on ‘Apartheid Israel’ for it’s inhumane treatment of the Palestinians reeks of hypocrisy don’t yah think Martin?
I’m wondering if they relied on a certain right-wing individual German researcher Adrian Zen’s who is affiliated with the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and neoconservative Jamestown Foundation in Washington, DC? I realise that Reuters said U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet visited China once in May but it looks like the bulk of the allegations comes from Adrian Zenz claims.
Articles by the Associated Press, CNN, and BBC also relied on Adrian Zenz article to claim that plunging Uyghur birth rates and the application of birth control measures in Uyghur counties of the Xinjiang region were proof of a policy of “demographic genocide.”
Just days after the publication of Zenz paper, Pompeo issued a statement denouncing China’s alleged policy of “forced sterilization, forced abortion, and coercive family planning,” personally crediting “Adrian Zenz’s shocking revelations.”
Biden backed the genocide charge August 2020 when it first appeared in a flurry of media reports. His campaign spokesman told Politico, “The unspeakable oppression that Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities have suffered at the hands of China’s authoritarian government is genocide and Joe Biden stands against it in the strongest terms.” Blinken, for his part, declared at his first press conference as secretary of state that he agreed genocide has been committed against the Uyghurs.
While Zenz’s employers describe him as “one of the world’s leading scholars on People’s Republic of China government policies towards the country’s western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang,” he is, in fact, a far-right Christian fundamentalist who has said he is “led by God” against China’s government, deplores homosexuality and gender equality, and has taught exclusively in evangelical theological institutions.
Lyle Goldstein, a China specialist and research professor in the Strategic and Operational Research Department of the Naval War College, told independent reporters that Zenz’s labeling of the Chinese approach to the Uyghurs as “demographic genocide” is “ridiculous to the point of being insulting to those who lost relatives in the Holocaust.”
Goldstein said the Chinese approach to Xinjiang “is a more repressive posture than we would like, but it sure isn’t genocide.” Moreover, a careful review of Zenz’s research shows that his assertion of genocide is contradicted by flagrant data abuse, fraudulent claims, cherry-picking of source material, and propagandistic misrepresentations.
What isn’t mentioned is the Uyghurs attacking Hans Chinese with terrorism in Xinjiang . The Uyghurs of Xinjiang also have been active participant in terrorizing the citizens of Syria affiliating with ISIS and Al Qaeda to overthrow an elected govt of Syria and their president Basha Al Asaad whom funny enough the US and its allies have also been trying too topple Assad since 2011!!
Do the math’s Martyn this is BS imo and falls in line with the Rand report on China and Russia to stifle their Multipolar push for a more equitable outcome in world affairs and the USA doesn’t like that!!
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html
https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA290-3.html
https://apnews.com/article/syria-ap-top-news-riots-international-news-china-79d6a427b26f4eeab226571956dd256e
China crimes against humanity… China apologists don’t care
about the truth? The whole truth and nothing but the truth????
ropey opinion based ‘evidence’ but china knockers don’t care
China has had a system of reeducation camps for 70 years that is not new. What is new is Afghanistan bordering Xianjiang being run alternately by American terrorists and Taliban terrorists exporting islamic fundamentalist destabalisation. Just saying. Xianjiang is under surveilance communism only a bit more oppressive than the surveillace capitalism here. Witness the increase in surveillance here after terrorist incidents. China has Gulags and God knows you wouldnt want to be in one but as far as we know they are not death camps so is it really genocide? The reports are the reeducated get released after 2 or 3 years and then probably live a lie.
discuss?
Yeah, a UN inspired Pacific Leaders Forum under written by Water Resources, Food and Shelter. The South Pacific is one of the most exposed to Climate Change.
We need a common language, common currency, and common modes of transport buttressed by 3% military spending.
What happens to all those resources once the islands are overtaken by the waves. Iceland is reporting a glacier dump that will raise sea levels by a foot.
If that’s not enough cope-ium then consider what the government response will be when the hords of climate refugees start showing up along spaghetti junction just to seek otherly modern living environment.
Fucken do something for once in your lives woman.
Bear grills played out the battle of the sexes putting a bunch of woman and a bunch of men on an island and the woman totally packed it in in 24hrs. They couldn’t filter water, start a fire or kill for food. The dudes had all that in the first hour.
Still not unstanding the logic? Womam male about 80% of the consumer debt and men hold about 80% of the consumer debt. It is in no one’s best interest but the 1 percenters to destroy and atomise the atomic family y’know this woke cancel culture is all pushed by social media oligarchs.
China is still competing for our resources and they ain’t playing.
Men dominate major decisions in China. In the western world woman can wear pink hear, tits out, hair growing out and feminists call that liberation.
Cope-ium is one hell of a drug.
And the prize for most offensive Right wing apologist for Chinese abuse of the Uyghurs goes to:
“Most poignant for me is that it has recognised that some of the activities the Chinese government have been about preventing terrorist activity in Xinjiang,
The intentions of that are not significantly different to those of our own New Zealand legislation.” National’s foreign affairs spokesperson Gerry Brownlee
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/on-the-wrong-side-of-history-brownlee-labelled-naive-over-comments-downplaying-un-report-on-chinese-human-rights-abuses/ar-AA11nF3n?
P.S. That our anti terrorist law is not significantly different to China’s is a bit of a worry. The UN report critical of China’s anti-terrorism law – says it’s “vague and broad” and open to interpretation by officials.
I’m in agreeance, young lad — nine years younger than me at fifty-six. China has no integrity — no one believes a thing they say. But they’ll now dial it back in Xinjiang.
A country that is untruthful to the depth of its knees has no future. At the hips they could go on.