Unnecessary Delay Means Pay Gaps Will Only Linger – MindTheGap NZ

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The Government must move faster to close gender and ethnic pay gaps if it wants to help people who are struggling with low wages due to discrimination, says MindTheGap.

Today in Parliament, the Government published its response to the Education and Workforce Select Committee inquiry into pay transparency. The inquiry recommended a mandatory and comprehensive pay transparency regime rather than voluntary compliance.

The Government’s response committed to a work programme around pay transparency, but provided no concrete timelines, budgets or resourcing to see this work happen at pace.

MindTheGap founders Jo Cribb and Dellwyn Stuart say while they welcome the Government’s positive response, it’s time to take action now to ensure all New Zealand employees are paid fairly.

“While it’s positive to see the Government accept this is an issue that needs to be resolved, we worry the lack of timelines and concrete commitments suggests this issue will just drag on and on.

“There’s no need for delay – we’ve had a full Select Committee inquiry that has heard from the best experts in business and civil society on this issue and we have overseas examples to draw on. The Select Committee made concrete recommendations that could be acted upon swiftly.

“Right now, Māori, Pasifika, women and ethnic communities are suffering discrimination which is driving lower wages,” says Dellwyn Stuart.

“We know that legislative changes to make pay gap reporting compulsory could increase some incomes by up to $35 per week, additional pay that is sorely needed this winter.

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“The Government’s promises will not pay the power bill over winter, words will not pay the grocery bill”.

“Our message to the Government is simple: you’ve acknowledged there’s a problem, you know what needs to be done to fix it. It’s time to act,” says co-founder Jo Cribb.

Mind the Gap is calling for the Government to work with businesses to agree on a standardised approach to reporting and introduce pay gap reporting legislation with urgency. Mandatory reporting is already in place for the New Zealand public service.

The national pay gap is 9.1% but it is a lot higher in many companies. On average it means for every dollar a Pākehā man earns, a Pākehā woman earns $0.89, a Māori woman $0.81 and a Pasifika woman $0.75.

“New Zealand’s pay gap has remained stuck for well over ten years, while many other countries have taken action to address theirs. In all good conscience is the Government happy that year after year Pasifika women are earning 27% less than Pakeha men?”

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  1. Can you also include socio-economic background, age, education level and employment sector and years of work experience to give a more rounded picture of what is going on?

    For example on average Maori are significantly younger than Pakeha which effects time-served and therefore average wage without any discrimination involved. Far more importantly, a higher proportion of Maori and Pacifica are working class and socio-economic background plus education level have the overwhelming effect on social mobility, status and wages.

    If you want to close (most of) the racial wage gap, improve education and training opportunities for working class kids. If you want to close (most of) the gender/sex wage gap, this is overwhelmingly the difference between mothers and fathers and the tendency (at a population level) for women to be interested in people and men to be interested in things. So encourage men to raise the kids and pay care workers similar salaries to technicians and engineers.

    The concern is that the MtG approach appears to tinkering around the edges at best and at worse, (since minorities are over-represented in blue collar jobs), will simply incentivise equity (not equality) based hiring into professional white collar jobs. This will disproportionately direct resources and opportunities to middle class women and minorities who would have been fine anyway. At the same time it will do little or nothing for working class women, Maori and Pacifica while working class Pakeha remain invisible.

    If an identity-ONLY metric is the lens of analysis this mis-diagnoses the problem. In 5 or 10 years time the same wage gaps will exist, not (predominantly) because of discrimination, but due to misdirection of resources and a failure to facilitate social mobility compounded by the predictable choices of mothers and fathers where children are involved.

    However this identity-ONLY metric will continue to provide the optics of “discrimination”, an expedient source of grievance politics where middle-class identitarians leverage off the plight off the working class majority for their own advantage.

    • I largely agree with your analysis Tui. This article reads like the sort of “journalism” you might see in Stuff. Until Maaori and Pasifika school attendance and qualifications improve, ethnic “pay-gaps” are inevitable. But some people think they can flatten out pay-gaps by scolding employers, or setting quotas etc.

      Analyses of the gender pay-gap in the MSM are usually tendentious and grossly simplistic. One cause is that the sort of nurturing roles that many women gravitate to are undervalued by our society. But I think the biggest driver is sexual selection. The traits that will get men ahead at work (and get them promoted) are also attractive to many women – both directly and indirectly. Men can’t help but notice this, and so men are DRIVEN to get ahead at work – not all men of course, but as a generalization it’s accurate. The situation for women is a bit different. The personality traits that get one ahead at work do not have anything like the same sexual payoff for women – although they rarely repel men, neither do they make women more attractive to most men (there will be exceptions of course).

      To sum up, most women want “successful” men, and over time this rachets up assertiveness, ruthlessness and status-seeking behaviour in males. Men, on the other hand, are much less interested in how professionally and socially successful women are – we’re focused on other traits. One result of this difference is the gender pay-gap.

      • @PPII I agree broadly that nature will trump nurture at the population level (except under extreme coercion), however I think there is value in examining social outcomes/norms/attitudes to see if they are legitimate, fair or even fit for purpose.

        To give an example, at the risk of over-simplifying I’d support encouraging men to stay home with kids and women to be engineers to remove stigma or discrimination against individuals who what to chose those paths. At the same time fully acknowledging that due to sex differences we will never achieve equity at the population level. That is equality for the individual rather than equity for the population. The former is about fairness in opportunity the latter is about ideological coercion.

        Equity as cited in the article can be one measure among many but the issue I have is trying to diagnose a problem with such a narrow examination. If you went to the doctor with gut pain and heart palpitations but the doctor just took your temperature, found a fever so prescribed aspirin and sent you home, that would be incompetence.
        We have loads of tests for the body because there are many indicators, some may reinforce a fever-only diagnosis, others contradict it.

        The economy and wage gap is the same, hyper focus on equity is at best well meaning incompetence and at worse manufacturing narratives for political expediency.

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