BREAKING: NEW POLL – National + ACT can form Government

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New Curia Poll is out and it shows National + ACT can form a Government…

…just how batshit crazy ACT policy is will make many flinch however…

Christopher Luxon may not be able to keep Finance Minister promise, David Seymour says

ACT’s David Seymour says Christopher Luxon may not be able to keep his “promise” that Nicola Willis will be the Finance Minister in a future National-led Government as Kiwis may want him in that role instead.

ACT’s alternative Budget, released on Monday, has sparked a conversation about what policies the National Party could support in any future governing arrangement. For National to take the Treasury benches again, it’s highly likely it will need ACT’s seats for support.

But Luxon, the National leader, has resisted getting into what ACT policies his party could support, saying any discussion about governing arrangements is too far off at the moment. He has repeated National’s current position on the likes of increasing the superannuation age and the tax system.

…Many blokes have walked away from Labour and the Greens and are voting National because they are sick of Jacinda and our ever triggered woke hysterical activists.

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There are 2 things everyone flirting with voting National need to recognise right now.

1: Luxon can do the 45 second CEO soundbite but he has zero intellectual curiosity, he is a devout evangelical Christian whom believes his wealth is proof positive that Jesus loves him. His policies will make things far far far worse in this country in terms of housing, inequality and poverty so don’t pretend voting against Jacinda for him makes you radical or edgy, it makes you a fuckwit

2: Luxon is such a boofhead, he’ll let David run rings around him in terms of pushing through crazy ACT Party policy because Luxon isn’t interested in philosophy, he’s interested in God’s love of him being the best he can be. Policy is something the little people do, and Christopher don’t do little people stuff. National are selling Luxon’s certainty to you, and that’s all.

You vote National, you get ACT Far Right Policy.

Make no mistakes that Seymour wants to ram this madness through, and Chris Luxon is intellectually too vain to stop him.

You vote National, you get ACT Far Right Policy.

New National recruits are voting because they are angry with Labour and the Greens, they don’t realise yet what they are actually getting with that protest vote.

You vote National, you get ACT Far Right Policy.

Once punters realise what the fuck crazy David Seymour can ram past an easily distracted Luxon, the sooner they’ll come back to Labour.

Sure, male voters are pissed off with the Left, but they’re not fucking insane.

Luxon needs Nicola to soften his hard right ‘abortion is murder’ stance from female voters but he doesn’t have any intellectual curiosity towards the ants who live under him, and David Seymour is vastly smarter than this clown and will get all of this vast mutilation of the State’s capacity through without Luxon noticing or caring!

Luxon is a big ole’ CEO alpha bull boofhead with zero intellectual curiosity and just the total certainty that Jesus loves him, David Seymour will play him like a fiddle and you all known it!

The smart yellow fox will jump over the lazy blue log.

The next election will be the most polarised in NZ’s history.

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81 COMMENTS

  1. Hey look at that! 2023 has come early! Next poll will have factors like law and order with the farmer jury decision, and underhand govt spying on kiwis using social media, plus 88 people in PR at NZTA.

  2. You vote Labour and you get Greens and possible Maori Party. At one stage this would have been a natural union but going on the actions of Labour I predict there would be a lot of infighting and little progress at a time of great financial upheaval. National and Act seems the better leaders to me .

      • And the Maori Party Greens and Labour Maori cabinet are not racist. Have you heard Jackson and Davis lately.

    • Wow Trevor, the infighting has already begun for the Nats and ACT with David Seymour insisting he will be Finance Minister. You want “financial upheaval” be prepared for it in spades with that little turd with his hands on the purse strings. I would rather National win the ability to govern out right than have ACT in the mix. No wonder Seymour championed right to die legislation. With him power you might want to.

      • Anker. Me too. But if I were a man rather than a non man, I would not have walked away from the Purple Party, I would have run like a hurricane and not looked back.

  3. They’re not necessarily going to vote National or ACT.

    But they are not going to vote Labour or Greens either. I can’t see this changing after 4.5 years of non achievement.

    And although I hope beyond hope they’ll take housing seriously, some things are just too embedded to change that turn voters off, namely kindness to crime whilst other things like new taxes (congestion charges) in the thick of a cost of living crisis are again, a vote killer.

    Labour need to wake up from their hibernation and read the room. As for the Greens; they’re too far up their own arses to notice.

  4. Not surprising, Labour lost it’s way and has no clue.

    They have been engulfed with the rogernoms like David Parker who are only there because they are list MP’s and woke thinking from Labour/Greens/Maori party everywhere who all compete for the same votes.

    So far apart from Covid lockdowns where Labour were popular, none of their woke, Rogernomics led policies have helped anybody but developers and low waged employers make more profits while keeping wages down and prices high.

    Of many disasters, from more taxes to social division of government services (3 waters, unemployment insurance, health division) to

    learning government were putting through another 165,000 resident visas and then putting in a congestion charge for Auckland.

    Who is their target voter??? You really have to wonder as most of their policies seem to be motivated by about 30% of the population while the other 70% who work and pay taxes in NZ (but not rich listers) are expected to pay more taxes.

    They can’t even spend the money on the taxes they collect like the petrol tax which 50% was not spent and was supposed to transform public transport, before dreaming up more ways to tax people after giving up on trains and public transport that people can use without a 2 hour commute each way.

  5. Labour will be known to be the one party that spend three years of a full majority in a MMP environment to lose. Got shit fuck all done that would trickle down to the peasants, lofty goals full of bullshit but they won’t smell their shite cause they all wear masks, misery abound in motels and vans full of homeless people, thousand dollar tax payer funded hand outs for rich people to buy green washed cars and food parcels for full time worker who don’t earn enough to eat two sandwiches and a hot meal a day, and so on and so on.
    They are not losing because they are Labour or left, they are losing because they are willfully incompetent to the point of being malicious fuckwits that rejoice in the destruction of society believing that they are not part of it. And people are starting to come around to thinking that Labour might actually be worse then National. Well done Jacinda and your crew of motely fuckwits. Well fucking done.

  6. It’s worse than that — I simply do not believe that the Greens has almost 10% support, or the Maori Party has 2.4% support…more like 4% for the Greens, and 1% for the Maori Party.

    NZ First will get in by 2023, and after the Speaker attempt to get Winston trespassed, he will not support Labour…

    • “I simply do not believe that the Greens has almost 10% support”

      Wishful thinking Nathan. Plenty of impressionable youngsters support the Greens.

  7. Get ready for:
    1) US style healthcare. No money, you die
    2) Sell off of state housing. landlords get to charge $1000 a week rent, everyone else gets to live under a bridge
    3) Benefit cuts
    4) Wage freeze across the board. Maybe even wage cuts
    5) get rid of ACC. If you get hurt at work, you lose everything when you have go on a benefit
    6) interest on student loans, taking longer to people to pay them off
    7) charter schools, with creationism being taughts, and LGBTQ students getting kicked out
    8) suspension of due process, police being allowed to gun down who they like
    9) prisons turned over to the gangs, who are allowed to rape and shank who they like
    10) prescription prices to double
    11) power prices to skyrocket as what passes for regulation is removed
    12) scrapping of any and all clean air and water regulations, leading to our air being thick with smog and rivers being chocked with toxic water, ie China and Somalia
    13) Toll road being imposed
    14) rail system being shut down
    15) water privatized to multinational companies
    16) No sick leave
    17) no paid holidays
    18) unions and striked outlawed
    19) prescription co-pay doubled
    20) labour market flooded with immigrants, holding down wages and locking New Zealanders out of various part of the job markets. Also a lot of people will find it harder to gain work.

    • And it’s the plonkers in the Labour government who are 100% responsible for having to be voted out to stop reverse apartheid being instigated, sneaky below the radar, unmandated unwanted he puapua and congovernance.
      May they spend a long time in the wilderness before they come back begging forgiveness.

    • The difference is Act can be reasoned with, Labour seemingly cannot be.

      The strongest argument against Act would be; they have far too many ideas to tear down and only a few to build up.

      Though this is a poor argument in light on things such as NZ-on-Air funding a 200K+ documentary on Chloe Swarbrick.

      • Act despise public ownership and anything to do with the public sector. They would gladly charge people to stay in our hospitals and triple doctor fees. They would also slash welfare and get rid of state housing. Rents would skyrocket to $2000 a week because landlords just milk their tenants for everything.

  8. “Once punters realise what the fuck crazy David Seymour can ram past an easily distracted Luxon, the sooner they’ll come back to Labour.

    Sure, male voters are pissed off with the Left, but they’re not fucking insane”

    Nh bro the left have lost them for good

    why would you want to vote for people who openly declare you are a “privileged white supremacist” when in fact you’re just an average kiwi getting on with your life.

    I don’t like National nor Act but I will take them over the left’s divisive poison any day

    anyhow I’ll be voting NZF at this rate,

    At this point in time the left seem intent on unraveling the very fabric of society itself but all they have to replace it with is identit politics and anti white racism, they offer nothing positive so feck em.

  9. “The next election will be the most polarised in NZ’s history.”

    Yeah, nah. Some of us were voting in the 1970s

  10. Luxon is a smart operator. He knows he needs to win the center and is happy for Seymour to win the right. At the end of the day, they both want to be in government. Act policy is only unparalleled to those on the left, if you lean right you’re more than happy for many of Acts policies to be implemented. Just like many on the left would prefer Labour to be far more progressive and truly transformational.

    If Ardern wants a third term, she needs to stop pushing He Puapua and co-governance, keep Mallard out of the headlines and ideally go to the polls early. Labour will be under 30% by Christmas.

    • good comment, Uncle Fester is playing for the middle of the road kiwi voter who just wants to live their life in peace

      That’s why he didnt meet the anti mandate protesters etc why would he want to meet them at the risk of alienating so many of his potential voters

  11. The doctors’ union says there is no point encouraging overseas health workers to come to New Zealand if the pay and conditions are too poor to keep them here.

    By allowing another 165,000 new residents to use our health systems it is placing more stain on health services who are expected to serve 165,000 more people (yes health care workers get sick too!) and train and support the new recruits on top of their own duties….

    However, Resident Doctors Association head Deborah Powell said her union was worried about the number of clinicians poised to leave.

    “We’ve relied on international work forces for years under the district health boards, because they haven’t supported the ability of New Zealanders to train and work in these areas, and I just think that’s fundamentally wrong.”

    Not just health care, every type of NZ work now seems to be reliant on overseas workers being recruited to replace the growing amount of expert people who are leaving their industries because the Rogernomics globalist system of lowering wages and conditions while creating consumption is not sustainable.

    NZ is borrowing to ensure that we can pretend that 20 years of Rogernomic, Globalist, Migration led growth is working.

    The ram raids, brain drain, lack of expertise in NZ and poverty suggests that it is not.

  12. And there’s the problem. Labour plus Greens plus Maori plus NZ First plus “Other” could form a government, but a lot of people see the Maori Party as batshit crazy too. Mind you, NZ First and Maori Party have to get across the threshold or take an electorate seat……

  13. As you have said recently, “TDB has been pointing out that the Wellington Bureaucracy certainly do control policy and have far too much influence for their own self interest”.

    I think Seymour is tapping into this concern, and he is — unsurprisingly — getting traction. Labour needs to do some sensible trimming: the bath water, the little rubber duckies, but keeping the baby.

      • It’s the socialists handouts with no responsibility, accountability or expectations that Labour/Greens/Maori deliberately use to create the lifetime dependency that’s preventing people reaching their full potential.

      • Horseshit! Full potential hahahaha you mean like the 88 highly paid bludgers would make up the PR dept….of our transport agency???? What the fuck!!! They all need to go. Everyone one of them. Unless they design or build roads….which they don’t. They spin woke bullshit like the disastrous unrealistic road to zero crap. Millsy you need to remove your blinkers and get a propaganda detox.

      • I don’t think that public sector workers are anything to be admired because they don’t tell us when they mess up.

        Private sector security is different from public sector security and financializing the workforce does have national security implications like lowering the physical requirements for entry into The NZDF amongst other things.

    • A good start Tom. But a lot more needs to go – the organic sponges, the underfloor heating, the gender-neutral bathroom decor consultants.

    • Unfortunately the Wellington Bureaucracy and many in the Labour Party elite have become completely in tune with one another. And serving the public (as in ‘public servant’) is no longer their raison d’etre.
      Control freakery, ‘we know best’, self promotion, arrogance, ego and building impressive C.V’s, and a lack of any sort of humility rulz. I differentiate of course between the senior and muddle management managerialists and those at the coal face.
      The Faaff is always going to find a secure home if he chooses to exit as but one example of how it now operates. (I’d prefer we gave him a knighthood and shunted him off to some remote atoll where the cargo cultists still reign supreme. (Apparently a nice bloke though – just as useless as tits on a bull in all his portfolios. There are probably also media opportunities as well – let’s hope they on the same atoll)

  14. Thanks to Labour instigating he puapua by stealth, voters are forced to choose to be second class citizens in their own country depending on skin colour, or vote for a more austere version of Labour economic policy.
    Labour forced this choice.
    Don’t blame the voters, blame a Labour Party that is completely off the rails.

    • Keepcalmcarryon. Yes, instigating he Puapua by stealth was a major misfire, although what the voters know of it is an unknown. I read 20 or so pages and am not sure if I want to read any more. The surreptitious way it was done and apparently concealed from a coalition partner, gives lie to any claims about this being a transparent government, and the constitutional implications are major. Beneath the surface there seems to have been another layer of persons beavering away in secret, and trying to trespass and ban Winston Peters from the Parliamentary precinct looks like part of a divide and rule dialectic – as well as being crude bullying.

  15. Lol. The slide continues. Yep would imagine Poor Man’s Gordon Brown’s cornflakes are particularly salty as his moment in the limelight is fading. Napoleon will ask himself when does he stab Snowball (Ardern) in the back. Meanwhile the Hallensteins sales assistant and the Tainui Princess are starting their respective 2024 runs for leadership. Talk about a loooong tail……

    Also there is a god. Our Glorious Leader has covid. All that be kind smug hermit nation bullshit, jabs and face nappies count for nothing. Can’t really enjoy her next pre-honeymoon holiday when you feel like shit…..

    • I know who the Tainui princess is but please, for the uninitiated: who are the poor man’s Gordon brown, the hallensteins sales assistant and Napoleon?

      • Poor Mans Gordon Brown – Grant Robertson. Just like the real Gordon Brown number 2 to a once mega popular leader now intensely disliked; a poor financial operator who delusionally believes he is the best in room and is likely to inherent the PM’s Job with no chance of winning the next election.
        Napoleon is also Robertson and is an ode to Animal Farm that encapsulates the rise and fall of this government so completely.
        Hallensteins Sales Assistant – Michael Wood. Go into a suit shop and tell me Wood doesn’t remind you of their shop floor salespersons.

    • Just as I said to the tribal left here when Bojo got covid and was roundly mocked- it’s shit to score political points off someone who is sick.
      Cant stand her politics but I hope JA and family get well soon.

  16. Kelvin Davis would have to apologise to Pakeha New Zealanders for insulting our ancestors before I would consider voting for Labour again and even then I doubt that I could.

  17. I read a bit of fluff on Stuff earlier about what Labour needs to do – written by a millennial I have high hopes for in her gorgeous journalistic career development, work life balance and development of an impressive C.c.. Can’t remember her name but with references, she could even end up on Al Jazeera if she puts her mind to it.

    If Labour can AT LEAST pull off supermarket reform – in line with the CommComs DRAFT report, and maybe on top of that, shoving it up the oil companies, they’ll be in like Flynne

    What are the chances though? Megan eh, GR and Alf, Garbak’s NW and all who sail in it, The Faaafff.
    I suspect we’re going to have to go thru’ a fair bit more fuckwittery before things slowly get better.
    Incrementalism and the art of the possible apparently – even WHEN under MMP, you have a mandate for hopey hopey changey changey stuff

  18. To be honest, good.

    The more and more I hear from Labour and the Greens the more I want this government gone.

    I like the prime minister but I don’t like her government. It’s arrogant technocratic and totally out of sync with the majority of NZ on social policy. It’s like they got the most social liberal arts degree lecturers to write their reform agenda.

    I’m economically left wing. I’m socially centerist and on a few issues socially conservative. This govt is economically centerist to conservative and socially radically left.

    The govt has done some good things and Im mixed race and i do want compulsory te reo in school, I support the true history of NZ being taught in NZ

    Like the majority of NZ however, I don’t want democracy to be “tweaked” I don’t want sweeping constitutional reforms passed under so fast that they only get stopped by a last minute judgement by the AG. I do want nationalisation of waters to stop councils selling it but i don’t three Waters.

    As someone whose had to deal with the corruption that is whanau ora and nearly lost a loved one to bad medical care from whanau ora I don’t want a seperate health board run by the same Ngati trickle down neoliberals to compliment the white neoliberals in the main health system, I want the one we have fixed so it works for all people regardless of class, poor people slip through the cracks and die early because being poor is a death sentence, but instead we focus on symptoms not root causes. I don’t want neoliberal identity politics I want Keynesian economic policies that make life easier for the best.

    I don’t want ministry of transport spending more on consultants than projects and I don’t want more bureaucrats made up departments, middle management and identity based neoliberalism.

    I don’t want a govt that treats me differently because I’m Ngati Mutunga or because I’m gay.

    In fact the left make me ashamed to be gay because I’m unwillingly associated with maniac identitarian policies and get shamed for not being a “queer activist” when all I want is to live a normal life and takeaways at home. Being gay is not important to me but the left think it’s all there is to me.

    I want housing, living costs, health sorted but that’s not gonna happen under this govt. Just more and more and more neoliberal social policy.

    So.

    I’d be happy with a national act govt that rolls back some of the radical social engineering neoliberal fuckery this government engages in.

    On social policy this govt is extreme. Some of the things they say are authoritarian.

    The greens are better on economic policy but on social policy they make Labour look conservative.

    The idea of them working with a party that calls labours vaccine roll out genocide and throws around words like caucasity when talking about an ag ruling on democracy and says it rejects liberal democracy and supports iwi law over national law.

    Fuck. That. Fuck that again.

    If it’s close enough that Maori party are balance of power I hope enough social conservative labour voters vote national. We may not get the economic policy we want

    I shan’t ever vote blue but I will smile if this social engineering nightmare ends next year.

    Acceptance of gay people is trending down for the first time in decades due to our mostly unwanted association with this psychotic backwards left wing movement that drapes themselves in rainbow flags and wants to change the world to suit them when gay people just want to fit in.

    And straight leftys calling gay men part of the “queer community” and telling us we’re bigots if we don’t like being called queer. Which we by and large dont. Fuck that.

    A decade or preferably two in opposition may get the left off of this social engineering radical identity addiction of there and start focusing on class issues and neo-unversalism.

    If labour ditches this identity politics crusade and starts actually focusing on bread and butter issues I may vote for them but if they continue down this screeching evil identity crusade for another year. I’ll cheer when they lose.

    They are alienating gay people like crazy. Act might get more gay votes than the left next election simply because act doesn’t want to treat gay men and women any differently than anyone else where we the left want to treat us like victims.

    • Great Comment especially pointing out even if you are part of their favoured identity groups, they are not doing them a favour and making it worse.

      “As someone whose had to deal with the corruption that is whanau ora and nearly lost a loved one to bad medical care from whanau ora I don’t want a seperate health board run by the same Ngati trickle down neoliberals to compliment the white neoliberals in the main health system, I want the one we have fixed so it works for all people regardless of class, poor people slip through the cracks and die early because being poor is a death sentence, but instead we focus on symptoms not root causes. I don’t want neoliberal identity politics I want Keynesian economic policies that make life easier for the best.

      I don’t want ministry of transport spending more on consultants than projects and I don’t want more bureaucrats made up departments, middle management and identity based neoliberalism.

      I don’t want a govt that treats me differently because I’m Ngati Mutunga or because I’m gay.

      In fact the left make me ashamed to be gay because I’m unwillingly associated with maniac identitarian policies and get shamed for not being a “queer activist” when all I want is to live a normal life and takeaways at home. Being gay is not important to me but the left think it’s all there is to me.

      I want housing, living costs, health sorted but that’s not gonna happen under this govt. Just more and more and more neoliberal social policy.”

      • Great post Corey. Unfortunately I don’t think LINO are likely to “ditch this identity politics crusade and start actually focusing on bread and butter issues”. LINO in 2022 can best be described as a progressive neoliberal party.

    • Wow Corey! Just wow. The best comment I have read on a poltical blog ever! I too want Labour, Greeens and definitely Te Party Maori not in Govt!

      i will probably vote Act or maybe NZ first. They are not what I want economically, but lets face it things have got so much worse under this Govt, so its worth the risk to get rid of all this identity politic bull shit!

    • Corey
      I reckon you are totally in tune with all those voters who will put National and Act in govt for the same reasons you will. Quite simply, other than covid, this govt has been disastrous. Worst ever since we’ve been in NZ for 25 years.

      • Horseshit!
        Nationals 9 corrupt years were the worst in political history, hell they even control the New Zealand Herald and thus the media.

        • 2023 is soon. Bye bye. Oh…the damp squib Emissions plan without details will not save Labour. But hey…crack open the (carbon free!) bubbly if you like, TROLL.

    • So you want to lock up LGBT’s, and ban abortion/ birth control, not to mention get rid of no fault divorce and impose the Bible on everyone

      • It’s a religious belief that all life sacred.

        It’s not that Conservatives are wrong for holding beliefs systems it’s that currently their is a biase towards conservative opinion.

        For example Sean Pluncket got fired for his conservative opinions. Now commercial Media truly has earnt the title left leaning.

        Instead of conservative war mongering on commercial Media it’s all leftwing war mongering.

        I think we focused to much on how the left go wrong thinking we knew where and how the right go wrong. But it looks like the right are coming up with knew ways of going wrong that doesn’t look like Hitler.

        I mean Seemore has Maori ancestry yet he despise moari privilege.

        I think it’s a great mistake criminalizing conservative values.

  19. Robo needs to crack out his stash of Bazooka Cash from the last Bazooka he’s got hiding in the Treasury Account, about $35b-$37b and have a Party or Bribe day!

    • Yes the Daily Blog is starting to resemble Tory Talk ZB and The Tory Times Herald. The same audiences – grumpy Jacinda-hating old men and woman. Only dumb idiotic fools would predict election outcomes from polls 16 months before the voting starts. I’ll wait until nearer the election when there are more reliable pollsters than the Right wing NATZACT dirty politics driven Curio and Taxpayers union polls. By then luxon will have been replaced or done a Muller.
      If you remember NATZ history they couldn’t give a shit about Maori, Gays, unemployed, Pacifica, Indians, lower-middle class, hospitals, teachers, police, homeless as there are no votes in it. They are only interested in the rich and greedy and I think a lot of right wing commentators are acting above their station.
      Jacinda is a world leader and appreciated around the world while in NZ the misogynist right wing are jealous that a young woman and her Government have been successful in keeping NZers safe and at the same time fighting foreign impacts against the NZ economy better than other countries. Now they’ve got rid of subsidising the tax of the tory’s property speculation friends the cost of housing is levelling out and new builds are booming. Unemployment is at levels the NATZ have never achieved. So you should all appreciate the efforts of this government.

      • “they couldn’t give a shit about Maori, Gays, unemployed, Pacifica, Indians, lower-middle class, hospitals, teachers, police, homeless as there are no votes in it.”

        No votes in it?? Maths was never my forte, but I’m guessing that list of yours takes in about 75% of the electorate.

        You’re on safe ground touting Jacinda as a world leader. She is indeed a world leader … in spin, smiliness and sneakiness.

  20. It seems we are not that different to those in the USA.

    There the white identity voters oppose an increase in the federal MW to $15. They are quite happy on their $10-12 provided others (not so white) are on a lower level. This means they can afford to live in different areas. Of course it layered into their fear of CRT and the intrusion of social liberalism into their schools.

    Here a lot of people would put up with a change to NACT management despite all that entails for social services and workers wages – quality of life for the many will decline. All because of concerns about Maori empowerment into co-governance and establishment favour for greenwashing/social liberalism.

  21. It’s not a protest vote ! It’s the realisation that after 4 and a half years of Labour the country is damn near stuffed . Only a fuckwit would vote for more of the same !

  22. We still don’t have a decent alternative to L/G.

    If I brought political Tshirts mine would say “…another ex Labour/Green voter”

  23. How come so many Pakehas don’t want to share power. I guess when you have been in charge for so so long and have had it all your way, your culture, language, laws, beliefs and entire systems based on one peoples it hard to share but its time to share and stop being so greedy and selfish.

    • @CiP
      I think you’ll find most of the resistance is to woke neoliberal corporatists Pakeha or Maori. It is convenient to frame this in the media as a racial issue (and invoke the spectre of white supremacists) when it is mostly a class issue.

      Tell me how the bright new future of a Lab+Grn+TMP government will usher in anything better for the vast majority of ordinary Maori or Pakeha. While you’re at it can you tell me if TMP represents any interests outside those of King Country Maori elites? Anecdotally I see zero support and a good deal of cynicism among Maori friends and acquaintances in Northland and South Island.

      So you don’t get it twisted, this is NOT and endorsement of a National+ACT government.

  24. Reality has to be factored in.

    “You vote National, you get ACT Far Right Policy. Make no mistakes that Seymour wants to ram this madness through, and Chris Luxon is intellectually too vain to stop him.”

    Many will be in that camp and nothing will stop them. For a start they probably can’t even spell ‘far.’

    They put tin foil on their heads in Wellington. They won’t send their kids to school for fear their littlies will be dragged off and vaccinated. They believe that in 2017 Labour started a campaign to have a housing crisis. They believe no houses are being built in NZ. They think there should have been no stoppages at the border at any stage for Covid or any lockdowns.

    They think Labour wanted all the 501s back from Australia and invited them. They think the simple act of joining a gang means you go to jail. At the same time of wanting that mode of an extreme police state regime, they want to whinge and cry and have mental health help because an extreme police state regime had them wear masks. It’s the mob who bitch about the state of the roads, saying more need to be built and there be maintenance on existing ones, but go spare when they see a road cone.

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