The sudden forced importation of huge swathes of hardened Australian crims into the NZ criminal scene is a unique event and they bring with them a level of violence unseen before in the NZ criminal underworld and that isn’t the fault of Labour!
These new Australian connected gangs don’t use Chinese organised crime syndicates for their meth, they have Mexican cartel links who are ultra violent and produce a higher grade meth for a far cheaper price and that the explosion of organised hits and assassinations that have plagued the NZ criminal fraternity for the last 5years is being driven by these new Australian imports.
These new 501 syndicates fly under the radar, unlike the Rebels and Comancheros, they don’t display patches and move with cunning and strategic purpose to strengthen supply chains and market protection.
When alpha gangs like the HeadHunters and Hells Angels are defending their HQs with steal plating after attacks you know shit has gotten real.
Bad news is that this dynamic is about to get far, far, far, far, far worse…
New Aussie deportation laws could see more Kiwis thrown out
The Australian Senate’s due to vote on controversial new migration laws on Tuesday, that could see more New Zealanders deported under the existing 501 policy.
…that’s right folks, the 501 law that picks people Australia doesn’t like and who have had absolutely no upbringing in NZ and dumps them back here with all the social damage of using a hammer on an infant is about to get far worse!
Most of these guys have no community in NZ and they are threatened with exile on a pacific torture prison if they don’t accept a flight back to NZ.
Look at what they do at the pacific torture prisons…
501 deportees gushing blood, tied to furniture at Aussie facility
A video showing bloodied prisoners after an altercation with guards where they were apparently beaten with steel pipes is emblematic of the “total brutality” prisoners face, according to an advocate for New Zealanders in Australia’s offshore corrections facilities.
…they threaten these guys with a pacific torture prison or a one way ticket to Auckland.
Most take the one way ticket to Auckland.
One could make the argument that seeing as these sons and daughters of NZ were raised by Australia’s society, then their criminality is on Australia NOT NZ!
We also have to appreciate that the last 2 years of covid has created a level of desperation that is fuelling crime…
Auckland crime spikes as police tied up with growing number of welfare calls
Aucklanders are calling for more police on their streets, with local officers often tied up on welfare jobs relating to mental health and family harm.
Heart of the City chief executive and Auckland mayoral candidate Viv Beck wrote to Police Minister Poto Williams in December about the lack of police “on the beat” in Auckland CBD.
…none of this sudden explosion of crime generated by the 501 syndicates is on Labour, this is a unique event in the criminal underworld but the politics of claiming Labour are ‘soft on crime’ is too easy for National to resist.
Such a juxtaposition brings us to Luxon’s response to the 501s on breakfast earlier this month…
Luxon wants ‘tough on crime’ approach to 501 deportees
National leader Christopher Luxon wants a “tough on crime” approach to 501 deportees, as Australian lawmakers consider proposals to strengthen its ability to cancel visas which could see a large increase in people with tenuous links deported to New Zealand.
…Matty kept asking the question ‘shouldn’t we have more wrap around services’ to which Christian Lex Luthor thundered ‘No Matty! Tough on crime’ blah blah blah”.
Here’s the problem with Luxon’s position, he clearly doesn’t understand Matty’s point nor does he seem to appreciate the process. These 501s are literally dumped off at the airport, given $300 and told, ‘good luck’.
They haven’t committed crimes in NZ, so we don’t have any real power over them, with zero oversight, bugger all resourced as a welcome and barely any family connections in NZ, our current system almost incentivises these guys to go straight to hardened violent crime.
If there is no off ramp provided for these guys, they walk straight into the criminal world.
I agree that there is going to need to be an organised crime tactical force akin to Simon Bridge’s much mocked Raptor Force simply because the level of professionalism, sophistication and violence from the 501 syndicates demands it, but we can’t go funding a vast militarisation of the Police without an equally vast sum spent on trying to reform and help these 501s when they first re-enter NZ society before we need to use Raptor Force.
Make no mistake, the gang war is coming, the fight over the meth trade will only heat up and the Police Intelligence Unit is going to have to lift its game…
Gang Intelligence Centre leadership concerns revealed in document release
New Zealand’s Gang Intelligence Centre has been blighted by poor leadership and has been struggling to reduce the harm caused by organised crime.
Multiple sources RNZ has talked to said the leadership of the Gang Intelligence Centre was “clueless”, and one person said it was run by a bunch of buffoons.
Leadership were said to have no understanding of the gang environment, which in turn meant the centre was failing to have an impact on the harm being caused by gangs.
…when you have gangs spraying other gang pads with semiautomatics, you have lost control of the situation.
This would not be happening if there was a competent Gang Intelligence Centre. The point is to never let shit get to this level.
This lack of leadership is terrifying on a range of fronts.
The first is of course the eruption of gang violence we are witnessing due to the 501s taking over domestic gangs.
The second is that we have handed Police a bewilderingly huge power in the form of facial recognition software they gained from a corrupt company without any sign off from politicians or the people.
So we have a Gang Intelligence Centre armed with the most powerful mass surveillance system who have no fucking idea how to deal with the looming gang war!
Everyone feeling safe yet?
What isn’t helping any of this is Police Minister Poto Williams…
Police Minister blocks MP from meeting commanders, says cops ‘too busy’
Police Minister Poto Williams has refused to let National’s police spokesman meet the Commissioner or any district commanders, saying cops are too busy for him.
Mark Mitchell took over the National police portfolio late last year and has cried foul over Williams’ repeated refusals of his requests.
The Opposition MP and Williams also had a feisty exchange in the House today, where the minister accused former cop Mitchell of “disrespecting” police.
…Look, no one like Mark Mitchell, and nor should they, but he is the Opposition spokesperson on Police, he has to be allowed to meet the top brass and talk to them.
This is basic stuff and yet Poto is refusing to allow him to meet Police and then has the audacity to accuse Mitchell of ‘disrespecting’ police.
Mark Mitchell worships the bloody Police, of all the things to claim he is, ‘disrespecting Police’ ain’t one of them.
This is Poto Williams playing petty games and thinking they are Machiavellian masterstrokes and then when she gets caught out in Parliament doing it, resorts to name calling Mark Mitchell.
It’s petty and it’s beneath the mana of Parliament and the office she holds.
Let Mark Mitchell meet Police and criticise his actual policy suggestions rather than play games and name call!
In light of the petty spite Trevor Mallard showed during the Dumb Lives Matter protest, do we honestly think Labour should be playing this type of politics?
If we are not going to seriously tackle the reason why the gang wars are brewing then we won’t actually stop it from erupting.
The Police have the powers for this, but no fresh thinking.
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Meanwhile, one of Police’s genius ideas to deal with firearms harm is … ban those under 16 from shooting under supervision at a licensed range!
That’ll make things better
(Those same under 16s can still shoot under supervision on land that was any a range though. It’s 5 dimensional Chess, clearly)
Focus on the real issues is not a priority it seems.
Potato is an embarrassment of a minister. Her highest qualifications in policing are social work. What on earth possessed Jacinda to put her in that portfolio we will never know. Stupid move! National will pick Poto apart like vultures.
Cabbage “ What…possessed Jacinda to put her in that portfolio we will never know.” With identity politics being the name of the game, and with due respect to both parties, you raise a perspicacious point when Maori women and the police are not a very comfortable fit. If this was a social experiment, then it may be the wrong time and the wrong place to be conducting it.
GA
It strikes me that most of what Labour do is social experimenting, rather than running the country properly. Have a look at all their big policies these days…
And your calling of names is embarrassing and demeaning. Why do people think they can call women politicians names and think its ok? and don’t lecture me on free speech. There is absolutely no need ,these people have names and in my opinion you start a comment with name calling you have lost the argument. Misogyny is alive and well on the daily blog but hey its ok because you have the freedom to say what you like all under the auspices of free speech and anything goes and any other opinion is woke !!
Poor GE is all offended.
Well, have you noticed all the demeaning names they call (man/male) Luxon or any other Nazto MP (male or female)? So that’s ok then is it? Because he’s a bloke and not a woman politician? So if KLuxon was a woman, no name calling allowed? I see. Do we get upset? No, it’s part of the game here. It’s a tough sport here. As tough as the Black Ferns and we are not asking to sack the coach. Do I get upset because Gentle Annie calls me Cabbage – no, why??! Some here have called me Nazi – howzat for name calling GE? Try that. Am I joining MeToo? Don’t think so. Am I setting up a TwitterFaceGram account to go and bleat to the whole world, hoping Stuff and the Herald pick my sorry ass ‘kraut got teased’ story? No! I’m sure Poto (notice I didn’t say Potatoe) can handle it. She’s tough as. She has to be. After all, she is our minister of…wait for it…POLICE!!!!
Gillian I agree we should be focusing on what politicians say and especially what they do, rather than making fun of their names. But it is very tempting to mess with the names of people we’re unimpressed by, and most of us give in to temptation sooner or later – myself included.
But what is your evidence that it’s about misogyny? Have you not noticed that male politicians also get called names? James Shaw was mocked as “The Shawrax” by Victor Billot. I’ve seen Grant Robertson called “Grunter” on this site, and Ricardo Mendez called “El Woko Loco” elsewhere. Bomber sometimes has a go at Gerry “Brownstain” – and I’ll admit I myself have got on Gerry’s case too, dubbing him “Gerrymander” Brownlee. And looking further afield, who could forget Tony “Bliar”? (well-earned, in my opinion), Ronny Ray-gun, and “Slippery Willy” Clinton?
so is vapid stupidity and potato is it’s current embodiment…
don’t fret tomorrows chip papers an that.
Poto is dreadful, beyond salvation, but she didn’t select the style of policing we are seeing now, her boss did! Even worse Jacinda knew she was a poor fit but put her there for her welfare experience.
We saw it in action in Wellington during the protests, the police commissioner selected by Jacinda elected to pack it in and monitor it, “reassurance patrols”, “high visibility patrols”. No one was reassured except the protestors. And we in the community have seen this repeatedly over the past two years.
We see it everytime gangs take over roads and highways, “monitoring” with the aforementioned other catch phrases, but God forbid, the police do something useful! Everytime there’s a blatant shoot out, it’s some poor cop standing in the shooting gallery with a rifle for the photo op, ready to be shot in a heartbeat but the image, the theatre, is what is most important.
Poto did not pseudo decriminalise possession of meth, nope, her boss did. Meth users are hardly the most law abiding stable creatures are they? But in doing so Labour gave the gangs who peddle the shit a free pass. The solution? Book ’em in for a free rehab session. And dear oh dear, that naivity is an abysmal failure is it not?
Give criminals a millimetre, they’ll take your house, car and everything you stand for because they don’t see kindness, they see weakness and exploit it, ruthlessly.
Instead of really trying to rectify the problems within the corrections system, Labour have been quietly emptying jails instead.
NZ is currently Shangri-La to organised and not so organised crime because of the severe naivity of our government and there well meaning but ultimately moronic “kindness”. Blaming invisible 501’s as the reason completely misses the obvious! They are part of but far from the sole reason crime, ram raids, mass stolen cars and pursuits are sky-rocketing.
And of course our warped broken housing market isn’t exactly generating hope for the non home owning masses is it? Getting repeatedly fucked over by the rentier class and living day to day not really knowing where you’ll be living next week, let alone affording it doesn’t help law abiding attitudes. But forget Labour acknowledging that, much less addressing it!
Labour are on a hiding to nothing, deservedly, on law and order because by their lack of care, actions and direction, this is the way they want it! And people do not feel safe or “reassured “, I promise!
Xray well said. Just this Easter a gang Tangi in Hawkes Bay saw the roads taken over by gang followers and the police response was to take photo’s. They’re out gunned out numbered and led by Costa who doesn’t inspire, and is directed to act just like he does. National may not have the right answer but they will do something. Anything. As for the 501’s this country should be doing the same to the Ozzies as they do to us, and there should be no easy ride on our tax payers when they visit or immigrate. They’re not our mates politically, and with our defence policies we don’t deserve to be theirs.
Yes xray you are correct.
” The sudden forced importation of huge swathes of hardened Australian crims into the NZ criminal scene is a unique event and they bring with them a level of violence unseen before in the NZ criminal underworld and that isn’t the fault of Labour! ”
Well why are we accepting dangerous criminals then if they are so dangerous then should customs and immigration refuse them entry ???
This is close to terrorist combatants who would be seen as a severe risk to the safety and well being of the citizens of this country and would be denied access.
Born here is one thing but they have not learnt their craft in little ole NZ.
Once again Australia dictates the terms and we roll over.
Imagine if we tried that Australia would cause a massive diplomatic incident and recall their ambassador in protest.
Labour were the government the last time I looked so why no action around this.
In fact the Nasty Natz are just as complicit in turning a blind eye rather than make a stand over the treatment of Kiwi’s in Australia who work and pay tax but can’t access services.
Another serious breakdown in dealing with the danger but as usual nothing will be done until innocent members of the public get caught in the crossfire and then it will be the master cop out of a ” ministerial ” inquiry.
Can we just cut right across the ultra profitable drug scene and legitimise small amounts of anything in line with the idea that we are all responsible for our own actions as should be the case. But also we may be kind to some little extent- someone those with experience have some ideas. Parents getting help with parenting and attitudes of personal value and competence in the world would help also. Young people could be the ones to get taken from their parents at an age where primary school can see that they are troubled and help them with goals and care, and social values. Otherwise the lessons are harder and the person is harder too.
poverty increases crime goes up, the demand for drugs goes up = gangs prosper they gain money and power and buy officials
potato just isn’t up to the job, lackluster at best…
they shouldn’t even be allowed off the plane, in fact any plane carrying one should be denied landing permission, that pressures airlines through the complaints of paying passengers who will in turn pressure the aussie govt more effectively than NZ can or will.
Potos selection as police minister is a solid reflection of Aderns leadership skills. That is, she has none.
Jays. On the contrary, Ardern may have known exactly what she was doing putting this person into this job.
Well you can go on about the 501’s but an equally growing problem is the explosion in ram raiding, shop holdups and standover tactics from youth gangs, most of them young Polynesians.. Dirt bike cowboys. That would be the Kller Beez. Ram raids, bag snatches, shop holdups. Ditto and others. Completely out of control and no one seems to have an answer for it. Add in the zombie apocalypse that is downtown Auckland and its you have to ask where it ends.
Labour didn’t import the 501s.
Is our leadership expected to do anything about the masses of hardened criminals arriving here?
Lock them up in MIQ hotels maybe?
What can be done?
Is it a problem and solution type issue?
Is it reasonable to expect our leaders to do anything?
Does our leadership say they’re going to control crime and criminals?
And then do what the say?
Yes, the so called leadership should react and do something
don’t accept them at entry points…easy peasey chocolate squeezy, let ’em fill up aussie airport departure lounges.
Ah, foreigners committing white collar crime… so quaint and forgivable compared to those blue collar criminal Kiwi peasants, eh?
our inability/unwillingness to deal with fraud and embezzlement is a different though equally important issue
In the last three years, violent offences have increased 37%.
Labour has reduced the prison population by 30%.
Cause & effect.
sending people down on an ethnic basis is evil, giving a ‘free pass’ on the same basis is equally evil
Much like Ruth Richardson couldn’t change track on Finance does to ideology neither can our Glorious Leader. This is ideology pure and simple – even if she replaced Williams with a right side Labour man such as the Silver Fox or “danger” Damo it would be the same outcome. Coster was handpicked over the much more able Clements and so expect this to be one of the three main electoral issues along with the economy and co-governance.
On 2 of those issues Labour is unable to change tacks while the other is out of their control largely. As said before Labour will be flat out having a 3 in their polling numbers by this time next year.
Te Reo Luxon’s to lose.
Yet another example of the inept Jacinda Ardern Labour Government.
They simply don’t know what to do.
Sure the 501s are an issue, but they don’t explain the violent robbing of corner dairies, the ram raiding of shops and the open air drug use & muggings in downtown Wellington and Auckland. Once beautiful downtown areas now starting to look like Baltimore.
Labour is soft on crime and always has been. Soft sentencing for violent crimes is the government surrendering the country to criminals. When their performance metric is to lower the prison population, it’s no surprise that this is the outcome. Guess they shouldn’t have cancelled those new prison project eh!
The 501 problem is a NZ problem, because NZ government policy gave them NZ citizenship and residency easily and allows anybody who spends little time in NZ to come back and claim NZ status when convenient.
A certain percentage turn to crime (which also seems higher in NZ) and that percentage seems to be coming back to NZ after being deported from other countries.
Not just 501’s, our government went out of their way to get the ISIS brides family back into NZ during the lockdowns who had ‘renounced’ their Australian citizenship.
NZ really is the ‘dumb lives matter’ brigade. They seem to virtue signal about these children of overseas nationals and poor endless resources into them, while ignoring the third world status of NZ domestic kids in cars and care in NZ that are burgeoning.
Meanwhile people who live in NZ and are not coping get little help and those who are working. They seem to be worked to death until they leave NZ.
In spite of not allowing Kiwis back home many NZ groups seem to be virtue gathering how ‘wonderful’ NZ in woke terms, by actively trying to get criminals back into NZ during lockdowns. Lots of money to be made in legal and social bond fees.
It is also very divisive as most people are horrified that some criminal is getting special treatment while normal Kiwis or highly trained migrants such as doctors working in NZ, are ignored.
Government policy seem to support criminals from overseas getting NZ residency, they they wonder why crime and victimisation is increasing. Somehow NZ’s interpretation of human rights, is to push or keep scumbags in NZ to victimise others who live here and crime large and small is now becoming more normalised.
Even when the Mall terrorist tried to leave NZ the virtue gatherers in policy wouldn’t let him go, NZ’s legal beagles wanted him to stay and kill here instead of going back home or to fight ISIS. Surely if you believe in human rights you would let the guy leave and not keep him in NZ to harm people, which he told everyone he was going to do.
Then there are all the rapists and sexual abusers and drug smugglers who are always allowed to stay in NZ after being caught as overseas nationals. It’s like a way to stay in NZ now. Tick box, I am a criminal who would suffer worse consequences in my home country, so you must give me NZ residency for being a criminal.
Not even mentioning all the criminals who get their convictions quashed because they are applying for NZ residency and so therefore have their crimes discharged without conviction and get special favours from our legal system helping them keep their crimes quiet so they can become a Kiwi easily.
Is Coster a closet Headhunter?
In my opinion the 501 debacle has broader implications.
Almost anyone ‘these days’ can tell you that the best way to knock gangsters off their pins is to decriminalise drugs used recreationally. All of them. If there was a ready supply of high grade Meth etc everywhere whenever your brain needs to take a king hit then there it is. In every town and city from one end of the country to the other and freely available. That’d lead to the end of organised crime in relation to illegal drug use but what to do with all those lovely addicts? Well, try treating them with sober dignity because what they represent is a medical emergency, not a criminal justice law break aka excellent expansion opportunities for the criminally motivated.
Watch and learn from Portugal not the massive, societally dysfunctional lunatic asylum that’s the U$A.
The other element of the mutant American AKA Australian agenda is that by allowing hoards of psychotic criminals with a history of drug manufacture and distribution into our AO/NZ is that once they’re here, they become an excuse for the surely to emerge draconian policing of them which will extend into the broader AO/NZ society so that when we AO/NZ’ers protest about something, i.e. our disempowerment to acquiesce the a foreign super power that’s also the bully of the planet as the world melts where it floats as the oceans die.
The U$A military industrial complex moves in strange and dark ways so you can guarantee the USA-MIC will be forward planning for the day they will take our AO/NZ off us.
We need an arm of the Special Forces to deal with these guys, they need to be treated the same way they treat their victims, handling them with kid gloves like we are doing, does nothing to solve the problem. We have bent over backwards to accommodate these 501’s however they are just spitting in our faces IMHO ? Once a criminal always a criminal, a leopard does not change it’s spots.
Gangs have been around for decades. I can remember in 1970 going with my cuzzies and other Maori and Pacifica to Cathedral square to confront the epitaph riders who were looking for a couple of pakeha who were with us. Of course i observed activities froma distance as a few altercations took place. The cops arrived and the gangs drove off on their bikes and we caught the buses home. Also in Hamilton in the 1970’s – 80’s garden place was always occupied by patched gang members causing problems. Gangs are more sophisticated now. The grumpy old men dont like being lead by woman but want some dinosaur fron the 1980’s, like Mitchell.
Coster is a winner and he will sort the gangs out.
but back then bikies were drunken hooligans who maybe delt a bit of weed and acid, now they’re sophisticated multi million dollar businesses that flood NZ with meth etc and have the power and money to buy and subvert officials…
so just like everything else gangs have gone from being local businesses to corporate giants..they need to be delt with as such..locking up prospects is nowt…lock up the heads then you might get somewhere but take note we have the lawyers and the best justice drug money can buy in NZ.