A High Court challenge questioning the legality of Covid-19 vaccination mandates for Police and Defence Force employees has been upheld, with the court determining that the government mandate is an unjustified incursion on the Bill of Rights.
The Dumb Lives Matter Protestors & the never vaxxers think this is an enormous moral, political and legal win for them when in reality it’s proof positive the system is actually working.
As a post-marxist anarchist environmental socialist I detest the State up in my grills as much as the next free individual, but I agree with this curtailing of my civil liberties for the public good.
That extraordinary power over us by the State in the middle of pandemic MUST be challenged every day of the week, and when that mandate is too onerous, the legal side swings into action and pushes back on State power.
This is great news for all of us, it’s the moment when the law says that the State’s caution no longer trumps the individual’s rights.
It doesn’t mean that the mandates weren’t legal or necessary in the past, it just means that Omicron is such a weaker variant than the previous variants that it no longer warrants the emergency level powers over us as individuals.
That’s evidence of our system working!
Good. There was always a point when the mandates would come down, so their removal isn’t a loss for the Government.
Critics seem to believe that Labour want to keep the mandates for nefarious reasons which is bullshit. The Government desperately needs the economy to get back on track and will drop the mandates as soon as they can.
This High Court win is a win for everyone.
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The mandates were justifiable when applied to border workers and when the government was pursuing the elimination strategy. From the day the eliminations strategy was abandoned and Covid became endemic their relevance to public health has been negligible. Their only effect was to divide New Zealanders and set them quarreling amongst themselves on the false presumption that the non-vaccinated were the threat to the rest of us, rather than Covid itself.
Jacinda could take note of the court ruling, see sense and bring a swift end to nation-wide protests. But it probably suits her to have that distraction present just in case the Omicron outbreak gets messy and the hospital system fails to cope under the pressure.
Its an illusion. Let the tyrants run wild and then reign them in when over 90% of what they wanted is achieved. But reign them in we surely have – look everybody – the system is still working. We’ve reigned them in. Yeah right.
Unlike you, Martyn, I believe in government, but this government, like most Western governments, now days, is corrupt to the core. The WEF are having a field day.
Soooo why haven’t they removed mandates for everyone already?
They haven’t been justified for some time, it’s just that then, anyone saying so was an evil death capitalist.
Never mind we were told vax mandates were only to get us to 90% double vaxed, then they kept them anyway, and now talk of restrictions for flu season.
It shouldn’t have to take a legal case to get a government to do what is right.
Imagine every citizen only doing the right things if they were taken to court :The courts are there to enforce a legal bottom line, if you are crossing that line you’ve missed a bunch of chances to act appropriately.
Yeah, ok. And the mandates persist, people are still losing their jobs, kids are still unable to play club sport, families are still broken. This was always about coercion and compliance over science. The ‘vaccines’ have been a complete failure and are now being shown to affect DNA and compromise your immune system. You know, the things conspiracy theorists have been banging on about for ages. What could go wrong with rushed experimental treatments made by organisations with criminal pasts (or presents)?
Is it ok now that an antivax nurse can get infected with the delta variant go to work and infect my sick granny?
Joseph, is it ok that a triple vaxxed nurse can get infected with delta and go to work and infect my granny?
I thought that Health and Safety, a National emergency like a Pandemic or in a state of war would trump/over-ride bill of rights.
Nikorima, that sounds like wishful thinking to me. Enjoy trampling on people’s rights?
OW you have NO inalieable ‘RIGHT’ to spread disease to the vulnerable..
your triple vaxxed nurse scenario is way way way more unlikely than a unvaxxed ‘camp pestilence’ idiot turning up at wellie hospital and by their sheer selfishness causing an outbreak there..where are those patients freedumbs?
Wrong Gagarin, it’s the vaxxed spreading this. Latest outbreak in victory university. All vaxxed, allowed in the hospitals, the pubs, the restaurants, the hairdressers. All free to infect granny. Where are those patients freedumbs? They’re vaxxed you muppet. I don’t go to sleep at night for you to have a good nights rest.
Meanwhile the ” stealth variant ” is the next mutation and is making an appearance in the U.K and is highly transmissible and can cause severe disease. BA.2 is related to Omnicom but spreads faster.
The stealth variant is described as a ‘cousin’ of Omicron and designated BA.2. It’s called stealth because it “has certain genetic traits that make it more difficult to identify as Omicron on diagnostic tests—specifically polymerase chain-reaction (PCR) tests”. However, that does not mean that results of a positive coronavirus test or the care needed will change.
waaa the fear!
Fortunately there is science that shows that BA.1 is so similar that if you’ve had BA.1 your body will fight BA.2 off almost without you knowing.
And BA.2 is more transmissable but still an upper respiratory disease so you’re way less likely to end up in hospital or ICU.
But waaaaa PEDAL THE FEAR!!!
All you had to do was reply without the stupid ” pedalling the fear nonsense ” and you wouldn’t have demeaned yourself but there is one in every classroom and I guess that’s you.
Another fancy hugely salaried fellow wearing a tie and a curtain is telling me this and telling me that and yet I still feel no satisfaction. ( https://youtu.be/KzYWTIHqutA)
The corrupt neoliberal-capitalists who hijacked our democratic system that’s got its boot on the back of our necks has been given a huge fright by an unruly mob of dissenters with zero respect for lawn grass.
Those guys, with their tats, their foul language, crude placards and their kids grabbed neoliberalism by the scruff of the neck and shook it until its false teeth fell out.
God help the proponents of neoliberalism when the day comes that the dissenters realise they’re being as manipulated as the rest of us as I write.
When you have massive financial resources, have the MSM in your pocket, have roots sunk deep within all aspects of our politics and the economy then surely the rest is merely entertainment over brandy and cigars… until the hoi polloi start fidgeting.
Aye Boys? You’re in there aren’t you? Inside Ag Action, worming around, doing what you do.
Martin – the ruling only applies to the Police and Military – it does not apply to the hundreds of workers who have or are about to lose their jobs in both retail and the service industry. Those mandates were made under HSWA and not a Government mandate. That is unfair and it seems from the legal opinion we have to date is the HSWA has more power than a Govt mandate.
I believe the Govt will appeal this ruling which is wrong they should do away with vaccine mandates altogether now given the spread of Omicron in the community – what purpose are they now other than punitive and giving the wanking protesters in Wellington oxygen to their bullshit protest.
Martin – the ruling only applies to the Police and Military – it does not apply to the hundreds of workers who have or are about to lose their jobs in both retail and the service industry. Those mandates were made under HSWA and not a Government mandate. That is unfair and it seems from the legal opinion we have to date is the HSWA has more power than a Govt mandate.
I believe the Govt will appeal this ruling which is wrong they should do away with vaccine mandates altogether now given the spread of Omicron in the community – what purpose are they now other than punitive and giving the wanking protesters in Wellington oxygen to their bullshit protest.
So our protectors the NZ Police and our military will now potentially be spreaders not protectors, spreaders