Jacinda-Handley vs Key-Fletcher

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The manner in which the NZ mainstream media have attempted to whip the Jacinda-Handley interaction into a ‘jobs for the boys’ style scandal is embarrassing when you compare it to the previous relationship of Key and his appointment of his school mate Ian Fletcher to the GCSB.

I agree that the appointment and then refusal of Handley has been a cluster fuck. Eager MPs like Curran and the PM who wanted a person of Handley’s talent helping the Government out is about as bad as this actually gets, yes Curran and Jacinda were eager and friendly, and in that haste they didn’t dot i’s and cross t’s, but that and the emails between Jacinda and Handley.

Here’s the time line of Jacinda and Handley:

April 23 – August 20th – Handley sends Jacinda 2 text messages and an email about the CTO role.  

Hardly Watergate is it? Now here is the timeline of Key appointing his school mate to head the GCSB while he was ramming through mass surveillance laws and setting up Kim Dotcom for the NSA:

March 8th 2011 – Jerry Mateparae is stepped down as head of the GCSB.
March 15th 2011 – Top NSA spook, James Clapper, flies to NZ to meet with Key to discuss ‘synchronicity’ between the NSA and GCSB.
March 22nd 2011 – High level intelligence meetings
May 2011 – McCully visits Washington
June 17th 2011 – Key meets with Ian Fletcher for breakfast at Stamford Plaza.
July 22nd 2011 – Key is invited to Washington as pay back for this new ‘synchronicity’.
July 26th 2011 – Key side steps normal protocols and appoints his old school friend Ian Fletcher to take over at the GCSB.
October 2011 – John Key, the head of the SIS and NZDF join Ian Fletcher, the MFAT Head, and the DPMC boss for a secret dinner at the British High Commissioner’s home
December 8th 2011 – A letter states that Key is going to meet Ian Fletcher on 12th December
December 12th 2011 – Key meets with Ian Fletcher.
December 14th 2011 – The Police boss responsible for spying on Dotcom meets John Key with other intelligence agencies present.
December 16th 2011 – Kim Dotcom starts to be illegally spied upon.
January 2012 – Raid on Kim Dotcom.

…I can’t take ‘jobs for the boys’ criticism of Jacinda seriously when Key broke every protocol to get his mate to head the spy agency at a time when he was gerrymandering Dotcom and mass surveillance legalisation.

If only the NZ media had spent as much effort on exposing Key’s scandal as they have on Jacinda’s ‘scandal’.

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11 COMMENTS

  1. Yes martyn;

    It’s a bit like the new war going on in Washington today, as a third accuser of Kavanaugh comes forward today from the third rate lawyer for Democratic party “Michael Avenatti” (a known liar) as another ‘she said he said 38yr old story.’

    So now i smell a rat!!!! – as soon as we saw that “George Soros” is spending massive amounts of “ill gotten funds” ($250 million dollars) to kill the Kavanaugh nomination so now I am suspicious as he (Kavanaugh) seems to be far to honest for being a liar as all the others we know are, – so far.

    But it seems now that the Democratic party was being assisted by a large Billionaire
    (George Soros) him hating Trump and now by him donating $250 Million Dollars to several lobby groups setup now to destroy the Kavanagh family, so all is skewed now in pure politics so it seems that truth will be the first casualty of this new US internal war. Soros was convicted as a criminal under Obama’s government a few years ago incidentally. (George Soros) payback perhaps?

    George Soros was another insider trader as John Key was so we don’t care for his morals either thanks.

    https://listverse.com/2016/10/21/10-dark-secrets-of-george-soros/

  2. Its desperation, the dems are about to be exposed for election interference in 2016 and this circus is supposed to keep eyes off the fisil warrant info release and FBI txts.
    Question- If HRC gets arrested, do we get our 5 mill back?

  3. The reason its Meh is everyone knows now they are all corrupt, so no surprises anymore.
    And they will keep being corrupt till the system that chooses them is reformed, im talking about the system of partys picking there candidates internally, id suggest primary elections to choose a Poole of candidates, before a general election to pick MPs, we need a Deceleration of Independence and a Constitution as well.
    When the Queen dies we should become a Republic!

  4. There is a clear distinction to be made here:

    Keys appointment of the head of the GCSB is perfectly in line with protocol: It’s the PMs job to make that appointment.

    But Curran’s attempt to appoint Handley is way out of line. This was a civil service job that was advertised as being open to all applicants.

    Meanwhile Jacinda and Claire were having back-channel email conversations with their unofficial preferred candidate in parallel to the official civil service selection process.

    It stinks to high heaven and is perfectly in line with Curran’s previous behaviour: Behaviour that got her fired. That Arden has gotten herself mired in this tells us a lot about her ineptitude. If she’s shown to have lied to parliament, then National will have taken a huge scalp.

    To rub salt into the wound, Handley is perfectly within his rights to sue Arden and Curran, because this resulted in a breach of employment contract.

    • Bullshit Andrew.
      It is not inline with protocol at all.
      There is an expectation of transparency and consultation with the appointment of the head of the GCSB. Cabinet guidelines.
      Key did not comply at all.
      Fletcher was shoulder tapped by Key and Key did not notify anyone in the cabinet let alone the public of NZ.
      Compare if you please with the appointment of Kitteridge.
      Your blinkered ,narrow uninformed approach to NZ politics is pathetic Andrew you need a new interest. It’s springtime maybe you should take up gardening and develop a relationship with reality.

  5. For your erudition @ Andrew
    The proces Key DID NOT follow when appointing Fletcher!

    Appointment of chief executives

    (1)

    Subject to sections 36, 37, and 44, each chief executive shall be appointed by the Commissioner in accordance with the provisions of this section.

    (2)

    Where there is a vacancy or an impending vacancy in the position of chief executive of a department or departmental agency, the Commissioner shall—
    (a)

    inform the Minister of that vacancy or impending vacancy; and
    (b)

    invite the Minister to inform the Commissioner of any matters that the Minister wishes the Commissioner to take into account in making an appointment to the position.

    (3)

    The Commissioner shall notify the vacancy or impending vacancy in such manner as the Commissioner thinks sufficient to enable suitably qualified persons to apply for the position.

    (4)

    A panel comprising—
    (a)

    the Commissioner or Deputy Commissioner as chairperson; and
    (b)

    the Deputy Commissioner or an employee of the Commissioner; and
    (c)

    1 or more persons to be appointed by the Commissioner after consultation with the appropriate Minister or appropriate Ministers,—

    shall be established in respect of each vacancy.

    (4AA)

    In relation to a vacancy or an impending vacancy in the position of chief executive of a departmental agency, the panel established under subsection (4) must also include the chief executive of the host department.

    (4A)

    The panel may—
    (a)

    examine applicants for the position; and
    (b)

    seek advice from such other sources as the panel considers relevant; and
    (c)

    deliberate on the person to be recommended for appointment.

    (4B)

    Following the deliberations of the panel, the chairperson shall decide upon the person to be recommended to the Minister for appointment.

    (5)

    The chairperson may invite such other persons as the chairperson thinks fit to assist in deciding upon the person to be recommended for appointment, and any person so invited may take part in the examination of applicants or in the panel’s deliberations on the matter or in both.

    (6)

    The chairperson shall forward to the Minister the name of the person decided upon under subsection (4B) as the person recommended for appointment to the position, together with full particulars of that person’s qualifications.

    (7)

    The Minister shall refer the chairperson’s recommendations to the Governor-General in Council.

    (8)

    The Governor-General in Council shall decide whether the chairperson’s recommendation is to be accepted or declined.

    (9)

    The Minister shall inform the chairperson whether the chairperson’s recommendation has been accepted or declined by the Governor-General in Council.

    (10)

    Where the chairperson’s recommendation is accepted, the chairperson shall—
    (a)

    appoint the person recommended; and
    (b)

    announce publicly that the appointment has been made.

    (11)

    Where the chairperson’s recommendation is declined, the following provisions shall apply:
    (a)

    the Governor-General in Council may direct the chairperson to appoint a named person to the position:
    (b)

    the Governor-General in Council shall not be required to comply with the preceding subsections of this section:
    (c)

    notice of the making of an appointment pursuant to a direction under paragraph (a) shall be published in the Gazette as soon as practicable.

    (12)
    [Repealed]

    Section 35(1): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(1) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(1): amended, on 19 December 1989, pursuant to section 33(1) of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(2): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(2) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(2): amended, on 19 December 1989, pursuant to section 33(1) of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(2)(b): amended, on 19 December 1989, pursuant to section 33(1) of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(3): amended, on 19 December 1989, pursuant to section 33(1) of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(4): substituted, on 19 December 1989, by section 5 of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(4)(a): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(3) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(4)(b): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(4) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(4AA): inserted, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(5) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(4A): inserted, on 19 December 1989, by section 5 of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(4A): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(6) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(4B): inserted, on 19 December 1989, by section 5 of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(4B): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(7) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(5): substituted, on 19 December 1989, by section 5 of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(5): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(7) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(5): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(8) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(6): substituted, on 19 December 1989, by section 5 of the State Sector Amendment Act (No 2) 1989 (1989 No 136).

    Section 35(6): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(8) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(7): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(9) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(8): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(9) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(9): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(7) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(9): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(9) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(10): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(7) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(10): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(9) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(11): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(9) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(11)(a): amended, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(7) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

    Section 35(12): repealed, on 18 July 2013, by section 30(10) of the State Sector Amendment Act 2013 (2013 No 49).

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