List of things people believe who are calling for a National-Green Government

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The frenzied delusion being coughed up by the corporate mainstream media and their puppets demanding that the Greens work with National would be funny if it weren’t so desperate.

The Greens are not blue

The frenzied delusion being coughed up by the corporate mainstream media and their puppets demanding that the Greens work with National would be funny if it weren’t so desperate.

National’s economic policy is based on mass immigration to prop up a speculative property bubble while turning every square inch of the country into a dairy farm.

Forget that National are only a few degrees from being full blown climate deniers, their economic enrichment of corporate farmers and total capitulation to Chinese business interests, there is just no way a Green members would ever support a Green-National Government.

I have more chance of becoming the leader of ACT than National and Greens forming a Government.

What is most amusing however is the list of things people believe who are calling for a National-Green Government.

Looking at the torrid social media profiles of these advocates, it seems that National-Green supporters also believe the following…

  • There is no housing crisis
  • There is no ‘real’ poverty in New Zealand
  • Parents are to blame for hungry children
  • Climate is always ‘changing’
  • Any criticism of China’s influence over National is xenophobic racism
  • Prisoners and benneficiraies deserve less rights
  • Homelessness is  personal failing

…people arguing for a National-Green Government live in a world utterly incompatible with not only the kaupapa of the Greens, but most basic ethics and standard facts.

The only scenario where the Greens join the National Party is if Hitler resurrects from the grave with a legion of Nazi zombies and declares an ecological war against the Amazon rain forest.

Sorry Matthew Hooton, That’s the only scenario.

 

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34 Comments

  1. Sam Sam says:

    Might be slowly dawning that Nationals majority ain’t that huge and that Bill That English has to woe NZ1st and the Greens after years of low key dismissals. I’d like to see the right contort some more.

  2. Michelle says:

    Desperate people do desperate things Martyn.

    • Observer Tokoroa says:

      The Media Unfortunates

      Our PM – Billy the Liar is a Looser. He needs a crutch to hobble along with his hodge podge of bribes and gifts for the Wealthy and for the pollution people – his Farmers and their slave employees.

      As a Looser he is hoping he can con the Greens into his hopeless “lets completely destroy New Zealand” vortex.

      The media love Billy the Liar’s bribes. They are hopeless addicts. Even the country wide shit ridden cow farms are more healthy than than the drivel that slips from NZ Media mouths.

      Winstone Peters is also a forlorn Looser. he wants to be Prime Minister. He has been in Parliament for ever. But he doesn’t have the guts to tell Billy the Liar – that he will only go with National if he is made PM.

      If he became PM he could carry out the policies as promised by NZ First, The Greens and Labour.

      He could completely redefine and remove our current Media too.

  3. Mike the Lefty says:

    The bottom line question is this:
    What would the Greens achieve going into a coalition with a party where a significant number of members believe that climate change is a socialist trick, and nearly all the rest only pretend they believe in it?

  4. Wensleydale says:

    I think the phrase we’re looking for is “clutching at straws”. They simply cannot abide the notion that the peasants have had enough of them, and it’s time to let the dirty socialists have a go. The very thought makes them throw up in their mouths, and they’ll advocate any delusional nonsense just so long as they’re allowed to keep their baubles and sit on the right side of the chamber.

    Not that anyone here needed it, but this is perhaps the best and most shameless demonstration of the National Party’s flexible ethics in action. Hypocrisy? Fine. Contradicting ourselves? Fine. Sucking up to people we were relentlessly bagging two weeks ago? Fine. After years of watching National pour scorn and derision upon the Greens, the only thing James Shaw needs to give Bill English is the middle finger.

  5. CLEANGREEN says:

    National want to destroy Greens and need to control them firstly by ordering them to comply with a coalitionn as they did to Maori Party/Act/United future.

    If the Greens are persuaded they will suffer their demise.

    Best option is to remove this highly toxic National Government by a labour lead Greens/NZF coalition.

  6. CLEANGREEN says:

    National want to destroy Greens and need to control them firstly by ordering them to comply with a coalitionn as they did to Maori Party/Act/United future.

    If the Greens are persuaded they will suffer their demise.

    Best option is to remove this highly toxic National Government by a labour lead Greens/NZF coalition.

    • srylands says:

      The Government is not “toxic”.

      Those advocating a National Green government simply want the best for the country given the available choices. The alternative is that the Greens are impotent. Why would they want that?

      If the Greens are in opposition for another 9 years, it will be unfortunate for the country and the environment. I wonder whether there is a communist faction within the party that cares more about undermining markets, than about protecting the environment.

      • woodpecker says:

        So lets see if I understand you correctly. If the Nats get back in and the country literately goes to shit, it will all be the Greens fault? And while we are at it, how come absolutly zero mention from you rightys about the Green social policy?

      • Sally's Husband says:

        So Srylands, what is stopping the Nats from implementing Green Party policies WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A COALITION??

        If Green policies are “best for the country”, the Nats can implement them regardless.

        No, the Nats want a coalition not for Green policies but to remain in power. Bloody obvious, really.

      • AB says:

        “I wonder whether there is a communist faction within the party that cares more about undermining markets, than about protecting the environment”
        McCarthy Srylands calls the Greens communists. That’ll really help in your coalition building efforts Srylands!
        Basically Srylands hates the Greens for surviving the mugging of Turei – driving them below 5% would have resulted in enough wasted vote to just give a majority to Nat/Act. So now he’s trying to force them into coalition with their complete ideological antithesis. Hilarious.

      • John W says:

        Srylands
        It is 2017.
        This is New Zealand or what is left of it after the freemarket has wrecked havoc.

        Socialism here has been the prerogative of the rich and Trans National Corps including banks.

        Communism – where is it, apart from being a term of intended abuse.

        Unless Kiwis having commons is objectionable. Most of the commons have been privatised or sold off.

  7. Michelle says:

    The people that are calling for the Greens to make an agreement/coalition with the gnats can get f…d these selfish bastards are trying to say they care about our country when in fact they only care about themselves.

  8. Samwise says:

    No way will the Greens go withNational. The fate of the Maori Party points to where that road leads.

    If the Nats want a green pedigree, they can create one themselves. Where are their own much- vaunted BlueGreens???

  9. Nitrium Nitrium says:

    Honestly, there is a bigger chance of a Labour-National coalition (i.e. a “Purple” government) than National-Greens. I find it kinda weird NO-ONE from the MSM or politicians are suggesting/advocating that option (is there any real reason why not?) and instead are focusing on a far less likely scenario. It’s a striking failure of imagination.

  10. Marc says:

    If it was all so simple. While the Greens do at least try, or pretend to try, to bring needed environmental and social change, the Nats are of course total hypocrites.

    But even the Greens are not quite up to it, and not honest enough about the huge challenges we face.

    For instance, many questions remain unresolved, re the electric cars that are now aggressively promoted and marketed.

    Here is a very useful, insightful discussion thread, read the comments, they are more insightful and useful than the video presented:

    https://sciblogs.co.nz/hot-topic/2017/09/17/cheaper-solar-power-electric-vehicles-going-change-world-next-5-years/

    We are fooling ourselves, if we think, we can more or less carry on as usual.

    How often would a car need to be refitted with new batteries, for instance, and what would that cost?

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/vehicles/electric-car-battery4.htm

    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/4802/how-long-do-electric-car-batteries-really-last

    But this should not deter us from opposing the Nats, and to push others to move even further and smarter ahead into the right direction.

  11. e-clectic says:

    Bill is under way more pressure than Jacinda.
    Jacinda has already surpassed expectations – she can sit this one out and still hold her head high.
    Not so for Bill. He has to make it work somehow. Two-time loser is hanging over his head.
    Painting the Greens as obstinate and non-negotiable works for transNational in talks with NZF.
    “Hiya Winnie, you’re not unreasonable like those Greens losers. Whaddya want?”
    And to quote Groucho Marx (the real one), the transNational position, “These are our principles, and if you don’t like those we have others.”

  12. Zack Brando says:

    yo’ll yo’ll – you forgot to add cannabis reform to that list, not that I trust the Greens to deliver.

  13. WILD KATIPO says:

    I’m a little bit country , I’m a little bit,… actually ,… I think I’m turning a little bit more Green than I realized!

    But still a little bit NZ First and a little bit Labour…

    As for National / ACT ?

    Screw them .

    And hands of the Greens ! I wont have your dirt polluting the Greens , thank you very much ! I voted for them , and you far right neo liberal scumbags can go jump in the lake, – and get covered in your own shit.

    And here’s a tune from Donny and Marie ! L0L !

    Donny & Marie Osmond – “A Little Bit Country, A Little Bit Rock N Roll …
    Video for im a little bit country▶ 3:50
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZCWGyk388

    • Shirley Knuckey says:

      How could Nat possibly harmonize with Greens when they gathered in 100s in Morrinsville to slag off Jacinda – her a home-town girl and all. Farrar and Hooten are the show-runners here are they not?

  14. Afewknowthetruth says:

    We are seeing the last few days of declining seasonal atmospheric CO2 which is due to Northern Hemisphere photosynthesis

    https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_two_years.png

    and will soon be into the next phase of rapidly rising atmospheric CO2 that will result in a new highest-ever value, almost certainly around 415 ppm in May 2018.

    National party policy: build more roads and build bigger roads, and encourage even greater fossil fuel consumption. Hopefully the ‘treason’ trials will commence soon.

  15. Observer Tokoroa says:

    I feel sorry for the Wealthy

    There is Billy the Liar – a proven Looser – offering the big earners lots and lots of unearned money and he is wanting the Greens to agree to it.

    While the poor get tuppence – ha ha haaaaa. Billy has always been a man for the greedy, never the needy.

    I don’t think the Greens will want to sit on the same chairs as National and Billy the Liar. Do you ?

  16. Kim dandy says:

    Tell them their dreaming.

  17. mosa says:

    What a joke all this is.

    The Greens have been subject to ridicule and been chastised and humiliated by the National party and its supporters when it has suited their political agenda.

    Instilling fear into the electorate about the damage that would be done to the country if the Greens were ever to be in government and god forbid be let anywhere near the country’s finances.

    But political expediency is what this is all about and in order for the National party to continue to rule it will do anything that would have been unthinkable just a few weeks ago to maintain its authority even if that means asking the Greens to sup with the devil for its and its donors own ends.

    These people don’t care a jot about the Greens policies and would never sanction their implementation because it will hurt the very foundations of the money making machine they all profit from.

    Strange that no one advocates the ACT party should join with Labour to ensure its coalition chances should they be in a position to form a government and need to get a majority.

    But that is exactly what the Greens ( with more numbers ) are being asked to contemplate doing to keep the National party in power and Winston out.

  18. Observer Tokoroa says:

    Billy and Paula – embarrass me

    The Prime Minister and his little follower the Deputy Prime Minister make me cringe. I wish they wouldn’t.

    It is one thing to tell lies all during an election campaign. We are used to that from National.

    But to see Billy and Paula handing out money like a couple of prostitution pimps to the Wealthy – wherever the TV Cameras are, is utterly gutterish.

    It is bribery and corruption. And they both know it. Free money like a free fuck for the very wealthy.

    Onya Billy and Paula. You really are low life.

    • Red Buzzard says:

      +100 OBSERVER TOKOROA…it is cringe-worthy and it must be making their own members and supporters cringe with embarrassment at their desperation and hypocrisy…it is only this that makes me smile

      ….as Catherine Delahaunty said “not a snoballs chance in hell!”…and she would “rather drink hemlock”

  19. Red Buzzard says:

    +100 Great Post!