Only Anger: Thoughts on Anzac Day 2016

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IF YOU WERE ASKED”: What emotion is appropriate for Anzac Day? How would you answer? Sadness? Horror? Gratitude? Pride? My answer has always been, and continues to be, anger. Bitter, searing, righteous anger at the waste of so many young lives, and at the lies told to justify a crime so colossal that it simply overpowered the imaginations of those who lived through it and after it.

For more than a hundred years those lies have transformed the terrible losses of the First World War into a perverse source of pride and gratitude. Not only have they kept the truth about the war’s origins and objectives hidden, but they have also made it practically impossible to challenge the official version of events. This is no small achievement when the consequences of those events are still shaping our lives.

At the heart of the darkness that sent millions of young men to their deaths was Great Britain’s determination to destroy the thriving German economy and seize the strategic resources of the decrepit Ottoman Empire.

Unchecked, the German economy would have dominated the whole of Europe by the second or third decade of the twentieth century (much as it dominates the EU today). Even more worryingly, the German Empire’s increasingly close economic, diplomatic and military relationship with the Ottoman Empire would have ensured its privileged access to the strategic super-fuel of the twentieth century – oil. From the early years of the century, therefore, the reduction of Germany became the idée fixe of British foreign-policy.

Great Britain’s natural ally in this policy was France. Decisively defeated by the Germans in 1871, France was acutely aware that its influence in Europe was steadily being eroded by Germany’s dramatic economic growth. It’s only hope of remaining a major player in world affairs was, therefore, to strike its neighbour a crushing blow.

France’s key strategic problem, however, was that it could not deliver such a blow on its own – it needed allies. The first of these, the Russian Empire, was made available by the German Emperor, Wilhelm II’s, failure to renew his country’s crucial Reinsurance Treaty with Russia. The French were only too happy to fill the diplomatic vacuum created by the German Emperor’s strategic blunder.

This new Franco-Russian “understanding” suited British interests extremely well. Not only was Germany now faced with a war on two fronts, but, by drawing the Russians towards Europe, the French were relieving Russian pressure on the borders of the “jewel” in Britain’s imperial crown – India.

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All that Britain required to unleash a devastating conflict upon its most dangerous economic rival was a plausible pretext for joining in. This it acquired by allowing the French and the Russians a free hand in the Balkans.

Europe’s flashpoint, the Balkans were the point of intersection of multiple imperial interests: Austro-Hungarian; Russian; Ottoman; and Serbian. Any move by the Austro-Hungarian Empire against its ultra-nationalist neighbour, Serbia, was bound to draw in the latter’s Russian protectors. A Russian thrust against Germany’s ally, Austria-Hungary, would, likewise, draw Germany into the conflict. German involvement would activate the Franco-Russian alliance – immediately plunging Germany into a strategically perilous two-front war.

Britain knew that if Germany was to avoid being caught between the French hammer and the Russian anvil, it would have to deliver a knockout blow to the French before the full weight of Russia’s vast army could be brought to bear on its eastern front. The only effective means of delivering such a blow was to direct Germany’s army through neutral Belgium and come at Paris from the north-west.

In other words, to enter the war with “clean hands”, Britain had only to give France its head in the Balkans. It was pretty sure that the French, with Russian connivance, would find a way to set Austria-Hungary at Serbia’s throat – thereby initiating a general European war. The assassination of the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne in the little Bosnian town of Sarajevo on 28 June 1914 by Serbian terrorists proved to be an admirably serviceable trigger.

Once the Germans detected the preparations for a Russian mobilisation against not only their Austro-Hungarian ally, but also themselves, the die was cast. Germany mobilised pre-emptively, her armies smashed their way through neutral Belgium, and Britain was supplied with the morally unassailable excuse for doing what she had been conspiring to do for the best part of a decade – unleashing war on Germany.

It was in pursuit of these blunt imperial objectives that more than 12,000 young New Zealanders were sent to their deaths. Not for democracy: our allies, the Russians, were governed by an absolute monarchy; and our enemies, the Germans, boasted a more inclusive franchise that Britain’s. And certainly not for freedom: imperialism and liberty do not mix. As for the “values” cited by contemporary apologists for the slaughter of 1914-18. I’d like to think that these: extreme racism, unthinking obedience to those in authority; and the extension of British power across the globe; would be rejected out of hand by the vast majority of modern New Zealanders.

As I note in No Left Turn:

“A patriotic painting from the depths of the war says it all. Entitled ‘The Casualty List’, it depicts a grief-stricken mother, her head bowed before the framed photograph of her soldier son on the mantelpiece, a copy of The New Zealand Herald dangling limply from her hand. In the top left-hand corner of the painting we see the moment of his death – the young hero’s body reeling backwards as his comrades press on towards the foe. It is a sombre work, and skilfully rendered, but it does not tell the truth about the war. Captured instead is the sense of loss; the awful ache that clawed at the hearts of practically every New Zealand family in the aftermath of the carnage. That much – but no more – was all the nation was permitted to feel. Questions about what it had all been for were met with the palliative care of capitalised nouns: Justice, Honour, Liberty, Country, Democracy. The unbearable reality – that they had died to preserve the prosperity of those who stayed behind – had to be, and was, suppressed.”

It still is being suppressed. And if none of the arguments advanced above are sufficient to rouse your indignation, then the ongoing and deliberate suppression of the truth about the origins and objectives of the First World War should make you very angry indeed.

36 COMMENTS

  1. Chris Trotter’s contribution to ANZAC Day sounds a bit like a Game of Thrones version of events in WW1, all scheming and strategy from the very beginning.

    But it was rather an escalation of conflict that resulted from the murder of Austria-Hungary’s Crown Prince by a Serbian nationalist, and then dragged one ally in one after the other.

    We have similarly complex alliances today, just look at the conflict in the Middle East, where Turkey is a long time member of NATO, and where the Syrian government regime a long time ally of Russia ruled by President Putin.

    Add the other alliances, between the Saudis and Turkey, Israel and the US, Iran and Hezbollah base in Lebanon, but also fighting in Syria, and then the many other forces, it is a pure miracle this has not yet escalated into a wider global conflict, dragging in the Russians more than they were (so far), or Turkey and with that NATO.

    It must be the fear of falling into the hands of ISIS, of having soldiers get their heads chopped off, and this publicly on YouTube, that have kept the many allies from giving in to pressures and join in.

    There are many other alliances, look at Korea and Japan being allied with the US, the Philippines and even Vietnam getting closer to the US again, and China being suspicious and building their new fortresses on islands in the South China Sea. Any spark could lead to an explosion there one day, and a larger conflict would occur.

    Look at Ukraine, trying to join the EU and even NATO, and the tensions with Russia, look at how Russian fighter planes play close encounter provocative war strategies on the Baltic Sea with US and other NATO ships there.

    Then there is India, long time enemy of Pakistan, and both trying to get more arms and building new alliances with various nations in the west and the east.

    We are heading there again, another World War, it is perhaps just around the corner, let China’s economy collapse, and nationalistic fervour will arise, fueled by the Communist Party government, to stay in power, and then something may start again with Japan, and drag the US in.

    New Zealand is right between a rock and a hard place now, where John Key has led us, trying to be cosy with China to get more trade, and at the same time joining US military exercises near Korea.

    Australia is more open and will stay firmly aligned with the US, despite of economic dependence from China. Both nations will have to do some careful juggling, which I fear will not be able to continue forever. The Chinese same as the US will ask for their price and our loyalty, maybe that is why the ANZAC remembrance is kept up and given so much attention by Governor General, state and media?

    I expect World War 3 any time now, it is only a matter of when, not if.

      • It won’t be Syria, it would rather be the South China Sea issue, or North Korea provoking the US and Japan, forcing China to take action (re Korea reluctantly) or the ongoing tensions in Ukraine and some Central Asian states (former parts of the Russian dominated USSR) that may set off a major war.

        There is also growing strategic and economic interest in the Arctic, where new marine shipping channels open up due to global warming, and where minerals lure the interest of mining giants and nations, that is a future focal point for tensions, and Russia is already at loggerheads with Canada and the US about interests, also with Norway.

        I see no shortage of future conflict zones, in a world where economic growth seems to continue to be the mantra for all solutions, and that requires more exploitation of resources, which will become more scarce.

        Syria only plays a minor role when compared to that.

        • We have a fifth dimension of war to deal with- cyberspace. At the moment cyber space can block sanctions as what we saw when the White House backed down from releasing the full report of 9/11 upon Saudi pressure threatening to sell close to a trillion dollars in U.S treasury bonds. That one move would have caused more damage to the U.S economy than 400 nuclear weapons.

    • Hi Mike in Auckland.

      Yes, the World situation is incredibly dangerous right now. We have advancing rapid climate change, a vastly overpopulated World with resources depleting at exponential speed. And we have a belligerent super power determined on World hegemony:

      World War III Has Begun

      Paul Craig Roberts

      The Third World War is currently being fought. How long before it moves into its hot stage?

      Washington is currently conducting economic and propaganda warfare against four members of the five bloc group of countries known as BRICS—Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. Brazil and South Africa are being destabilized with fabricated political scandals. Both countries are rife with Washington-financed politicians and Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs). Washington concocts a scandal, sends its political agents into action demanding action against the government and its NGOs into the streets in protests.

      http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/25/world-war-iii-has-begun-paul-craig-roberts/

      “They Should Be Met By Force” – US General Warns Russia Future Fly-Bys “Won’t End Well For You”

      Russia should be warned that its dangerous flybys of U.S. ships and planes could be met by force, President Barack Obama’s nominee as the next NATO and U.S. European Command commander said Thursday.

      “Sir, I believe that should be known — yes,” Army Gen. Curtis M. “Mike” Scaparrotti said when asked by Sen. John McCain whether Russia should be told that the U.S. would take action if American lives were endangered.

      Pursuing the same line of questioning, Sen. Joe Donnelly, an Indiana Democrat, asked Scaparrotti whether the Russians should be told that “next time it doesn’t end well for you.”

      The general responded that “we should engage them and make clear what’s acceptable. Once we make that known, we have to enforce it.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-24/us-eucom-general-warns-future-russian-fly-bys-could-be-met-force

    • My four uncles all fought in WWI. Three died: one in Gallipoli, one in Egypt and one in Britain. I went to Gallipoli some years ago and discovered the grave of the youngest. He was 20. I wept at Ataturk’s words in stone but also at the waste of so many young men’s lives, all for the sake of power. War is never the answer, no matter what the question.

      Ataturk’s words:

      “Those heroes that shed their blood

      And lost their lives.

      You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country.

      Therefore, rest in peace.

      There is no difference between the Johnnies

      And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side

      Here in this country of ours,

      You, the mothers,

      Who sent their sons from far away countries

      Wipe away your tears,

      Your sons are now lying in our bosom

      And are in peace

      After having lost their lives on this land they have

      Become our sons as well”.

  2. Lions led by donkeys there’s no doubt.
    I was fortunate to be in Gallipoli 10 years ago and by chance ended up there on the day the Turks honoured their dead.
    They too suffered huge loses and have plenty to be aggrieved about.
    Their magnanimous gestures towards what were then the enemy reflect the sympathy they held for those brave young men .
    It was a sobering visit.

    • I understand the Turks lost approx 95,000 of their own, compared to the Allies maybe 10,000 to 15,000 ?

      What crime did the Turks commit to see so many of their young killed defending their own land from been taken over by an unwanted intruder !

    • Ataturk’s speech engraved in stone says it all. I wept when I read this at Gallipoli, not least because three out of my four uncles lost their lives in WWI…one in Gallipoli; one in Egypt and one in Britain. “Those heroes that shed their blood

      “Those heroes that shed their blood

      And lost their lives.

      You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country.

      Therefore, rest in peace.

      There is no difference between the Johnnies

      And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side

      Here in this country of ours,

      You, the mothers,

      Who sent their sons from far away countries

      Wipe away your tears,

      Your sons are now lying in our bosom

      And are in peace

      After having lost their lives on this land they have

      Become our sons as well”.

      • Actually, if there’s one thing about Anzac Day that tires me more than anything else, it’s our continued lionisation of Ataturk. The man had a hand in the deaths of millions of Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian civilians, and yet every Anzac Day we treat him like he was some wise and compassionate anti-imperialist hero, instead of a chief perpetrator of one of the worst crimes against humanity the world has ever seen. It’s disrespectful to the million-plus killed by Turkish ethnic cleansing during the First World War to treat him as anything more than a Turkish forerunner to Hitler.

        • Sorry if I offended you. Lionising Ataturk was not my intention at all, as I am well aware of what he did. His words, on this occasion, were poignant and pertinent.

  3. And their is much more. The war closed as profits were distributed and the situation was set up for the next war.

    The Great Leaders often worshipped, pursue a course of mass murder with their propaganda always blaming others.

    They hide the truth vigorously with good reason.

  4. Thank you Chris Trotter. I have stopped attending Anzac day parades, because I am sick of the ongoing narrative that you identify. My grandmother lost two brothers in that war; it is a loss that affected her family enormously and of course affected the upbringing of the next generation. If we want to stop being dragged into other people’s wars, we need to change the narrative about this one.

  5. And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E22gszljklc

    Now when I was a young man, I carried me pack, and I lived the free life of a rover
    From the Murray’s green basin to the dusty outback, well, I waltzed my Matilda all over.
    Then in 1915, my country said son, It’s time you stopped rambling, there’s work to be done.
    So they gave me a tin hat, and they gave me a gun, and they marched me away to the war.

    And the band played Waltzing Matilda, as the ship pulled away from the quay
    And amidst all the cheers, the flag-waving and tears, we sailed off for Gallipoli
    And how well I remember that terrible day, how our blood stained the sand and the water
    And of how in that hell that they called Suvla Bay, we were butchered like lambs at the slaughter.
    Johnny Turk he was waiting, he’d primed himself well. He shower’d us with bullets,
    And he rained us with shell. And in five minutes flat, he’d blown us all to hell
    Nearly blew us right back to Australia.

    But the band played Waltzing Matilda, when we stopped to bury our slain.
    We buried ours, and the Turks buried theirs, then we started all over again.
    And those that were left, well we tried to survive, in that mad world of blood, death and fire
    And for ten weary weeks, I kept myself alive, though around me the corpses piled higher
    Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head, and when I woke up in my hospital bed,
    And saw what it had done, well I wished I was dead. Never knew there was worse things than dyin’.

    For I’ll go no more waltzing Matilda, all around the green bush far and free
    To hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs-no more waltzing Matilda for me.

    So they gathered the crippled, the wounded, the maimed, and they shipped us back home to Australia.
    The legless, the armless, the blind, the insane, those proud wounded heroes of Suvla
    And as our ship pulled into Circular Quay, I looked at the place where me legs used to be.
    And thanked Christ there was nobody waiting for me, to grieve, to mourn, and to pity.

    But the band played Waltzing Matilda, as they carried us down the gangway.
    But nobody cheered, they just stood and stared, then they turned all their faces away
    And so now every April, I sit on me porch, and I watch the parades pass before me.
    And I see my old comrades, how proudly they march, reviving old dreams of past glories
    And the old men march slowly, old bones stiff and sore. They’re tired old heroes from a forgotten war
    And the young people ask, what are they marching for? And I ask myself the same question.

    _________________________________________________________

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJPFt88GYY

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  6. Chris… certainly an entertaining theory, however there is absolutely no evidence that Britain sought to start a European war to knock over the Weimar republic.

    Russia was the first country besides AH and Serbia to mobilize – and they knew what it could mean, how it would be interpreted in Berlin.

    It wasn’t a logical step to take but the world was largely an illogical place with empires in terminal decline – Russia could have supported Serbia in other ways, they could have demanded an international conference or similar. The fact that they called up the reserves tells us they were not being reasonable.

    From then it went all down the crapper, because from a German POV, Russian mobilization meant a serious threat. Despite this screw-up, Germany would probably have tried to distance itself from the war and AH would thus fight Serbia alone. Serbs were actually quite good at defending themselves from AH, so if Russia hadn’t mobilized prematurely, it could eventually have achieved its goals in the Balkans without starting a great war.

    Russia had to mobilise first because it took weeks for it to do so. The German General Staff decided to take the gamble and persuaded the Kaiser to attack quickly according to von Moltke’s plan (which called on attacking France first, by the way).

    Ultimately, the greatest blame still lies on Germany for the General Staff’s decision and the Blank Cheque. Austria Hungary wouldn’t have pressed Serbia on the unacceptable points of the ultimatum if it wasn’t assured of full German support against Russia in the event of a war with Serbia. The Blank Cheque was the last of the series of diplomatic blunders of Wilhelm II. Germany was a big country with an inferiority complex supporting an empire in hopeless decline.

    To suggest that all these other countries were somehow manipulated by Britain is suggesting they had Machiavellian brilliance that they just didn’t and still don’t possess.

  7. Yes. I also thank you also Chris. Anger indeed. I have seen and felt this simmering anger amongst successive generations of families I have worked and lived alongside. Grandfather 35061 Gnr R ##### left New Zealand in January 1917 and returned in July 1919. A clever and caring man, smart , self made and successful who died at the young age of seventy like so many who served in that disgusting milieu. Did he volunteer ? No I don’t think so. He was conscripted. Yes tonight I share your anger, I feel it and taste it as do many of our generation throughout this country, one still buying into the alliances and the fucking bullshit.

  8. In volume 1 of Churchill’s biography “The Last Lion” by William Manchester. I remember reading a quote from Churchill that the British Empire would have no problem ruling Turkey as a colonial possession, as the Empire had great experience ruling over millions of Moslems in India.

    The aims and ambitions of British Imperialism were behind the invasion of Gallipoli.

    As a footnote:

    Despite the current hype and myth surrounding the New Zealand flag, (officially known as an ensign), New Zealanders and Australians, as imperial troops both fought under the British Union Jack throughout the First World War. (And most of WW2 as well).

    The New Zealand Ensign was introduced during war game maneuvers by the British Empire Navy to distinguish between ships from different parts of the Empire. The first time New Zealanders ever fought under the New Zealand Ensign was at the Battle of the River Plate on the New Zealand manned warship Achilles.

    New Zealanders and Australians weren’t fighting for home and hearth in Gallipoli as depicted in the propaganda, they were fighting and dying for British Imperialism against its rivals and to take control of Turkey as a British possession.

  9. Well done Chris – thank you.
    If we rule and try to dominate through chaos ; greed and brain washing propaganda, then we reap what we sow.

    It is time to allow the rage and anger to surface and see that these wars were begun and perpetuated by those very hateful ; power hungry ; and greedy idiots ( and countries) with no moral compasses. The majority of the people do not want wars and most all of us now are seeing that most governments support these perpetual war scenarios. Most governments are no longer by and for the people but about making the big bucks ( arms sales and resource rapes ) etc. and to hell with everything else.
    Criminal corporations ; greedy bankers ; most politicians and most all lobbyists have a lot to answer for. The beginning and the brainchild for all of this was born out of The Tavistock Institute and the Nazi Jews working together to dominate the world and brainwash the masses.

    We do not recognize Anzac Day anymore for all the reasons that have been written about above. We do light a candle to remember all the vets, both alive and dead , who were fed lies and tried to do the best they could only to come home to countries that do not serve them nor honour them as they should.
    All these commemorative services are based mostly on lies and hypocrisy but if they make a vet feel good for a moment, than so be it. We do not wish to participate anymore and many feel the same way.

  10. Good article, Chris. Yes, so much hypocrisy and lies. The winners write their version of history and do their best to stamp out the truth.

    Don’t forget the Berlin to Baghdad railway, which was nearing completion in 1914 and would have led to direct German access to oil from Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) and a massive new market for German goods if it had not been stopped, hence the invasion of Basra by the British very early in the war.

    You might have also mentioned the disgraceful way retuned servicemen were treated by the NZ government, so disgraceful that the RSA was established to provide some assistance an comfort.

    Nearly 100 years later the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were orchestrated on the basis of a new set of lies….. weapons of mass destruction and all that. And despite all the evidence that concrete and steel buildings do not fall to the ground at free-fall speed in their own footprints as a consequence of short-lived low temperature fires, the NZ government sticks with the lies promulgated by the American empire, that ‘it was planes hijacked by amateurs that did it’. Hilarious if it was not yet another government-orchestrated crime, accompanied by a cover-up and mass propaganda.

  11. In my experience part of what makes these ceremonies so poignant is the continuing recognition of NZ’ers for the pointless deaths of so many NZ’ers of so long ago.

    The ceremonies I’ve attended make no attempt to glorify war and most people remark on why so many of our young men were sent away to fight a war in which their sacrifice made so little difference.

    I think there is a bit of anger there and there is a general recognition that the whole sorry debacle in Gallipoli must never be repeated. That is a good thing and if the sacrifice of those men and women in Gallipoloi mean we think long and hard about participating in significant wars again then Anzac day continues to serve a worthwhile purpose.

    Good article, Chris

  12. Thanks for providing an alternative scenario. While I don’t necessarily buy the version Chris presents, I most certainly agree that the version we’re spoon fed is patronising crap deeply ingrained by ritual and reverence.

    This version is particularly distressing for NZers and Australians as it posits the deliberate expenditure of our soldiers lives without the lame excuse of incompetence.

    An then there is this version from Robert Newman’s – A Brief History of Oil.

  13. In my experience part of what makes these ceremonies so poignant is the continuing recognition of NZ’ers for the pointless deaths of so many NZ’ers of so long ago.

    The ceremonies I’ve attended make no attempt to glorify war and most people remark on why so many of our young men were sent away to fight a war in which their sacrifice made so little difference.

    I think there is a bit of anger there and there is a general recognition that the whole sorry debacle in Gallipoli must never be repeated. That is a good thing and if the sacrifice of those men and women in Gallipoloi mean we think long and hard about participating in significant wars again then Anzac day continues to serve a worthwhile purpose.

    Good article, Chris

  14. Whilst walking yesterday the conversation turned to who fought and died, young men mainly. We concluded that the first echelon going to any future conflict should be conscripted. They should consist (by law) only people over 50 male and female who hold office and / or earn in the top ten percent. They should also foot the cost of their participation. We the people could then observe how keen our elites are to go to war.

  15. Funding of the destruction of the Royal houses of England and other European Royalty and replacement with their people

    Bauer / Rothchilds

    City of London bank buy up of shares due to false fabricated reports of Napoleons victory

    Rothchilds

    London Central Bank and usury system created

    Rothchilds

    Federal Reserve Bank Act passed 1913 of America and usury system implemented

    Rothchilds

    Creation, funding and installment of Bolshevik revolution with the deaths of over 9 million Russians 1917-1922. 20,000,000 under Stalin.

    Rothchilds

    Funded both sides of World War 1 – Balfour agreement to bring the USA into WW1 in return for the promise of the land of the Palestinians after the war .Gold bullion train passes through the western front to Russia unmolested to finance Bolshevik revolution.

    Rothchilds

    Funded both sides of World War 2.
    66 ,000,000 deaths at conservative estimates.

    Rothchilds

    Funded the creation of the state of Israel in 1948 / also provided the funding for the construction of the Knesset . Aggressive land grabs through Kibbutzes and mass ongoing human rights abuses since before 1948 until present.

    95 % of current Israeli nationals are of Khazarian ( Caucasus mountains,later West European) descent containing less than 4% ancient Semitic DNA. Whereas Palestinians are of 95% ancient Hebrew Semitic ( ancient Israeli ) DNA descent.

    Rothchilds

    Agenda 21

    FEMA camps and detention centres ( USA )

    Eugenics – fluoridation of potable water in the west leads to sterility , and many other health related conditions, sterilization programs in India , 1 child policy in China , fluoridation of salt in less developed country’s

    World Bank / IMF loans to create global debt and create austerity programs

    WHO immunity programs in sub Saharan Africa with HIV /AIDS virus contaminated products

    World reduction in current population of 7 billion to 500,000,000 . Enshrined in Georgia Guidstones ( USA ) – same policy Bilderbergers, Club of Rome, Bill Gates, Trent , Kissinger and many other billionaires and world leaders have recommended since the mid 1960’s.

    Reduction of welfare and medical availability to the elderly and the poor leading to natural eugenics ( death through lack of medical attention and malnutrition )

    Encouragement of laws that criminalize parents and weaken the family unit – 3 strikes policy in the USA ( 2 felony’s and it is a mandatory prison sentence), criminalizing mild corrective discipline using physical punishment – ie smacking

    Encouragement and funding of social movements that weaken the family unit whether it be sexual , substance abuse , societal confusion on gender roles etc

    Introduction of legislation that creates a working poor class ( ERA/ECA in NZ ) which weakens the middle classes , privatization of prisons and police forces to protect the rich and destroy the lives and family’s of the poor – particularly of minority’s.

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    • Another brilliant piece from WildKapito. Thanks — I agree with it all and these elitist greedy families need to be exposed at every turn. They are behind so much evil and criminal bank activities and I only hope that some of their adult children are waking up and will be part of turning things around and exposing their parents and uncles and grand parents and telling the truths hidden.

      How much land and homes have the Rothschilds bought around Banks Peninsula and other parts of NZ ?
      It would surprise us to see a list of all the companies and businesses they have started or own in NZ.

      I am a bit surprised that you did not mention the U.N. and their ongoing part played in this ugly history and laying the groundwork for the NWO.

        • He was probably trying to find out what other nutty ideas they believe? Given enough study of history its possible to find many reasons for conflict but they mostly depend on selfishness & power. It would be nice if there was only 1 cause of conflict in all situations but often there are degrees of responsibility from multiple sides.

  16. Godley Head , Canterbury should have a name change. Alexander Godley, ( he does not deserve to be addressed by rank ) that incompetent uncaring leader of our ANZAC troops at Gallipoli was after his poor performance there allowed to command a corps at the Western Front. What a pity one of our boys didn’t shoot him when they had half a chance in France. He did for too many of our ANZACs, a man whose name should be buried and not associated with this country any longer.

  17. Heavens, the level of ignorance/prejudice/Anglophobia on this site about WW1 is astounding. Also, Kiwis seem to revel in the idea that it was Britain’s overwhelming desire to fight and win an imperial war, rather deflecting from NZ’s own enthusiastic co-operation and participation (even paying for the battle-cruiser HMS New Zealand). Britain was not keen to join the war and tried in those days leading up to declaration of war to avoid it – the trip-wire of Belgium’s neutrality being compromised being the trigger. Before the war, notwithstanding the naval rivalry with Germany, there was a great deal of friendship with Germany and Germany itself did not see Britain as an enemy even to those last days of peace.

    As for all the cobblers about Britain (and France) wanting to annex Turkey for imperial reasons I won’t even deign to reply.

    Cheers,

    GrahamB

  18. The young, the poor the powerless lose all wars, hot, cold, on drugs, on terror, economic….The challenge is to give them the weapons to have a fighting chance of winning the peace – (/14or not losing by quite so much)..

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