Order of John Key events on hidden trusts and why National Voters are the problem

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The mainstream media are busily spinning for Key and slagging Little tabling his tax returns as a political stunt.

Let’s not listen to the mainstream media, they are compromised…

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…Bert, a TDB reader noted the list of excuses Key has used since the Panama Papers broke…

1. No we disagree and won’t be looking into it.
2. Maybe look into it, not sure.
3. I have no money in hidden trusts
4. Definitely no intention to look into it.
5. I’ll have an inquiry set up with an international expert.
6. I’ll have an inquiry set up with a hand selected tax expert.
7. I have got money in a hidden trust but it’s my lawyers fault.

…Key has lied throughout this entire process. He had a hand in creating the law changes in 2011, was warned 7 times he was building a tax haven, appointed a person who builds tax havens to whitewash our tax haven, has said he doesn’t use these tax havens, gets caught out using these tax havens.

Mass surveillance lies, dirty politics and secret tax havens – at some point National voters have to admit our Prime Minister is corrupt, unfortunately those voters can’t admit Key is a crook because they’re too personally invested in his brand of vacant aspiration & need his property bubble.

John Key could punch an infant in the face live on TV and National voters would blame the mother

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28 COMMENTS

  1. As I said in another comment on The Standard, John Key fits the profile for a business psychopath. The longer he stays in power the more damage he does. The really scary part is he seems to be a magnet for other people who lack compassion and empathy.

    • He has arguably a bunch of brainwashed Ministers doing the dirty work for him. None are really strong or principled enough to stand on their own feet and say “I won’t go along with this – it’s wrong and this is why”.

      And he has a black ops – more like a very dirty shade of grey – grunt in Cameron Slater to do assassination and sabotage work. I think its only because it would infringe on his human right to freedom of speech that people have desisted seeking a court order to shut Cameron down.

      But there is no such thing as impenetrable armour, and eventually something will get under, through or around Key’s armour. Could the Panama Papers be that thing?

      https://willnewzealandberight.com/2016/04/13/will-the-panama-papers-be-the-mud-that-sticks-to-john-key/

  2. the psychology of “Key Love” involves the PM being the nation’s classic enabler–all sorts of dodgy behaviour is ok because FJK says so–e.g. “its alright to buy up state houses to rent and get tax free capital gains on”;

    to even pause to question Key would be to question oneself, long time dark tory voters and newer aspirational Key supporters are together in a massive denial exercise that is shitting on the rest of us

    it has obviously gone on way to far for too long, all the things that The Daily Blog has drawn attention to, while Nat voters sit on a swag of middle class welfare Labour policy–WFF and paid parental leave etc.

    the Panama Papers fallout should be pursued all the way to hopefully the point where mass denial must finally be faced

  3. +100…your journalism is always spot on….a pity msm television can not follow your example with hard hitting truth telling…and newspapers and radio

  4. Andrew Little got one over National yesterday by tabling his previous tax returns and challenging John Key to do the same.
    When it came to Mr Speaker asking the house if there was any objection to Mr Little being granted leave to table the documents there was a long and awkward pause, as if Mr Carter was desperately hoping someone would object.
    But no one did so Mr Carter had to allow the documents to be tabled.
    National was caught between a rock and a hard place. If they objected it would have looked like they had a problem with honesty and openness (no-one wants to be seen on the side of crooks and tax evaders). When they didn’t object it put the pressure on John Key to do the same (which he clearly doesn’t want to do) and his refusal makes him appear even more dodgy and evasive. (What have you got to hide Mr Key?).
    Despite the best efforts of the John Key infotainment bootlicking brigade, serious questions about John Key’s role in covering up our country’s status as a tax haven are starting to be heard in business media, where criticism of National doesn’t often happen.
    The cracks are appearing in the façade; a few more and the ugly truth behind it will be revealed – if the sleepy hobbits allow themselves to see it.

    • And when Key was questioned by Winston on the background of the tax expert, Key’s response was to insult Winston. Winston using the tax expert in reference to him being involved in the Wine box inquiry.
      Key’s little muppet in David Seymour, then brought the house down to schoolboy level by asking “what century was the Winebox inquiry”?
      If we are going to have parliament, it should be a professional environment. Seymour is way out of his depth to be labelled professional.

  5. I am confused. We have a right wing website claiming that the media are smearing John Key and you are claiming the media are slagging Andrew Little. Which version am I to believe? Oh, and I am not a National supporter just a ‘mindless’ Labour supporter who tries to make sense of all the conflicting opinions.

    [Beatty/Ben, you seem to alternate between two pseudonyms, and claim to be a “Labour supporter”, while posting right-wing, anti-Labour comments. Be careful, as I won’t tolerate this kind of disingenuous behaviour. – ScarletMod]

    • And remember Beatty when Key started his 3rd term, his first statement was “we must not become arrogant”
      If that is not a conflicting statement by Key, well, I don’t know what is!

      • Key doesnt write anything he give speeches about, thats why he cant remember anything the next day, and more likely he is in his cups.
        Key is now more like Humpty Dumpty, nothing much of substance.
        The irony of hte China trade trip the media are not reporting is that the 2008 deal allows China access to rights if other trade deals.
        All Key has to negotiate are Presidents Xi’s extradition treaty, and the Panda’s something MSM didnt mention.
        Mentioning Pres Xi’s extradition treaty, what does anyone think that his lunch time meeting with Chinese businessmen was really about the flag, flogging a deadhorse. A hundred thousand dollars was passed over, you can bet that went straight to te National party donation box. Bring on the Panda parade.

  6. Martin, Barry Sopers herald piece this morning stated that “Andrew Little reminded me that he babysat my daughter”. You state that “John Key could punch an infant in the face live on TV and National voters would blame the mother”.
    Maybe Soper needs to read your piece to see the real difference between Little and Key.

  7. Wait, wait, your’re telling me our bestest Prime Minister of all time might be a corrupt former bankster with offshore trust accounts and has been playing us for fools this whole time?

  8. Come on “honest” John, “show us the money.”

    If he can’t do this, then an element of suspicion is created. As such, his personal financial transactions, should be investigated by a neutral investigator, preferably appointed from an outside source. This should result in him being stood down until he is proven to have been upfront and is not guilty of any wrongdoing.

    However if there’s evidence he’s been evasive and economical with the truth to Parliament and the country regarding this issue, he must be subject to the penalties of the law, such as would apply to the rest of us, if we had not been totally honest about our incomes and taxes!

  9. I guess NatzKEY voters are keeping their “honest” John in power, because they are of the same greedy, cheating, lying mindset as him! He is feeding their lifestyle, while the rest of us can go and eat crumbs!

    • es Mary, strange that on Monday the website was busied out and jammed through overloading, was it the outgoing traffic from fleeing data carried inside the Wellington office of the company still offering “shell Trust” facilities to anyone and hiding their account details?????

      Shouldn’t the police be securing the data of this company so they can investigate the accounts????

      Of course no! because they obviously are told by the “boss” Donkey like they failed to do after the Nicky Hagar book was released they should have sealed the 9th floor Jason Ede & Office of the PM instead of leaving those offices to be lighted up all weekend we recall in a article by Martyn Bradbury when notified with pictures from a passer by who saw all the offices lit up like a candle oddly.

      We are witnessing tardy rotten smells that something doesn’t add up here on planet Key.

      Impeach the man Governor General now!.

  10. We have to be totally honest with ourselves here. Key himself, and his voters, are not the only problem. Since the neo-liberal kind of system was allowed to evolve and blossom in this land, that was since the mid to late 1980s, we have now an environment where it is most normal for the majority of people, certainly the younger and middle aged generations, to think and behave opportunistic and in a somewhat selfish way.

    They grew up with this, have been inundated by commercial advertising, been conditioned by the governments we had, who all have more or less stuck to the neoliberal dogma and ideology.

    You are supposed to be the master of your own destiny, and if you cannot make it, you get stigmatised and marginalised, and end up as supposed “no hopers” on benefits.

    With student loans having become normal, with individual employment contracts having become normal, with consumerism having become normal, with endless lone fighters and competitors for jobs and business out there having become normal, we have a society that is to some degree living under the law of the jungle.

    It is not unusual for even some ordinary wage or salary earner to have been enticed by her or his bank to invest in some forms of trusts or certain financial instruments, this was so before the GFC, and to a fair degree this is still the case after the GFC.

    So it is not necessarily only the rich, the better off, the middle class National voter, who may support Key and his ideas and policies, it goes even into the circles of who we call the “missing million” of voters.

    They are hard to get interested in politics and so, because the themselves tend to be individualists, tend to be somewhat selfish perhaps, certainly opportunistic, to take anything they can, to advance themselves and their personal investments, small or bigger.

    Before the GFC banks were very keen to get you interested in investment portfolios and so, this has lessened a bit, due to stricter rules and some apprehension by the public. But there are still many that do or would like to do what a guy like John Key and others of his ilk do and have done.

    If you can get rich one way or another, they may jump at it.

    And it is this mindset, that has corrupted society, that is the greater problem, it reaches further than just National and ACT party voters, it is a new social ill, an ill that was brought about with neoliberal ideology and practice.

    So do not expect a groundswell of anger to rise and change the polls, this is very hard to politically take advantage of.

    People need to be taught, informed and then enabled to learn again, that a society and economy can only function if we follow common rules and standards and tax laws. It applies also to employment and social security and health laws and systems.

    As we have it now, we are heading for the disaster that many have forewarned, the abyss, the collapse, and then we will have scenes like there have been in other places, where supermarkets and service stations will be raided and looted, as there may be no benefit, no income, no money from ATMs, so people will fight for their lives, to survive.

    It may need to come to that, for people to see the light again, to change their thinking. That is what I dread, as by now more people should have come to their senses, despite of the biased media and what else we have.

    But people have not come to their senses in large enough numbers.

    So at the moment we are preaching only to the converted, and that means we remain stuck in the minority opposition polling numbers territory. At least we can do more to rock the boat and rattle the cages, it must be done, so we continue to be noticed.

    • Come on Martyn National voters would only blame the mother if she was a beneficary. They would be far more likely to blame Andrew Little and the former Labour Government. You are correct though about them being too invested in Key now to admit he is corrupt. Some of that will be their reliance on the property bubble and the me, me, me Neo Liberal agenda that defines them but for some of them they can’t admit it because to do so would be to admit how badly they were fooled by this conman all along. They would rather continue to blindly cheer on their emperors new clothes than stand up and say he is naked.If they can shrug off a Prime Minister who bullies a woman at her place of work and whose default position on everything is to lie they will shrug off a Prime Minister who hides his wealth and dodges tax through the use of blind trusts. Bloody sad really

  11. 5 star comment!! Spot on Martyn, you have that so right, Key’s supporters are dragging us all down !!! Reading right wing shill trying to defend the indefensible has been horrifying to say the least, they are like amoral insane psychopaths, small mini Keys, and the only cure that I can see for this virulent sickness is to cut it out from the source…lets kick John key out, its the only way to stop the rot.

  12. some really good contributions in this post–did they have a “vote down-a-thon” at some Nats place though earlier on?

    “Mike in Auckland”–4:25 is on the button, all the “mini–Keys” and a neo lib drenched society are a significant part of the problem, as an old saying goes though–“we may not be able to defeat the bastards right now but we don’t have to join them”

  13. Whether you call him “Honest John” or the “Smiling Assassin”, nothing alters the fact that this man knew (practically) NOTHING except how to “manipulate” the almighty Dollar around to feather his own nest; and he’s done it well!
    The sad part is that it is at the “people of New Zealand’s” expense!
    Notice the people who are part of this “Panapa papers” corruption!
    Heads of Countries that we have (virtually) nothing to do with…. yet, they ALL KNOW where the “Haven” is.
    The Prime Minister and his “cronies” should have ALL their accounts & assets FROZEN IMMEDIATELY until this whole “criminal act” is sorted!
    And the people deserve to SEE the REAL John Keys for who he really is!

  14. From the 1920s on, Edward Bernays (nephew of Freud) taught the world of commerce and politics to lie in such a way that the recipient of the lie believed that adopting bad behaviour was beneficial, commencing with persuading women that cigarette smoking was excellent because cigarettes were ‘torches of freedom’.

    We now see the consequences of decades of brainwashing via the commercial media and the political establishment: a society founded on and maintained by lies rather than truth.

    In recent times NZ society has moved on from “Greed is good” to “Greed is good, and corruption and lies are good.” It’s the next deal that counts, and screw everyone else; who cares about the long-term consequences or the common good?

    Orwell and Huxley wrote about it all decades ago. Put their ideas together and you have ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery, war is peace in a dumbed-down society of alphas, betas, gammas, deltas and epsilons…….and only a ‘deviant’ or a ‘savage’ would contemplate challenging the system.

    Sadly, it seems that the current dystopia will continue until it consumes itself in an orgy of corruption, lies, and rorts or is brought to a standstill via energetic and environmental collapse.

    Actually, both ending are inevitable at this late stage in the game; it’s just a matter of which comes first.

    The world is now 60ppm above the ‘safe level of 350ppm and atmospheric CO2 is rising faster than ever:

    https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/co2_800k_zoom.png

    The criminal gang’s policies (yes, criminal gang does refer to the NZ government) are focused on more roads, more houses, more consumption, and preventing discussion of anything of significance.

    It’s bizarre beyond belief that people would continue to vote in favour of their own destruction.

    Such is the power of brainwashing via the ‘idiot box’ and political slogans. And Key and his criminal gang know it.

    • Next you’l be saying he doesnt like pulling girls ponytails.
      Key was sent to Ireland to set up products for Myrlle Lynch that were illegal in America, its in his autobiography by Roughan.
      Its a corruption of ethics, and moral empathy.

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