So, you want a flag change then?? Is that what you’re implying? So, you think the Queen’s just a greedy old broad and we’d be better off governing ourselves? Us? We can barely make a fist . We can hardly drive past each other without wanting to exterminate each other with Hell Fire and you think we’re ready to ‘ go it alone ‘ do you? We can barely toddle from the pub without stubbing our toes on our stupidity much less take up the call to independence. Do you know what would happen if we tried ‘ independence’ ? We’d get fucking eaten alive, like the infantile colonials we are. I’ve been to a few ‘ rallies’ of late and do you know what I saw? I saw a few souls trying to protest. Do you know what else I saw? Fuck all, is what I saw. But perhaps most telling of the fuck all that I saw was what I didn’t see. Opposition to why we were there. I was at the anti-GCSB rally and weirdly, I never saw any pro-GSCB people. I was at the anti-TPPA rally and I never saw any pro – TPPA people. Why? Because those who gave a fuck were there and those who didn’t give a fuck were not. It’s those who don’t give a fuck who are of the most interest to the manipulators and deal makers. It’s in those who don’t care that the real power lies. Real power for our masters rests with those who don’t care.
Why?
Jesus ! Please don’t tell me you don’t know why.
The reason is that people who don’t give a fuck will pose no resistance. Duh!
The flag change fiasco, and a costly fiasco at that, is a way of gauging our level of ‘I don’t give a fuck’ so as our future masters can make plans accordingly. If you, as a satirical cartoonist, want to take the piss? Then, I’d suggest you engage your thinky-thinky thing first and focus where you’re needed most.
I think the cartoon was trying to show the queen on balance is against the flag change.
CB, I think what Evans is implying is that any flag change is outweighed by the fact that the Queen is still our Head of State, and nothing will change until that is addressed.
That’s my take on it… it’s a very subtle message.
I thought it was more that she hasn’t stuck an oar in at all – makes the phony change crowd look even stupider (if that were possible) – and Liz look as if she enjoys the mandate of heaven.
This cartoon is completely ridiculous. We the people do not want the flag changed as the proposed new alternative is utter crap. It has nothing to do with the queen. Canada changed theirs with no interference from her majesty whatsoever. As queen of Canada she would have gone along entirely with what the people of that democracy would have wanted. To imply that her majesty is somehow involved in wanting to retain the exiting flag is entirely fatuous and goes to show how extremely ignorant a lot of us are on constitutional matters and how in fact the Commonwealth operates. It is to be remembered that most Commonwealth countries are in fact republics and her majesty wears her hat only as “Head of the Commonwealth”. Whilst we are in fact a “realm” within the Commonwealth to all intents and purposes we are a “crowned republic” quite capable of determining our own affairs and destiny in the same way as India or Nigeria.
I’ve been thinking that during the visit to the Queen she asked JK what could be done to keep the Union Jack flying in the Southern Hemisphere now that the Australians are going to change their flag.
If you can keep the old flag flying in NZ I promise you a knighthood.
JK said he had a great idea that would ensure that the old flag kept flying.
He would have the country vote , at huge expense, for the old flag by putting up a half-baked design as an option.
He would go on and on about the new flag until a solid majority had heard as much as they could tolerate.
He knew it would alienate him from the public but all he could hear in his head was “Arise Sir John”.
My interpretation of Malcolm’s cartoon here is, the weight of consensus is in favour of keeping the present flag, as indicated by the Queen (representing the NZ ensign) outweighing the alternative.
OOooh. I see. Subtleties are not my strong point. I say, kick them in the balls and see how they like that subtle approach.
A passive reaction from us to having our country and our existence taken away from us is just too subtle for me I’m afraid.
A depiction of QE 2 hacking off roger douglas’ head as jonky watches on in horror as he waits his turn is my kind of subtlety.
While I support the traditional approach to treason of hanging drawing and quartering, at the same time I think as a country we should do more to support endangered species like tigers. I am slightly influenced by Frank Stockton http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/LadyTige.shtml
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So, you want a flag change then?? Is that what you’re implying? So, you think the Queen’s just a greedy old broad and we’d be better off governing ourselves? Us? We can barely make a fist . We can hardly drive past each other without wanting to exterminate each other with Hell Fire and you think we’re ready to ‘ go it alone ‘ do you? We can barely toddle from the pub without stubbing our toes on our stupidity much less take up the call to independence. Do you know what would happen if we tried ‘ independence’ ? We’d get fucking eaten alive, like the infantile colonials we are. I’ve been to a few ‘ rallies’ of late and do you know what I saw? I saw a few souls trying to protest. Do you know what else I saw? Fuck all, is what I saw. But perhaps most telling of the fuck all that I saw was what I didn’t see. Opposition to why we were there. I was at the anti-GCSB rally and weirdly, I never saw any pro-GSCB people. I was at the anti-TPPA rally and I never saw any pro – TPPA people. Why? Because those who gave a fuck were there and those who didn’t give a fuck were not. It’s those who don’t give a fuck who are of the most interest to the manipulators and deal makers. It’s in those who don’t care that the real power lies. Real power for our masters rests with those who don’t care.
Why?
Jesus ! Please don’t tell me you don’t know why.
The reason is that people who don’t give a fuck will pose no resistance. Duh!
The flag change fiasco, and a costly fiasco at that, is a way of gauging our level of ‘I don’t give a fuck’ so as our future masters can make plans accordingly. If you, as a satirical cartoonist, want to take the piss? Then, I’d suggest you engage your thinky-thinky thing first and focus where you’re needed most.
I think the cartoon was trying to show the queen on balance is against the flag change.
CB, I think what Evans is implying is that any flag change is outweighed by the fact that the Queen is still our Head of State, and nothing will change until that is addressed.
That’s my take on it… it’s a very subtle message.
I thought it was more that she hasn’t stuck an oar in at all – makes the phony change crowd look even stupider (if that were possible) – and Liz look as if she enjoys the mandate of heaven.
This cartoon is completely ridiculous. We the people do not want the flag changed as the proposed new alternative is utter crap. It has nothing to do with the queen. Canada changed theirs with no interference from her majesty whatsoever. As queen of Canada she would have gone along entirely with what the people of that democracy would have wanted. To imply that her majesty is somehow involved in wanting to retain the exiting flag is entirely fatuous and goes to show how extremely ignorant a lot of us are on constitutional matters and how in fact the Commonwealth operates. It is to be remembered that most Commonwealth countries are in fact republics and her majesty wears her hat only as “Head of the Commonwealth”. Whilst we are in fact a “realm” within the Commonwealth to all intents and purposes we are a “crowned republic” quite capable of determining our own affairs and destiny in the same way as India or Nigeria.
I’ve been thinking that during the visit to the Queen she asked JK what could be done to keep the Union Jack flying in the Southern Hemisphere now that the Australians are going to change their flag.
If you can keep the old flag flying in NZ I promise you a knighthood.
JK said he had a great idea that would ensure that the old flag kept flying.
He would have the country vote , at huge expense, for the old flag by putting up a half-baked design as an option.
He would go on and on about the new flag until a solid majority had heard as much as they could tolerate.
He knew it would alienate him from the public but all he could hear in his head was “Arise Sir John”.
My interpretation of Malcolm’s cartoon here is, the weight of consensus is in favour of keeping the present flag, as indicated by the Queen (representing the NZ ensign) outweighing the alternative.
OOooh. I see. Subtleties are not my strong point. I say, kick them in the balls and see how they like that subtle approach.
A passive reaction from us to having our country and our existence taken away from us is just too subtle for me I’m afraid.
A depiction of QE 2 hacking off roger douglas’ head as jonky watches on in horror as he waits his turn is my kind of subtlety.
While I support the traditional approach to treason of hanging drawing and quartering, at the same time I think as a country we should do more to support endangered species like tigers. I am slightly influenced by Frank Stockton http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/LadyTige.shtml
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