… His lips are moving.
Ok, it’s an old, old joke.
But it seems to be a truism more and more each day, as his shonkey government flounders, that he is resorting to untruths in panic and desperation.
A recent example, as reported on Radio NZ on 10 September,
Key predicts new Labour leader will take party to left
[abridged]
“It’s very important to understand whose voting. It’s not New Zealand mums or dads that are voting. It’s actually the union movement and they will want payback time when he becomes the leader and that means a big move to the left. And ultimately I think that will have quite a negative impact on jobs and growth for the economy.”
Source: Radio NZ
As the RNZ report went on to state, “under the Labour party’s new rules, unions get only a fifth of vote“.
40% of the vote – nearly half – will be from New Zealand mums or dads that are voting (or those who are members of the Labour Party).
So once again, Dear Leader is caught out fibbing to the media and the public.
Which is interesting and ties in with a chat I was having at a Dunedin New World supermarket last night (11 Sept). Two young check-out operators noticed my “no asset sales” sticker on my satchel and we starting chatting about the Labour party leadership contest. For two young teenagers (17? 18?) they seemed remarkably well-versed in who the candidates were and their personal preferences. Then the subject got on to John Key.
The opinions of these two young women was simple; they did not trust him one bit. They also could not understand why he was so popular with the publics. One remarked that his “body language” alone showed he was being dishonest when speaking to the media. The other was put off by his “we-know-best” arrogance.
In my travels, I’m meeting more and more people who are disenchanted and disillusioned with our current truth-bending Prime Minister. People are not fools and eventually pick up on a politician’s propensity for spinning BS.
But here’s a question for Mr Key; when will he allow the rank and file membership to vote to choose the leader of the National Party?
Because under current National Party rules, “mums and dads” have no say on the matter.
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It’s stunning that Key gets away scot free with these kinds of claims. Every single, major decision this government has made, that I can think of, has been for the benefit of wealthy, vested interests. This ‘mums and dads’ B.S needs to be shown in the media for what it is.
Its flabbergasting how how political journalists don’t pick up on this sort of spin.
Guyon Espinar, Duncan Garner & especially Patrick Gower – you all suck *Big time* Usless pricks!
He gets away with it because most MSM reporters dont challenge his statements. If a reporter would just say “But Mr Key, the rules state mums & dads get 40% of the vote & most union members are mums & dads themselves’ then we might get to say Key flap about like a fish in the bottom of a boat….
Until the average media good is actually up to the play enough to challenge this BS, Key will get away with smile & wave…
“He gets away with it because most MSM reporters don’t challenge his statements.” Sycophantic radio media such as The Farming Show and Mike Hosking have been deep and far reaching in carefully culturing a persona for Key.
The embedded attitudes will take more than the frittering away at the edges shown by the check-out workers unfortunately, but at least it’s a start.
Politics is a topic checkout staff are generally advised to avoid with customers as I know from personal experience. Fair enough really, its a topic that can easily anger people and that’s not something you want to do to customers…however. If you want to disseminate an idea, checkout operators talking about it is a pretty good place to start. They talk to a LOT of people in a day, from all walks of life.
And that would be because they’re part of the “vested interests”.
He does Draco T. It’s depressing I know. But then occasionally you get a choffa – or some1 such as he (or she).
Pass all the security criteria – why they even used to be Evans Bay Police and ex-junke ‘Drug Rinners”
They lend a compessshnit ear when en as required, they deliver from a-b.
They even suffer the most ugliest. Sometimes they awaken – relaising if they had to kesh-up tomorrow, they’re nowhere near the 1%.
Christ I wish things would just hurry up sometimes.
The inevitable change in gubbamint – all of which brings on a new enterage and their cast of thousands who have long memories, and most of whom aren’t such pathological liars that they’ve already forgotten the last bit of Bullshit they’ve spun. They remember it all. Sometimes they even keep details.
I imagine (and hope) that this is the sort of thing DC referred to when he said he’s got JK’s number. (I’m very confident he has)
Just as well he ain’t the only one.
Thanks Frank. In my wider whanau and friends, I know of one person who likes John Key. She has no knowledge of National Party policies and has a rabid unfounded hatred of Helen Clarke. A lot of our local media reminds me of FOX news and they just suck up to John Key. I do think the public are seeing through this finally.
Most of my immediate family vote National and think Key can do no wrong.
Commiserations to you D T Bastard.
What is your strategy; do you take anti-nausea tablets when visiting them or avoid altogether?
I’d say “….you poor bastard..” but somehow that seems meaningless directed at you.
How can you tell John Key is lying? He is breathing……
So John Key is saying in his statement that if unions are stronger then wages will grow and this will be bad for the economy.
Which planet is John Key from when high wages DON’T equal a strong economy?
His greed and the greed of his puppet masters blind them to the well proven economic truth that when workers have good wages the economy is stronger because they are the economy.
Ruth Richardsons billionaires and millionaires are not the economy.
However, if they want easy wealth and jobs growth, just pay their workers well and it will trickle up in abundance.
Want proof of this watch the inside new zealand doco “Mind the Gap”
on tv3.co.nz
Shows the statistics very nicely.
You have to give Key some credit, he has after all fronted up on Radio NZ twice now.
only twice thats a joke,.
That’s right. Probably because his PR media mouthpiece Newstalk ZB wasn’t able to find a slot to fit him in on those two occasions!
Would you think it acceptable if large corporate donors had 20 percent of the vote weighted ib their favour to choose the next National party leader? Would you not expect political leaders on the left to point out the undue influence of business on National if they did use such a method?
That makes sense to me – follow the Labour Party model. 40% caucus, 40% membership, 20% large corporate donors… except that large corporate donors already exert huge and excessive influence over the National Party and Government. So yeah, maybe not so much. They have huge resources at their disposal to ensure decisions such as party leadership go their way anyway.
Allowing the wider party membership a say in the leadership is a good idea. I’d love to hear what John “Dunno” Key would have to say on the matter 😀
I’m betting that large corporations already have more that a 20% stake in who will be the National leader, but we are never informed of these esoteric negotiations.
Good Grief Gosman! Haven’t you got a job to go to?
I think this is Gooseman’s job.
considering that national party selection is even less democratic than labour thats a bit of an own goal gossamer
have you forgotten “no brash, no cash”?
oh – and then there was brash and banks being parachuted into act
face it – your heroes in the form of both act and national are pretty much told what to do by the same very, very small group of high level backers.
So whats your complaint again?
Yes. If the National party membership decided at conference that that was how they wanted to do it, why would I (or anyone else) object? I think making it obvious who National answers to would do them no favours but that would just be another bonus in my eyes…
I’m sure National supporters will be happy with the present process. Isn’t there some sort of divine intervention? Isn’t it a bit like the Dalai Lama and the manifestation or reincarnation of something or someone great? Hence the adulation and adoration.
(Well the infestation aspect is right and of course the DaLiar bit.)
You’re assumimg they don’t already? (But I put the figure much higher – 80%. With the remainder going to caucus.)
I love how he just assumes that “mums and dads” can’t be union members. He makes it seem like they are a different species. I think our dear leader knows his last days as leader are upon him. Watching him clasp at straws as a strong liberal movement, led by Unions, students, the down trodden, working families and the poor rise up to put a stop to his rampant, hard right regime.
as opposed to their 50%…….
John Key’s body language is the giveway. When he’s lying, which is most of the time, he gives a slight arrogant flick of his head, while his devious eyes are calculating, cold, cruel and distant. The head flick is ever so subtle, you have to look hard to see it, but it’s there. Bill English also does the same.
Instead of a smile, Key produces a smirk. At the same time the wave becomes a salute!
I’m sure a body language expert would have a field day studying him!
I think s/he (yourself) already has opened the field day well. I would love to re-examine his performance on Gone Fishing about 2-3 years ago. It was brilliant. Had Gtaham eating out of his hand, the fish too!
I contribute that if you watch Key’s recent diabolical one-word replies (yes) to Russel Norman’s parliamentary questions, you might discern that John wishes to reply “YES, and YES” (or “No and No”), presumably because it would satisfy him (in a perverse and puerile way). But he realises that he cannot properly give two answers to Mr Norman. This is the reason for his hesitation as he rises to deliver his famous (and forever shameful) sequence of one-word affirmative replies (which mocked Crown as well as State), I contend!
Don’t forget the lizard like hiss that escapes him when sitting down after answering a question he does not like.
You mention Russel Norman. Yes I have noticed the PM’s very rude short, curt responses of yes and no to Russel’s questions. Key ignorantly demonstrating his disrespect for other MPs and parliament in general!
Another point is this. Has anyone else realized Key will not go head to head with Norman in a debate, not even at election time? He’s gutless, because the Greens leader would tear him apart verbally, something which would severely dent the PM’s over inflated ego and as we all know, that would never do!
However apart from being economical with the truth, Key being the cowardly bully he is, will only face up to and challenge someone he considers weaker than himself, to boost his badly flawed character, giving him perceived superiority! His nasty, vindictive responses to David Shearer is evidence of this fact!
@ Mary_A…
Indeed!
Yes Mary I have noticed that too. But no one should underestimate Key. For example his performance in Dunedin yesterday. He is damned good at looking friendly and supportive even to the people he s in the process of shafting! Maybe he does have a genuine side split off from his mercenary banker persona. He just seems so convincing even to people who don’t believe him rationally. I’d hate to be married to him, I wonder if poor Bronagh can tell when he’s lying. By the look of her face in some recent photos I think maybe she has caught our consummate fibber out.
We’re such a twee country, always talking about “mums and dads”.
How can you tell John Key is lying?
Uh… His lips are moving?
…talking about “mums & dads”…?
well of course that’s his “sales talk”.
( He knows the mention of “mums & and dads” will strike a public chord.. just cheap marketing. Why he uses it a lot. And fake of course)
One night at Occupy I was told I by a somewhat inebriated young man that the goal of our protest was to “fuck my Dad up the arse”. Honest to god, those were his exact words. This is probably the sort of person who thinks that voting for a gang of banksters and asset thieves led by a sociopath like Key is a good way to look after their Mum and Dad. Bless their hearts for their good intentions, and open their eyes to how poorly they are supporting it with their actions!
How do tell if Key is lying?
Whenever he shows up.
Perhaps the question should be rephrased to – how do you tell when Key isn’t lying?
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