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  1. Drunck in charge of a country, was the remark of a former Green MP; lets see MPs go through the random test. Of course the unfortunate imigrants are being used to drive down wages and conditions of employment, its time for National to stop following the Trump policy of lying loud and long.

  2. Talking about ‘alternative facts’ and blaming immigration for our economic problems…sounds familiar.

    I’ll stick to my class analysis thanks – I’m a leftist.

    I’m not justifying our immigration policies. I’d be happy to see more immigrants come in under a different plan. I wouldn’t blame our housing crisis, poverty, low wages and inequality on immigration.

    Go read some Marx.

    “The Christchurch Rebuild, in particular, appears to have been carried out in large part upon the backs of unfairly treated foreign labour. A situation actively contributed to by, among other personages, the then-Philippines Ambassador to New Zealand – who scurrilously urged her countrymen not to join unions or otherwise involve them in workplace disputes.”

    I’d like to thank all the Filipino workers who have come to Chch and helped rebuild. I’ve gotten to know many of them personally and I’m sorry they get framed as a problem for Kiwis. I’m sorry they live in shitty overpriced Chch housing which is a result of our housing, social and economic policies for decades. And I’m sorry that half the left don’t support vulnerable foreign workers…please know many of us want better working conditions for you.

    Solidarity please.

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      1. It’s very right wing to want to dismantle programes for the poor such as accepting migrant refugees ect, in this respect i suppose i am right wing. But not if you believe that military aid should be ruthlessly crushed. The New Zealand government with help via 5is generates tens of millions of migrant/climate redugees both abroad and at home.

        With 50 million migrant refugees on UN and other aid agency books, there are no solutions but to cancel all milatary aid. Which wouldn’t go well for Israel, so will we still be wonderful people in any event, I think not.

        Those are fine things to say I guess, usually I would have discribed how a monkey finds bananas for pats on the head in my reply, but thats just to hide my own amazement at how far New Zealanders are willing to go to find the darkest most insignificant arguments to disagree with in order maintain privileged positions during times of moral crises.

        Can refugees fly like they can swim? Thats a question for the philosophers

      2. I agree they’re not the problem, but this post is suggesting Filipino immigrants are the problem because they’re not joining unions.

        “A situation actively contributed to by, among other personages, the then-Philippines Ambassador to New Zealand – who scurrilously urged her countrymen not to join unions or otherwise involve them in workplace disputes”

        Our problem of union membership and union power is the result of industrial policy. It’s not because immigrant workers don’t sign up to unions. Our problem is the ERA2000 and because the left in NZ still discard class politics.

  3. I was waiting for this nasty lot ( the tories to roll out the old drug bullshert) this is there latest excuse for the influx of immigrants the lies about bringing in only highly skilled worker is a load of bullshert when in fact they have been bringing in unskilled labour for years and this hurt Maori and PI who this government knows full well make up the bulk of the NZ working age population but the tories have cut our throats by bringing in cheap labour and interfered with the market when it suit them and the business people they serve. I see it here at my own job we have cleaners from South America and other countries many who don’t speak much English the lies and the deceit its time for a change .

  4. I notice English didn’t provide any facts or figures to back up his claims. Another round of beneficiary bashing, aye?

  5. As Donald Trump and his “success” have proved, the facts do no longer matter, perception is all that counts, so our government uses the same lies, misinformation, distractions and endless BS to maintain the public’s perception that people are lazy, useless and workshy, and thus linger on “too easily accessible” benefits.

    It does not matter that the truth is there are only very few jobseekers failing drug tests, the narrative is maintained relentlessly, that young Kiwis are “useless” and “on drugs”.

    As Martyn pointed out, and as I also commented on this topic under his post, the government and Bill English are experts at telling lies and misleading an increasingly dumbed down, ignorant and even indifferent public:

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/02/27/on-flushing-out-the-homeless-and-stoner-workers-necessitating-mass-immigration/

    So the same topic was touched on during breakfast tv, the am show and all this drivel crap on television this morning, and opinionated, self appointed commentators confirmed the BS bias, one woman, a media personality on Garner’s show saying, most young Kiwis she tried to employ were “useless” (the am show this morning, TV3).

    A CEO of an events company more or less supported her comment.

    The fact is, immigrant labour is cheap, I met a fair few students coming here, working for slave wages and jobs, they are all desperate to get PR and will even work under the minimum wage if needed to survive.

    With such “competition”, many young Kiwis say, stuff competing with that, working endless hours at too low pay that does not even pay the rent, I will try find a better paid job, continue study (on debt) or do anything else to somehow get by (stay with mum and dad, do a bit of crime or what else).

    The BS that so many fail drug tests is debunked by the fact that you will not get a benefit for a long time, if you fail, due to stand downs. So how can they get away with it, Mr Lying Woodhouse and Mr Lying PM English???

    They simply want to have handy excuses to justify mass immigration, which helps them present a “growing economy”, which does hardly grow at all on a per capita basis, with low productivity.

    It is like telling mums to have more babies, so the country has more workers and consumers, a recipe for a stuffed up and costly future where we all fight over the crumbs as limited resources.

  6. Low Achiever

    Our Darling PM entered parliament in 1990 and is still there. During that time he has achieved nothing of note. Unless you count generously funding Private Religious schools while starving normal schools, selling off important assets which belong to the common man, and ignoring Alcoholic and other vicious Addictive drugs which destroy unknown numbers of New Zealanders from all walks of life – including Politicians.

    The worst of these drugs with very a deep hold on the NZ population is Alcohol. But Brewers look after the likes of Bill English.

  7. A desperate attempt by English to divert attention away from our rising inequality, deteriorating waterways, land/business sell-out to foreign ownership, complete lack of preparation for climate change and the fact that global capitalism is in it’s death throes.

  8. This is top-quality evil. Not only does it shout another keg for the ongoing beneficiary-bashing party, it will give useful idiots another “reason” to maintain the War on (Some) Drugs. If drugs make people unemployable, you can’t stop arresting and imprisoning people for using them, despite the fact that having drug convictions keeps people out of paid work…

    The real solution to this fictional problem would be for the government to ban workplace drug testing as the violation of employee privacy that it is. Then kiwis couldn’t be blackballed from workplaces because they prefer to have a joint rather than a beer in their private time.

  9. The statistic for how many migrant workers fail drugs tests is not compared with the figure for how many local workers fail these tests.

    Why not?

    Without this figure the excuse given for employing migrants over New Zealand citizens has no validity.

    The question that must be asked is what attraction does a migrant workforce have for employers that a citizen workforce doesn’t?

    The answer is in the question. Not being citizens, migrant workers have lesser rights than citizens.

    An employer cannot kill or beat them, but he can deport them.

    They are not free workers, they are bonded workers on limited contracts, which on completion they are then compulsorily removed from the territory.

    1. Doctors going on strike is not a good sign.

      So we shipped our factories off shore. Imported workers to keep inflation down. Then mom and pop borrowed upto there eye balls and spent it on secound hand shelter rather than manufacturing stuff and creating a vibrant economy.

      Now Doctors are having trouble living in Auckalnd and if they have problems, what kind of problems do nurses or more importantly cleaners have. I haven’t asked any but it’s not a pretty sight. About the only manicured public area in Auckland is the Museum, the rest get covered over with sewage and chemicals and cheap but semi durable signs that say keep out public health risk ect.

      So now all that private sector debt is finally looking every one square in the face and buts are starting to clinch each time an auction fail to meet owners demands to cash them out more than they put in. Along comes low income housing and LVRs to the rescue?

      I think not, we where supposed to create service sector jobs but now Doctors are struggling to produce those servises that was meant to replace all the borrowing we have done to off shore manufacturing/speculate and now we’ve grinded out our own high skill and low skilled labour and heaps have attitude and blame each other. In fact we all deserve the misery that befalls a collapse of this nature.

      The only way forward is a UBI for every one that pays down an individuals debt 1st so to not continually benifit speculators and reward those that did not speculate.

  10. Tonight’s Checkpoint gave the actual figures on this issue, quoting MSD. They show Mr English is way, way out of line. He’s sounding somewhat Trumpesque on this …

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