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  1. The good ol’ days you Lefties hanker for did not work. There is plenty of evidence, should you care to look at it, that standards in academic achievement have cratered. But, Mr Bradbury, you carry on as though doing the same things over and over again are somehow going to fix those problems.

      1. Poor Wiremu, clearly struggled at school in reading, his comment therefore is nonsense.

    1. @Wiremu
      The bad old days where 50% failure was baked into the system that we are galloping back to certainly is not going to fix anything. A one size fits white agenda is not going to help.

    2. The good ol’ days when NZ had what was considered the best education system in the world?

  2. Thank you for acknowledging that some of us have not fallen into Zuckerberg’s traps, nor into any other kind of social media. We text and receive phone calls. We don’t care for influencers or the opinions of the world’s idiots.

    We don’t want UK/US/atlas centric education. We had that when I was growing up and to finally see some recognition of our NZ background coming out in children’s school readers was wonderful. Children still learn to read with local stories.
    Whatever is really holding them back needs to be discovered and dealt with. Nothing will improve, if that’s not done. However, sounds as if the plan is to gloss over specific learning difficulties.
    I wouldn’t not have thought Florida or anywhere in the US would be the place to find excellent educational models.

    For Stanford to admit they need to solve the real problems as to why children may not succeed at reading and school in general, is to admit that her govt. has failed to tackle the economic problems we actually face and has made them worse. She’ll waste a lot of time and money chasing rainbows, trying not to embarrass her ‘brilliant’ boss. She’s a complete waste of space and so is her programme. IT WILL FAIL.

  3. Perhaps what’s missing is asking the parents what they want to be taught to the children.

  4. I left school knowing how to read and write and speak but we (Maori) faced discrimination when it came to getting many jobs because Pakeha preferred to employ people who looked like themselves first regardless of whether they were NZers, we call it white privilege. I failed in our school certificate education system where we were forced to learn Shakespeare. However, I studied as a mature aged student, this was when I first learnt about the TOW among other things we were never taught at school in the 60s and 70s. Now it seems we are going backwards again.

  5. If we can get the same level of improvement in NZ education that the Gove reforms delivered for the UK NZ parents will be very happy.

  6. Actually, it is just another instance of the regime doubling down on colonialism in every possible sphere: education, health, foreign policy, trade and commerce… everything. Foreign powers now write New Zealand government policy, school curricula, text books and even statute law. Have we forgotten that New Zealanders were writing their own text books more than a century ago and that New Zealand formally asserted its right to determine its own foreign policy as far back as 1947? Are we going to accept that these elementary features of nationhood have been stripped away? Are we to allow the regime to proceed to its ultimate endgame of reducing New Zealand to such a state that it “has to be” absorbed into the Commonwealth of Australia?
    I think not, and the regime should think again.

  7. They are trying something new because the current system DOES NOT WORK. My kids are in school now. From teachers only being in class 60-70% of the time, students in my son’s year 9 english class being illiterate ( they needed my son to explain the error message they got on Roblox when they were supposed to be learning, and they only know most of their games by the visual icons) and children in my daughter’s year 7 class claiming math is a scam and parents being told NOT to assist their children in homework unless we have been to training courses because the school only teaches a specific way and any other type of instruction is wrong and will only confuse them I can confidently say that the current system is failing.

    They are already teaching 1 size fits all and it is very poor. I make no comment on the incoming system as I haven’t completed all the reading yet, but something has to change.

  8. Q Why…? A. Follow the money and look at how Paula Bennet has done!! There’s no higher values there – modern woman views performance at the top and recognition for oneself, as the pinnacle of ambition.

  9. If Maori history and the relationship between Maori and settlers had been included in our history teachings from day one we would be a far more enlightened society today.

    1. We’re not here to be enlightened, just here to feed the gaping maw of late stage capitalism.

  10. Yes, something will be changing Andrew2 it will be the fucken useless government that is destroying our country.

  11. Yes, something will be changing Andrew2 it will be the fucken useless government that is destroying our country.

  12. Today, on the Radio, the Minister saying its our problem not her!s, that kids come to first term primary,and can!t hold a book up the correct way, then going on to advise parents teach your children, look into their eyes, when speaking to them, eye contact is important.
    Is this a Prefect out off her depth, or the dance of a desperate Minister, to patronize, and hope for homage.

  13. Educating for the future. That’s the big challenge. We all know the the 20th C is behind us. What’s now needed in terms of basic skills, knowledge and skills for the workplace, whether these be professional or vocational? Indeed what will a future workplace look like? What does a national curriculum need to look like, at least at secondary level? And what is particular about an isolated country in the South Pacific – albeit distance is no longer the tyranny is used to be – now increasingly multicultural and where wealth disparity is greater than ever. Brave decisions are needed. Not necessarily a new assessment regime. Certainly not ideological tinkering. But also decisions that serve all young people – irrespective of their capabilities. In its broadest sense education as a public good. And crucially – as the link asks – who decides?
    https://theconversation.com/ncea-reform-how-will-schools-decide-who-takes-an-academic-or-vocational-path-262797

  14. I’m interested to see the assertion that NZ education outperforms Finland – that runs against most data I’ve seen. And, the only reason NZ can rank close to top Asian education performers is that we exclude our educationally or mentally challenged from the results – whereas they mainstream theirs.

    I like Shakespeare – he’s one of the best things English has to offer. Kurosawa thought so too.

    It is inevitable that Erica Stanford borrows others’ ideas about education, because, like her colleague Willis, she has nothing worthwhile of her own. None of which makes a silk purse out of the NCEA.

    1. Evidently Finland’s PISA results are not what they used to be 20 yrs ago (if this link is to be believed) – but is not doing so badly

      https://www.aqa.org.uk/aqi/finland-pisa-a-fall-from-grace-but-still-a-high-performer

      The reasons: with increased immigration a more diverse society than previously; comparatively less spending on education as student numbers grow,; a shift away from a former curriculum more aligned to PISA outcomes

      But still above the OECD average (proviso as above). And interestingly enough, when NZ is substituted for Finland in the PISA calculator, NZ “outperforms” Finland on reading

      https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/pisa-2022-results-volume-i-and-ii-country-notes_ed6fbcc5-en/finland_6991e849-en.html

      But its all stats. Some reference is to aggregate scores. Some reference the top 10% percentile; some reference to low performing students. Your coffee goes cold trying to get your head around it all.

      Anyway, its all gobbygook dressed up as science. PISA is an OECD measure. OECD is a neoliberal thinktank.

      The take home messages for me this morning is that curriculum reform in NZ and the shift away from NCEA seems to be a move towards a system that is more closely aligned to OECD objectives. These changes are no surprise given the government of the day. But it’ll all come at a cost – maybe it’ll improve NZ’s rankings in the future – just maybe- but who’ll be left behind. And who says that it’ll all transfer to economic wealth anyway. Historically we are not Finland, not Singapore, not Japan. The second message is reinforcement of AA’s original claim that ‘one size fits all’ in education never works. A lookalike system closely aligned to OECD objectives is a bad idea.

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