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  1. But is it really necessary to kill off the fund? If the economy wasn’t so weak, wouldn’t social programmes AND the sovereign wealth fund be quite affordable?

    When the Reaganomics “crazies” were running around shutting down hospitals and selling off public housing, they were also busy implementing unaffordable tax cuts.

    It was then claimed that the country deserved worse infrastructure than it had in the 1950s, because there “wasn’t enough money”.

    Once this was combined with their extremist ‘globalisation’ trade policy, which destroyed most of the advanced industries, the country entered a death spiral: low value-added production, low wages, and low investment.

    Rebuilding the economy so it is diversified and industrialised again is the foundation. The wealth can then be “transmitted” to the social programmes by reversing the tax cuts.

    1. “industrialised again”?

      Why would I set up production in New Zealand when China/India/Vietnam can do it for me cheaper? Unless it’s a bespoke or sensitive IP product you want to protect (Team NZ, Fisher & Paykel) I can’t see this happening without “protectionism” or “subsidy”.

      Maybe there are industries we do need onshore for National resilience (read: refinery, steel plant, aircraft maintenance) or to process raw products (Saw-mills, food processing), although again – it’s cheaper to ship offshore for processing. Whether this is a good thing depends on your POV I guess.

      1. Sometimes it pays to have your manufacturing onshore, if China invades Taiwan and we have 50-60% of manufacturing done in China, there will be a disruption to our supply channels I am sure of it 100%.

        We are very backward thinking as a Nation, the place has been f****d by the Neoliberals in the 1980’s, led by the Bankrupt Pig Farmer.

      2. @billid:
        This is the point: ending protectionism was not in the national interest — the economy became less advanced, less diversified, and living standards for working people collapsed. Wealth was sucked out of the economy, and sent abroad.

        It only makes sense if your sole concern is the narrow interests of transnational industrialists and financiers, who made a killing by sending all the production to sweatshops.

        That could not have happened without a decision by the politicians to completely rewrite trade policy. Now the country is a giant rust belt, with a pathetic economy of cows and tour buses.

        1. Straight to transnational industrialists and financiers. A lot to unpick there but I’ll just say – the 70’s want their production models back. Despite the memes, it isn’t going to happen.

          There are plenty of examples of globalisation lifting people out of poverty and hybrid models of production making contributions in both local and remote economies. Icebreaker is a small example. Would not have a global product, let alone provide a sales path for local wool sellers if it was kept and made in New Zealand.

          It’s like, when suggesting dairy farmers de-industrialise and change their production methods and them hearing “kill off dairy farming”. This weeks ‘The Working Group’ was a glaring example of one person saying one thing and the others arguing something completely different.

          The rational answer is in the middle somewhere.

          1. We were told that a Trump presidency could never happen. That nobody could ever get elected on a platform of bringing back manufacturing. That tarriffs would never come back. They were all wrong.

            The idea that protectionism means you cannot export anything is nonsense.

            There are barely any complex goods being exported today, because industrial production was deliberately destroyed. All that is left is low value-added exports: primary commodities.

            If you prevent foreign dumping using tariffs, the economy becomes more advanced again through industrialisation. You are developing the ability to produce complex goods for export: returning to high value-added production.

            The fact that the country can now only produce sweaters is the sign of a weak economy, and a country with no real political independence.

  2. Great piece Susan.

    There has of course always been enough money, it is how it is divvied up that is the problem as we all know.

    Governments successively shunt it on to the many charitable organisations that we have.

  3. This article leads readers to believe that a $2billion annual contribution to the New Zealand Superannuation Fund is somewhat excessive because of external factors such as floods and young people migrating overseas. The reality is that the contribution is necessary for the future of the people of this country, and separate issues such as floods can be mitigated by a revamp of the insurance industry, and people migrating overseas in droves is an issue which could mitigated by making slight changes to the tax system or by other means

  4. Thanks Michal,
    WE give $2 billion a year with zero scrutiny from our precious taxes to this fund but we cant find money to feed and house the worst off.
    WE could fix working for families, repay student debt that cripples our nurses and teachers, fix the roads and better support those caught in the floods for $2 billion. Why no discussion?

    1. and how much influence do Morrison & co the fund managers have in wellington. they wouldnt want the amount paid in to fall. how much do they benefit from managing the funds?

  5. Means-test Superannuation! It’s a no Brainer! Can someone please explain to the elderly that Superannuation is a benefit, paid by current tax payers? They all seem to think it’s a tax refund!! IT’S NOT A TAX REFUND. Christ on a bike, the amount of very wealthy boomers collecting other people’s tax via superannuation that I see everyday at my day job is FAARKING SHOCKING!!!! Legal criminals. URRRRG

  6. You say that the fund is hardly going to help pay for the baby boom blip retirement costs. I am assuming this is because the disbursements would come from income generated by the invested capital. However the capital in the fund most of which was contributed by the baby boomers in the last two decades could just be used to pay for the baby boom pensions. If the current plan as you say is not going help the baby boomers then the baby boomers have made a massive contribution to help future generations of retirees.

    As for the current $2billion contribution is it a rainy day savings scheme or a kind of sovereign wealth fund? If its the latter then may be it should be invested a billion a year into new wealth generating industries in this country.

    The extra $2billion that could be spent now on current social programs and education could easily be found from a special bank profits tax.

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