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  1. Imagine then if the police don’t interfere in any sort of violence what so ever, and even worse how would protest organisers justify there own lack of direction. How would protest organisers deal with the party like atmosphere. In any event police oppression fills in the gaps and failures of protestors own movements.

  2. Nice so see you again Christine rose,

    What happened to our once innocent peaceful land I grew up and left for my OE during the 1970′ through 1990’s taking my pride of being a kiwi with me everywhere I went be it Greece, Egypt or US/Canada or europe. .

    Now fairly embedded here in HB/Gisboorne all I see is the poor, homeless, and dispossessed all around me and I feel saddened that we have slipped so far down the the mantle of life today.

    It will take a strong leader with a deep conviction of nation building again to inspire us to make us one of the best places in the world to live as we were in the 1960’s.

  3. “It is a distraction from the NZ police’s true agenda and no one has clue what is really going on.”

    (I regret asking this but…….) ok, shona, tell us what’s really going on

    But if it involves Illuminati, Roschilds, UN, Soros, I swear I’m going to get those Lizardmen to take you away

  4. Legal gun owners should have nothing to fear ?

    Why are they feeling demonised, the NZ Police need to collect all the illegal weapons floating around the country and the semi-automatics which are only useful for killing people, who really needs an AR 15 with 70 rounds of ammunition to shoot a possum, they have usually disappeared after a couple of shots ?

  5. Time for a big tidy of illicit weapons in NZ, each weapon needs to be registered to a particular owner and property with regular audits conducted ?

    Also gun owners mental health needs to be regularly assessed ?

    1.5 million guns with 250,000 registered gun owners = 6 weapons per registered gun owner ?

    Who needs 6 guns, these figures are mind blowing ?

  6. So let’s play the guitar instead,when one day Indonesia, China or another nation may take too much of a liking to the territory called NZ Aotearoa, shall we?

    Indeed, some people live in some kind of fantasy land and world, where there is no perceived risk or threat.

    Hug the aggressor and invader, I guess.

    1. Do you really think the NZ army’s capabilities will save us from some Indonesian or Chinese invasion? That’s a fantasy land and world.

      1. On our own no, hence the need for allies with strong military capabilities, and we cannot expect to totally freeload off them, thus we need our own military. There are also other reasons to support military funding other than war, and the Defence Industry Forum cannot reasonably be categorised in the simplistic way you and the activists protesting it have done.

        I’m also not remotely convinced about the claims of police brutality, as the activist group in question has a history of deliberately provoking police to get a reaction for media attention, and making false claims in that regard.

        Diplomacy is of course the primary means by which we should negotiate conflict, but as the example of Neville Chamberlain shows, sometimes diplomacy fails, and a country has no choice but to fight.

  7. No sorry, this article makes no sense. Nations must have the ability to defend themselves, and to take reasonable and necessary actions to protect and defend their citizens. It is naive to believe that bad actors on the global stage, whether states or global terrorist groups, are going to disappear anytime soon. China and Russia are certainly not going to do so. Nor is whatever is left of, or replaces, al-Qaeda and ISIS.

    “Waging peace, not war. Cultural diplomacy. Using guitars not guns. Imagine that as a broader foreign policy strategy, and military tactic.”

    I would, but it may take some time to stop laughing first.

  8. This world is ruled by violence or the threat of it.

    State governments have killed and continue to kill more people than any organisation or entity.

    1. Yeah, so why add to it with white supremacist cowards who use an arsenal of semi-automatic weapons to mow down unarmed civilians?

      Removing these weapons lessens the violence you pointed toAngryl.

      1. Two different things Samwise.

        Removing semi autos from civilian hands make no change to state violence and as the white supremacist coward stated, he chose firearms for a reason and he has achieved what he wanted to in that respect.

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