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  1. We could tighten those numbers up a bit. Let’s say we wanted to maintain Aucklands average income at around 80k. Each job would have to earn 200k, the employee doesn’t receive the whole 200k, that’s about how much each employee has to produce to earn 80k.

    If you look at farming each job earns about 250k, just above what we need to maintain average incomes. But tourism? That earns 60k per job, well below what we need to maintain average incomes. Tourism is good for employee low skilled workers, but it ain’t a road to prosperity.

    With out dairy and an over emphases on tourism, New Zealand will be a poor country. We have to look to manufacturing to maintain average incomes.

  2. if DOC sent staff to all carparks along Milford Rd and fined each tourist who feeds keas it would raise a lot of money.

  3. if DOC sent staff to all carparks along Milford Rd and fined each tourist who feeds keas it would raise a lot of money.

  4. People fly from overseas, get into campervans and drive all the way around NZ, they come in huge cruise ships, then huge buses grunting thier way down the Otago peninsula road right past where I live. They come in droves like drones to look at a few Yellow Eyed penguins clinging on the edge of existence.
    Then they are off to see a few albatrosses nesting at the Heads behind prison fences. While I look at the sick looking barren land devoid of the fantastic native bush which once grew here. A few pathetic looking sheep now dispersed over what was bird filled forest. LIFE/ for DEATH.
    It is just sad, very very sad, all these forests all these birds gone or vanishing before my eyes.
    What are we leaving behind, CO2 is now at levels of another epoch, but they still come in huge machines to gork (through another machine) at the last few birds left.
    What a stupid, STUPID! species we are. Hence I am leaving this dying area as fast as I can, as far as I can see most of this country has been totally destroyed, slaughtered, scalped and climate change will thrash the remaining REAL LIFE left.
    The tourists are blind, like the rest of our culture. Even RNZ has a feature on endangered creatures of NZ, and it honestly freaks me out as they talk of how cute these animals are, like it is a big joke. That show puts a creeping chill up my spine, they are not getting how horrendously obscene extinction of any species is. The human race has the whole planet in a head lock, all life on earth is now a resource to plunder for a quick buck. Something to be proud of aye.
    It is going to end very, very badly. We have taken and not put back.

  5. Tourism -as generally defined- does not generate anything except pollution. Tourism is simply a form of ostentatious consumption, and provides a mechanism to transfer digital fiat wealth from one place to another whilst trashing the planet.

    The high CO2 emissions profile that tourism has is the prime cause of the Planetary Meltdown we are currently witnessing. It follows that tourism is a major contributor to the extinction of humans and most other species which is underway now.

    CO2 at 404ppm (and still rising) is the highest ever, and Arctic ice cover is the lowest ever as a consequence

    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

    with a distinct probability the Arctic will become ice-free this year, thereby taking the Earth into new, unprecedented phase of climate chaos and overheating.

  6. +100 – Our governments are robbing Kiwis of their future – it is like killing the golden goose economically but also spiritually which seem to have zero value anymore in our imposed neoliberal ideology.

    1. Yes the world has become a huge ferris wheel ride with each stop being a ‘tourist attraction’ along with all the other hideous fair ground and night life trash which comes along with human entertainment.

    2. Steady on the Natzis have only got us in the hole for $120,000,000,000.00 to date from $10,000,000,000.00 when they took over 7 years ago, soon we will be able to market ourselves as the Greece of the South Pacific?

  7. Water quality aint good these days, whats happened to our inanga and our crystal clear rivers and streams. Waikato River is full of carp and they are already in certain areas of Lake Taupo.

  8. Tourism hasn’t worked for Greece and it’s a very popular destination….building super highways didn’t help either.Crikey, why does Key think it will work here?

    1. ‘why does Key think it will work here?’

      Probably because Key has shares in hotels, airlines, bus companies and oil companies.

  9. This is a good post, I must say, it raises valid questions and presents stuff to consider.

    All those supporting tourism as a growth industry should also consider that most people coming here come by airplane, and airplanes have so far a very bad record when it comes to air pollution and CO2 and other greenhouse gases, which are responsible for climate change.

    So people come here and leave a massive carbon foot print, to be honest, which is not what we should be encouraging.

    The there is the fact that economically tourism tends to create mostly low paid employment, and thus little gains for economies of scale, apart from earning foreign reserves.

    Look at the countries all over the globe that depend on tourism, they are hardly the successful and wealthy countries that there are. In Europe Greece depends a lot on tourism, and see how their economy has performed.

    And many tourists here will leave more of a carbon foot print by driving rental cars and camper vans, they will leave more rubbish behind and as tourism is a business sector activity, all the branding will in the end just be that, an image for those overseas, that is far from the reality behind the image.

    Maori perform welcomes and the Haka for tourists, but apart from that only live their culture at special events and on Waitangi Day. It shows that a culture has largely been lost, as most live westernised lives, but tourists are sold the impression, our native population still live like they did when Captain Cook arrived.

    All this makes a mockery of our country, and our bit of culture we have, and more if this may be lost, the more we change the infrastructure and environment to accommodate millions of short term visitors, by building more hotels, backpacker hostels, roads, bungi jumping facilities, by having more rafting on rivers, by compromising left over native forests and so.

    Very careful management is needed, not only in trying to prevent visitors bringing in pests that may destroy the environment and even perhaps harm our agricultural sector. Perhaps we should also encourage more visitors to come by ship, rather than airplanes.

    To have a sound economy we should rather focus on more important sectors that can be developed, also by creating value added products and services.

  10. “It means educating the public about the sensitivity of ecosystems and their inhabitants, not just clipping the ticket and taking profit from admission fees. If we don’t collectively manage all these visitors, in ten or twenty years, the values and qualities we’re all here to see, will be so diminished that travellers will go elsewhere to find the authentic ,‘pure’ natural experiences we were once known for.”

    Sadly the bulk of modern day urban New Zealanders, and the ever growing migrant communities, have little understanding and appreciation of the sensitivities of our natural environment. Indeed most seem to treat it as a commodity, and that applies more so to tourists.

    With a media that does not inform much about the environmental realities and challenges we have, we will not see this improve, I fear. It is all now business, more business and more dollars for those that make business, that determines what goes on in New Zealand.

    Look at Hawaii and Tahiti, and many other places, to see how tourism has destroyed the local environment and also culture of the people living there, all for money and more business.

    That is what New Zealand faces, as it seems to repeat the same madness.

  11. Why not allocate funds to DoC from the huge GST take from the tourism industry and also use the same source to assist local government in areas where tourism is strong, to allow them to cope with the infrastructure demand placed on them by the industry.

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