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  1. Should this film somehow still manage to go ahead, it shall prove to be not only a ‘farce’ but also a tragedy and a travesty into the bargain.

    Totally agree.
    Am really disappointed that Jacinda is being so softly softly about it.

      1. Snow White, would you prefer the PM waded in, boots-and-all, and gave this production even more free exposure than it is already getting?
        Sadly it would seem a lot of the commentators here want to use the proposed production for airing their political dislike of the PM/Goverment; surely this issue should be beyond political biases.

        1. What are you worried about, Peter?

          Do you think the film could serve as a Catalyst for a terrorist attack?

          I don’t think a film would do that. A tech company is more likely to.

  2. If only there was some sort of legislation enabling the censorship of incitement to hate the National Party or ACT Party …

    1. Dude, the borders are unlikely to go back to pre corona levels in Helen Clark’s live time. All the cheap imported labour is over, no secound class citizens. We are back to full employment theory. We need to protect the jobs we got not canceal them. Your just fighting yesterday’s war by persisting with pre corona tactics and strategies of canceal culture. PROTECT THE JOBS!

  3. This post should be a “MUST READ”.
    Too many people don’t yet get the ramifications.

  4. Yes it’s a political vehicle for the anti gun lobby in the US, truth be damned.

    Similar misinterpretation was deliberately done in NZ directly after the atrocity, where our firearms owners were compared with the NRA as a smear -we have a very different gun “culture” in NZ- and lies were told over gun crime statistics in order to trample any public pushback on rushed, bad law here.
    Now we have escalating gun crime and Rachel Stewart losing her guns over a rash tweet.

    Sensible gun control is laudable, no one will get it by lying.

    1. The NRA bogeyman in the States is just that: a diversion where legal gun owners are fallaciously portrayed as a serious problem, when, in reality, the “gun violence epidemic” consists of the vast majority of gun-related homicides being gangsta-on-gangsta killings with illegal firearms, perpetrated in places like Detroit, Baltimore and the South Side of Chicago. Legal gun owners in the South are not the problem.

  5. Thank you. Right from the start, the notion of utilising the Muslim tragedy to showcase the PM as nice guy on the global arena, has looked a shocking error of judgment. I do not expect the Muslim community to accept that awful Autumn day being featured like a Peter Jackson splatter movie for political or other purposes.

  6. Yay Hollywood! Let the yanks do their movie. If it helps their country, so be it. If not, no harm done. NZ might do their own movie after all. And at the end of the day, they are us, let’s enjoy their telling. Life imitating art imitating life. Be free everyone!

      1. Peter K My objection to this film has nothing whatsoever to do with politics or political bias. It has to do with the sort of people who we in New Zealand are.

        Respecting the raw grief of the Muslim community, many of whose lives have been permanently broken by those brutal murders, would have been a good place to start – and to stop. Cashing in on them with platitudes about bringing about change to another country’s gun culture, is more than insensitive, it is barbarous.

      2. Peter K My objection to this film has nothing whatsoever to do with politics or political bias. It has to do with the sort of people who we in New Zealand are.

        Respecting the raw grief of the Muslim community, many of whose lives have been permanently broken by those brutal murders, would have been a good place to start – and to stop. Cashing in on them with platitudes about bringing about change to another country’s gun culture, is more than insensitive, it is barbarous.

  7. The dilemma is that if you censor this as a load of inaccurate bullshit what are you going to do about ‘Braveheart’ , ‘Saving Private Ryan’ and just about anything you see on Netflix?
    I think people have to realise that the mainstream movie industry manufactures and sells fantasy because that is what the ‘public’ want( or the U.S. public which dwarfs the New Zealand one).
    If you want to see good stuff you have to go to niche producers like Sundance.
    Sam Goldwyn; ‘If I wanted to send a message I’d a made a telegraph company.’

    1. But Stevie this is New Zealand, and exploiting the Muslim tragedy inflicted upon all of us by a thoroughly bad little Australian runt, makes us look cheap and tacky. That’s because we are.

      Specious justifications – showcasing a nice caring PM – stopping Americans from shooting each other – won’t change the fact that using the Muslim community to make a quick buck, is pretty cheap and nasty. Politicians being lied about doesn’t matter, they’re whopping great liars themselves, but cashing in on tragedy is gutter.

  8. Don’t worry about it. The globalised system will collapse before this film gets made, commencing with America, which is now literally on fire as a consequence of the idiotic policies promoted and implemented over many decades.

    1. My God! AFKTT. Are you suggesting those climate-change-related wildfires are going to consume Hollywood? Tell me it isn’t so! The horror! The horror!

      1. I think the reference was actually to the “mostly peaceful” BLM and co. civil disturbances that persist across the country to this day. Certainly more of a concrete concern than the wholly invisible climate emergency that is so serious and pressing, that nobody can actually point to it.

  9. “The only story they are interested in telling is their own one, endlessly re-garbed as from somewhere else.”

    Isn’t that the truth.

  10. I’m not satisfied. I want to go back and insult the very history and origins as well as the philosophy of European Superiority. Changing the way pakeha live today is not enough. I want to change the way the entire planet view White Supremacy ever since they deleted they history of every indigenous culture of the planet.

    It’s not enough that the racist ideology that lives today is purely insulted. Having Te Puapua gives access to the investment community and now has to most importantly get to work.

    It is rural maori who believe that urban maori have been colonised and need to get back to work creating our own libraries in our own languages and dialects in a truly inclusive fashion. After defeating the Maori Cultures only true rival, Donald Brash, they believe they are the only true rival to govern a new Republic, a new Republic that does not answer to mother England but is answerable solely to the vote.

    Again He Puapua has been in motion for decades.

    There is no such thing as maori separatism and the pakeha academic leaders of the unemployed humanities professional created identity politics to confuse white supremacy only there is no such thing as a supreme being. Now they seek power over them when ironically they seek to drawn down power and wouldn’t be able to.

    He Puapua says (I’m paraphrasing here) there is no such thing as a moral code as humans are inherently evil as humans today have never seen a Nazi let alone one in action. Pure evil is something more than action. White Supremacists call for all of humanity to return to democracy as the White Supremacist believes that the plan of He Puapua could return from the shadows so they need to locate and silence every single person who wants Tino Rangatiratanga and to rewrite history to make people like me seem more deviant.

    In my opinion it is truly evil to rewrite a group of peoples history and make it appear as though one is more devious is to change there very philosophy and to make it appear as though as though I am not truly, evil.

  11. My God! AFKTT. Are you suggesting those climate-change-related wildfires are going to consume Hollywood? Tell me it isn’t so! The horror! The horror!

  12. NZ actors or crew or producers should not touch this fatberg of a project with a forty foot proverbial.

    All power to any that take direct action of any peaceful form to send the message–NOT WANTED.

    In the fullness of time many horrors from WWII to Rwanda to Chernobyl were dramatised (and yes some wanker on TDB pointed out that WWII movies appeared quickly after the event) but so what? it was analogue times. If this stinker does get launched, no one is obliged to pay to see it, or see it at all.

  13. It could be said that Jacinda Ardern is the master of politics as a performing art, and that “They are us” is Hollywood’s remake of the original New Zealand production. None of it should be confused with the truth.

    1. “ Master ” of performing arts politics ? Master ? No. Jacinda=woman= mistress. This is gender appropriation, sexist condescension, and grammatical error. If you can’t get the nouns correct, you could be in a spot of bother when the speech police inflict their pronouns upon us. Seeing these guardians of the undercut hair cockatoo strut can be scary – they’re not thinkers, they’re reactors, and dead serious.

  14. I think the reference was actually to the “mostly peaceful” BLM and co. civil disturbances that persist across the country to this day. Certainly more of a concrete concern than the wholly invisible climate emergency that is so serious and pressing, that nobody can actually point to it.

  15. Curwen this is an excellent summing as to how this horrific Ao/NZ event is seemingly being ‘doctored’ to be consumed by the USA market. That the USA has been forever accepting of such Hollywood misconstructions goes a long way to explaining some of their problems; and unfortunately, by our close association, ours also.

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