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  1. It’s hardly surprising that Labour joined with National on this. If anything, the class traitor here was Muldoon- the business party has always wanted to bring in as many coolies as they can, completely devoid of rights if possible, but if they become citizens at the cost to the taxpayer, that’s almost as good.

    I have been glad to see many Pacific Island nations resisting this modern day blackbirding post the advent of COVID.

  2. As a xenophobic racist maori I give an emphatic no to that idea .
    Citizenship to this country is given away too cheaply leading to the degradation of quality of life .
    And in fact immigration in general is a class weapon benefiting the bankster class .
    So yes to a racist outlook that privileges Kiwis for the benefit of Kiwis .
    P.S I want to emphasize my Catholicism re foreigners fuck them all .

    1. Why bother with citizenship?PR will do!
      My understanding is PR is enough for all MSD benefits and includes Super.

  3. If a League of Nations mandate is your test for citizenship, then all of Lebanon and Syria are French as are the population of both Jordan and Israel British. There are more examples of such eg Namibia and South Africa.

    There is no racism involved

  4. From a social economics POV. My y family have worjed in Auskland hospitals and it is so noticeable how many different ethicities are needing translators. Also how many use the hospital for their family needs, and have their family here. A piece in this weekend’s news is an example.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/472530/nurse-who-stole-from-dead-patient-loses-appeal-against-deportation
    …The decision said Clavecilla arrived in New Zealand in 2012 on a visitor visa.
    By November 2012, he was employed as a nurse in New Zealand and was granted an essential skills visa.

    Three years later his sister relocated to New Zealand, settling with her husband and two daughters, the decision said. Two of his three sons joined him in New Zealand in 2017 after gaining resident visas.
    Prior to his sons arriving, he had also had a relationship with a New Zealand citizen. The pair, who are not together, have a four-year-old son who lives with the mother.

    He married his current wife, who was from the Philippines but lived in New Zealand, in 2018. She had a family residency visa approved in March 2020.
    But just two-weeks later, Clavecilla’s offending started…
    He was sentenced to six months’ community detention and 150 hours of community work on 19 counts of theft relating to the first victim’s credit card expenditure, and 13 relating to the second patient.

    He lodged the appeal against his deportation on humanitarian grounds.
    “He has completed counselling, as part of his sentence, and that gave him an outlet to express his feelings. He also sought budgeting advice.

    Part of being in NZ is the economics of life. It can’t be just whether it is nice for the person to be given a choice of what to do. This man has not had as many chaildren as an arab prince (perhaps 52) so we should be aw are of the. But if he wants to sty in NZ after finishing his sentence, he needs to have a vasectomy as part of his atonement which I believe that all law-breakers should have to domply with.

    Being outspoken on this, he has a bloody cheek expecting to get off this. He is working but besides getting a wage, I hope, he is not to be trusted with client patients. Once a thief then you have crossed a line of self-respect and restraint. He will likely fail in the future.
    It would mean that some other patient could not have an opration if he had a vasectomy which would need to be done quickly, and it seems best that he be deported. As for racism, it could be made a case against him for having come here and then robbing us instead of respecting us and our ways.

    And this is something that government has brought on us – so many poor people have been let in here from India and other places, if there was an influx of Samoans we would be on our knees. It is hard on our hospital services. We might have to do what the Aussies do to us and warn they will be cut off from social services. But in Oz they would likely get some employment, here they might send their teenage son as a security officer to help feed the family only to have him murdered on his first night. NZ land of opportunity. Never will improve if things continue, and may get worse. Mr Creosote Rules – Not Okay.

  5. Interesting Chris. Some of what happened at the time (and like you I lived it) was definitely racist especially in the rural heartlands but Muldoon primarily appealed to the economic concerns of Kiwi’s – the country cant afford this, there’s a recession coming, they’re taking our jobs.

    And I doubt it would be any different today. Imagine the law goes through and 22oK Samoans become NZers overnight there will be a huge backlash with 95% of it focused on one thing- We cant afford healthcare and pensions for the people we have currently, there is a recession coming, we will all be competing for jobs. And those are realistic and valid concerns as to race, if you say we need more people to take jobs here in NZ, I and many other people would love to see them being largely Samoan. They are a great community and a welcome addition to a society.

    The problem with the R word being ascribed to everything is – it doesnt look at intent. Are some things inherently racist such as a desire to look after ‘our national good’ – yes, it is racist but it is also practical and dare I say it, maybe even necessary. It is not the direct racism of ‘we dont like brown people’ but it is the indirect racism of deciding on a course of action which for the greater good (what the Nation can afford) disadvantages an entire group of people.

  6. Back to the old Welly tram. Eh! LOOK, A, Muldoon looker, lesser care, more corporate open, as, Muldoon, covered.

  7. The tusker in their ranks, those, sitting wright, who!~, male going to be sitting next, Whitehouse, or s, who else they got to challenge.

  8. The tusker in their ranks, those, sitting wright, who!~, male going to be sitting next, Whitehouse, or s, who else they got to challenge.

    1. Bro. I want to understand what you’re trying to say. Can you explain a bit more who is going “full blown socialist,” how and why? Thanks in advance.

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