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  1. When will Israelis attempt to retain the soul of their nation? It started in sorrow but with hope, but has deteriorated since. The previous grievous behaviour towards Jews in the world seems to have become internalised – is the toxicity overwhelming and permanent?

    1. It very much looks that way Greywarbler; the ‘allies’ solution to a humanitarian crisis that has turned into another seemingly unsolvable humanitarian crisis. So sad for the many on both sides who just want to get on with their lives in dignity and respect.

    2. Careful with language. The issue is Zionism, settler colonialism..not Judaism.
      The Israeli regime will continue its cruel agenda until the outside world applies pressure.

  2. Since derailing conversations and taking off on tangents has become de rigueur for defenders of the Zionist ethos on TDB, this comment has been lifted (and edited) from, ‘Boycott Israel, the apartheid state under new management’ and was on posted 11 August at 2:46, prior to removal of the original posting from the site overnight.

    Quote: “For every link you, aom, reason, Khaela and every other commenter here who would drive Jews back into the diaspora paste here I can find information elsewhere that would back an alternate viewpoint.” This is akin to a fellow troll’s recent derogatory accusation on another thread, of a person who, as were others of similar age, profoundly affected by immediate post-war photographs and narratives about the extermination camps and other indignities inflicted on the Jews, as being a ‘holocaust denier’. In reality, most of those listed or alluded to by the commenter to whom this is directed, are probably of a similar demographic. No doubt, all had the their commitment to universal human rights forged in the deaths of untold millions, especially inclusive the Jews who were the victims of the most egregious human rights abuses that could be imaginable.

    Doubtless, none those listed along with the nebulous ‘other commenters’, who no doubt include the various TDB contributors, would be other than supportive of the NZ Jewish community. This would apply in work, social settings and at play. A prejudicial bent seems to have engendered a very sick stereotype that sees protest against a political movement that demonstrates little respect for the human rights of others, as unacceptable.

    Who is driving anyone back into the diaspora as claimed? Not the accused! However, there is a good chance that eventually, Israel will drive many of its own population into the diaspora, just as surely as it is causing young Jews to assertively assert that they are not Israeli and do not support the political direction of the ‘Nation State of Jews”.

    Israel’s abuses of internationally recognised basic human rights of course are not restricted to just Palestinians, but other minority sects as well. This even runs to mixed marriages being unacceptable.

    Before anyone gets on to the ‘but what-abouts’ of other countries and the usual miasma of meaningless verbiage, forget it. Ignorance and misrepresentation of the views of others precludes you even going there. That is, unless you want to trumpet your own strenuous efforts to change the world and by promoting equal human rights for all, irrespective of race, colour, creed or religion.

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